Obamacare enforcement, does anyone actually believe this?

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posted on Oct, 2 2013 @ 10:59 PM
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Certainly not poor now, but we make just enough to pay all the NECESSARY bills (mortgage, internet, phone, television, electric bill, etc) that every American family should have, and have food on the table. Could I cut out the television, yeah but I have the basic channels not even any premium channels. Even if we got rid of the TV which is $60 per month it's not going to make up the $600 a month we will now have to pay for something we don't need.

What Obama wants me to do is sell the house I lived in for 10 years and buy a run down shack, just to afford his mandated healthcare. Or live without electricity. (It doesn't help that the electric company I have charges $400 a month for our home which is why they are nicknamed National Greed, and if I moved 10 miles away and had a different electric company such as NYSEG or Solvay Electric I would be paying about $90 a month for the same home in electric bills. But that's another story I suppose.)

Ahh, the American dream is now apparently to live healthy but not have much of a life at all. All part of the plan I suppose.




posted on Oct, 2 2013 @ 11:10 PM
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AlienScience
I don't like that it isn't single payer.

But I like it 100% better than what we had and it is a huge step forward in this nations healthcare industry.



And, let me guess that you will like it 100% bettter when it is single payer,
as was the goal all along according to Harry and his ilk.

The transition to socialism is not a given.

There are NO gaurantees in life...not even
for the hardcore socialists.



posted on Oct, 3 2013 @ 12:07 AM
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We don't qualify, for any government programs. My husband makes too much. We also take pride in the fact that we take care of ourselves. We live within our means and the solution that we have chosen is to continue to provide more on our own. We only use the healthcare system for the occasional chiropractor visit and emergencies. Otherwise we drink a lot of herbal teas and I collect, grow and preserve a good portion of our own food to help make up the difference. The last thing I will do is jump on a government program bandwagon. We do what we need as a family to stay as self sufficient as possible.

The point is that this has already affected many middle class families for the worse. We should not be forced to purchase ANYTHING that we don't need. We have chosen to carry the insurance for emergency purposes, but at this point, almost $ 10,000 would go a very long way to cover a broken leg.



posted on Oct, 3 2013 @ 04:47 AM
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This Obamacare pony will be ridden right into the police state they are creating with all the anti constitutional laws since Oklahoma City.....
If the American people cannot rise up against this tyrany
soon...the republic and their freedom, will be lost along with their now lost wealth.....
You are being debt ridden to make you compliant to the NWO.



posted on Oct, 3 2013 @ 10:41 AM
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And, just in case there was any doubt...



Need health insurance? The Obama administration has you covered. Simply dial (snipped) to reach the next available health-care provider.

Far from being a mistype, that’s the official number that Health and Human Services wants Americans to dial when seeking health care. Obamacare’s national call center really did list its number as ... helpfully spelling out President Barack Obama’s tendency to blatantly flip the bird in plain view.....

(the rest is snipped to follow t&c but it does spell it )

That’s (snipped). Sadly, the Obama administration failed to swap the useless 1 for a more functional 8 to complete the heartfelt message, perhaps in consolation to former White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel’s tragically shortened middle finger.
daily caller


And I double checked...yep.



Questions? Call us at 1-800-318-2596

www.healthcare.gov...



posted on Oct, 3 2013 @ 08:48 PM
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If people are stupid, they DO NOT NEED GOVERNED, they need EDUCATED!!!!


Quite obviously!!!

Maybe I should rephrase my statement. People need to be governed because they are unintelligent, and no matter how much "educated" they get...it doesn't change their intelligence.



posted on Oct, 3 2013 @ 08:50 PM
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burdman30ott6

AlienScience
Umm..yes...unfortunately it does. Because the majority of people are kind of stupid and they need to be governed.

This is the reason we have any laws at all...this one is no different.


...actually most of the US' original laws were designed to protect people trying to pass insulting, meddlesome, and assbrained laws down the road from recieving devestating bodily harm from the general population.


And maybe that worked in the beginning, but times change. It's easy to have few laws when the population is small and undeveloped, but with growth comes more laws.

This is a natural process, without it growth never happens.



posted on Oct, 3 2013 @ 08:59 PM
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burntheships

AlienScience
I don't like that it isn't single payer.

But I like it 100% better than what we had and it is a huge step forward in this nations healthcare industry.



And, let me guess that you will like it 100% bettter when it is single payer,
as was the goal all along according to Harry and his ilk.

The transition to socialism is not a given.

There are NO gaurantees in life...not even
for the hardcore socialists.


Yes, you are 100% correct. Single payer is the system I hope comes out of this in the end...and I do believe it was the plan all along.

You see, intelligent people see that Single Payer is the only option for developed countries. Most western countries have already moved to that system. But us Americans, collectively, are morons...so we have to go through an extremely painful process before we get to the solution because we have fear mongers and naïve people that fear change.



posted on Oct, 3 2013 @ 11:03 PM
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AlienScience

Yes, you are 100% correct. Single payer is the system I hope comes out of this in the end...and I do believe it was the plan all along.



Like I said, dont count your chickens before they hatch.



posted on Oct, 4 2013 @ 03:54 AM
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AlienScience
This is a natural process, without it growth never happens.


Cancer is also a natural process involving growth... The shutdown and (I hope) continued refusal to raise the debt ceiling will act as a scalpel, cutting out as much of this malignancy as possible before it metastasizes into the few remaining un-diseased portions of the country's fabric.



posted on Oct, 5 2013 @ 05:46 AM
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well..

the gov will take your passport.. if you can/will no pay your taxes.. I know this .. just like they do for you drivers license for being $2 behind in child support..



posted on Oct, 5 2013 @ 09:45 AM
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You're right...and that hadn't immediately occurred to me. Obama's administration did tie Passports and exit from this nation to tax payment earlier on, didn't they?

Ever get the feeling this whole set of actions in different areas has been a hell of a lot more coordinated than it's appeared at the time?



posted on Oct, 5 2013 @ 11:54 AM
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One can only imagine what the IRS will do to anyone that is not designated as "Democratic base"....my guess is that anyone who is not will be on the "A" list and the first to receive there socialist wrath.

They have already proven there ability to destroy anyone who is not part of the ...agenda.



posted on Oct, 5 2013 @ 06:52 PM
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I knew it and have stated as much in a previous post. If we are fortunate enough to be buying a house, they will attach liens to the property then our income. We will be driving illegally and they will add fines and interest to our taxes owed. We'll be broker than ever, homeless and owe our soul's to the IRS. We are ALL so screwed.





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