reply to post by SadistNocturne
I hear ya about freedom and the need for it without Big Brother in our business and down our throats (Dr. Sammy now too, for that matter), still?
There is some real evil and criminal activity in what has generally existed as the Wild West of the Internet. Rules are necessary....
As a matter of fact, and when I think about it? A lot of people lately have quite literally been asking and wondering about life without Government at
various levels of anarchy would be like. I'd point to the overall Onion world. That's what it looks like. Some of the best ...along side things that
go into the real evil category. I kinda liked the idea of one place free, as well. Totally free. That has been interesting to explore too. It reeks of
what's infested it though, as the best way I could put it.
So, it doesn't necessarily bother me to see law enforcement finally in that world. I wouldn't invite them...but I won't complain about the occasional
beat cop, so to speak.
The real Wild West was romper room with Quakers by comparison. lol.....
First of all, let me thank you. For not attacking me and name calling. It's hard when you can see you're views are radically different than someone
else, especially behind the "anonymity" of the internet, to not go nuclear and go into assault mode. Thanks
So, do I approve of being able to hire hitmen readily? No. Do I think that within a matter of days to weeks, a new method of being able to hire
hitmen, if you truly desire to, will avail itself? Absolutely.
When it comes to drugs, I have a fairly libertarian view on them and their use. I realize that drugs first of all, represent a bigger issue than the
drug and it's use to begin with. Purchasing drugs means supporting everything from organized crime, to prostitution, to child labor and sexual abuse,
etc, etc, etc. Unfortunately, this is a problem that has existed almost since time immemorial. If we continue with a "war on drugs", I feel that the
only result is that all of these things will continue, as the only way to get these drugs will be through contacts that have dealings in this aspect
So, in a nutshell, yes, I believe the war on drugs is perpetuating an already bad and centuries long underworld drug trade. Make it illegal, people
will go to illegal means to get what they want, and the end result is almost always far worse. Prohibition perfectly underscored this issue. It can
not be swept away by puritanical beliefs administered by those that clearly know what is best for you and your loved ones. Sarcasm intended. As a
brief aside, are you aware of the fact that sexual acts (in New Jersey) mired in Masochism / SM / BDSM) are enough to have you placed into a
psychiatric ward, as if you as an adult submit to them, you are obviously unfit mentally? Not too far off topic, when it comes to personal liberties
and rights. It effects us all.
Whereas I feel that "natural" drugs are far safer than even alcohol, which in itself is a manmade drug (like cigarettes, and coffee) and don't
personally condone the use of harsher drugs like heroin or coc aine or oxycodone (or even that icky new Krokodil from Russia...christ, read up on
that sometime), I am of the opinion that if the person is only harming themselves, if that is what they actually desire, as an adult, they should be
allowed to do it. There are plenty of working and highly professionally functional (not to mention highly paid) people who are functioning heroin
addicts. It is how they've chosen to live their life. I personally feel that if it does not harm another person, who am I to say they cannot do it?
I realize we are taught to "just say no" (Thanks Nancy) and that "drugs" are bad, and that many folks simply won't agree with me. But, this is how I
feel. And I believe alot of other libertarian minded people would agree.
Now, do I think it should be handled any differently than alcohol when it comes to age restrictions and driving motor vehicles (or even on the job
issues, such as operating heavy machinery, working on an oil rig, etc). As long as they're quirks don't harm anyone else, and that is overseen by
society, then I believe it should be allowed.
Now, on to Silk Road. Unfortunately, more things than drugs are available here. Yes, you can also get hitmen here as well. This is overtly
negative. However, I believe (and know) that Silk Road offered more. It offered a manner of obtaining books banned by your country. It offered
religious materials where they were outlawed. I feel that these things cannot be overlooked as being positive. So therefore, I do not feel this can
be dismissed as simply being a "evil drug / den of violence". In all reality, it is a conduit to personal freedom and liberties, IMHO. Imperfect,
but given today's world, if imperfect is the best we can get, then I say we need to take it.
Decriminalize drugs. Allow FDA approved manufacturers to create and sell them, therefore creating a federally mandated and regulated product. Of
course, this would also involve quality control, so for instance "bad" batches of '___' should or the like should never hit the market, or even the
streets. Guess what, crime involved from the manufacture, distribution, and sale of drugs will go away. It may take awhile, but eventually the
legitimate market will overpower the criminal. I also see an early plume in usage occuring, say one two generations, max. But, after that, I
*firmly* believe that it will lose it's taboo aspect, people that are obviously self medicating will look to seek out more formal and better forms of
medication for their problems. It won't be the cool, anti-establishment thing to do for teenagers. It will simply lose much of it's appeal. Also,
let's not forget about taxation. For instance, marijuana is an incredibly hardy plant. It has been said that all you have to do is drop seeds
throughout a field, either provide water or be in an environment that gets appropriate rain fall, and you'll have a more than sufficient crop.
Therefore, the cost to bring it to market is relatively low. Keep the price low, but tax the heck out of it. Right now, am 1/8th of an ounce is
approx $80-100. It might only cost about $5-10 to bring it to market. Sell it taxed at a price of $60, and you've just made 500% profit.
With our current situation, much like the NSA spying on American civilians as well as spying on foreign nationals, this is obvious and intentional
scope creep. Unless I am mistaken, the law was clearly spelled out that the NSA was not supposed to be spying on American civilians. Yet they do. I
see this as being no different from the situation with the DEA and the FBI cracking down on and taking down Silk Road. "We have the power, and we
will use it. You aren't paying your taxes on these sales, so we are going to eliminate you." Whereas the FBI and DEA are not breaking the law by
doing what they are doing, they might as well be. They are breaking the law of our freedom and liberty, IMHO.
I lament the loss of Silk Road as an option. Not one that I currently would look to use, but having options is always better than not having
PS - for sake of argument and disclosure, I only drink occasionally, and do not purchase any illegal drugs for personal use.
edit on 4-10-2013
by SadistNocturne because: Forgot to make an additional point.