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you would think NATO would welcome this to study China's system.
For China, Turkey missile deal a victory even if it doesn't happen
By David Lague
HONG KONG | Wed Oct 2, 2013 8:11am EDT
(Reuters) - Turkey's $4 billion order for a Chinese missile defense system is a breakthrough for China in its bid to become a supplier of advanced weapons, even though opposition from Washington and NATO threatens to derail the deal.
The winning bid from the China Precision Machinery Import and Export Corp (CPMIEC) to deliver its FD-2000 air defense missile system in a joint production agreement with Turkey is the first time a Chinese supplier has won a major order for state-of-the-art equipment from a NATO member. U.S., Russian and Western European manufacturers were also in the fray.
The decision last week to award the contract to CPMIEC, a company that is under U.S. sanctions for dealings with Iran, North Korea and Syria, surprised global arms trade experts and senior NATO officials.
"It is quite significant I would say, if it materializes," said Oliver Brauner, a researcher on China's arms exports at the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI)."It would certainly be a landmark deal."
Turkey signaled on Monday that it could back away from its decision after Washington said it had "serious concerns" about the deal with a sanctioned company for a system that would not be compatible with NATO's other weapons and networks.
And, in a reminder that Ankara faces stiff opposition from its alliance partners in Europe, a NATO official in Brussels said it was important that equipment ordered by member countries is compatible.
what is your take ?
A key to joining NATO and to NATO being able to operate as a real alliance is that its equipment and systems are all compatable. If you look at all the old Warsaw Pact nations they had to either get rid of all that Russian equipment or bring it up to NATO standards. A cheaper Chinese system that may not be compatible with other NATO systems sets a bad presidence. I am suprised the Russians are not complaining considering that Turkey, Georgia and Azerbaijan have their little anti Russia grouping. Poor Russia not only does it keep losing ground to the West but, China as well.
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Turkey a member of NATO will buy a new "Advanced" Chinese missiles. Hmmmm, Wonders how long before someone in the West will have a new Chinese missile system to dissect?
that says it all, and for missiles www.thesundaytimes.co.uk... from the link
By Adrian Croft
BRUSSELS | Thu Oct 3, 2013 1:40am EDT
(Reuters) - Turkey has been trying for years to join the European Union, presenting itself as a growing economic and political power and a bridge to Asian and Middle Eastern markets.
But the next country to join the EU's existing 28 members is more likely to be one of six small Balkan countries, five of which still formed part of Yugoslavia when Turkey made its first membership bid.
Several powerful EU states are reluctant to open the door to a large, mainly Muslim country, even a member of the NATO Western military alliance, fearing a troublesome integration whereas small countries have a track record of smooth accession.
While the EU focuses its attention elsewhere, the Turkish government and public are increasingly despondent and have started to wonder whether it really needs Europe after all.
Furious US tries to stop Nato ally buying Chinese defence missiles
Michael Sheridan Published: 6 October 2013
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The maker of the FD-2000 missile defence system has sold equipment to IranThe maker of the FD-2000 missile defence system has sold equipment to Iran
THE United States is mounting a diplomatic offensive to block an order from Turkey for a £2.4bn Chinese missile defence system.
The Americans are outraged that their Nato ally has agreed to buy the armaments from a Chinese firm that faces US sanctions for supplying ballistic missile technology to Iran.
The sale would be a coup for China, which has recently overtaken Britain as the world’s fifth largest arms exporter.
There is particular anger because the United States, Germany and Holland have all sent Patriot missile batteries and crews to protect Turkey against any attack from Syria, Iran’s closest ally.
that should make NATO and the US happy ....not
Updating: 12:10, 04 October 2013 Friday
Turkey to take on Chinese missile system
Turkey to take on Chinese missile system
Turkey is set to take on a Chinese missile defense system after finalizing a controversial deal with the growing far-eastern powerhouse.
World Bulletin / News Desk
The Turkish government has announced that it is about to sign a deal with the Chinese weapons firm CPMIEC which will see Turkey take on a Chinese made F-2000 missile defense system, having preferred this offer over rival bids from US, Russian and European firms.
CPMIEC sanctioned by the US in February 2013 for dealing with states who have breached international nuclear weapons agreements. In a statement from the White House, the US said ‘We conveyed our serious concerns about the Turkish government's contract discussions with a US-sanctioned company for a missile defense system that will not be interoperable with defense systems or collective defense capabilities.’
Speaking to Turkey’s Star Newspaper, Turkey’s Defense Industry Undersecretary Murat Bayar said ‘we are not buying this for NATO, we are buying this for Turkey.’ He also went on to criticize NATO for double standards by ignoring the fact that fellow member Greece also bought a similar system from Russia.