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We do??!! We will??!! News to me. For some strange reason you assume that we wring our hands hoping for failure so that we can feel vindicated. You are drawing conclusions without any kind of support of your claims. I'm actually a little insulted that you would even say this.
Originally posted by LostSailor
They hate the military and would love nother more than to see our noble actions in Iraq fail. That way they can laugh and mock their country even more.
Statements like this make no sense, write it again so I know what you are implying.
They have succombed to the liberal media and think of us as oppressors invading their peaceful ccountry.
Why do you feel the need to align those in disagreement with war with these people? You are losing credibility very quickly here...
They feel sorry for the Islamic Fundamentalists who we are trampling on.
umm, they're terrorists.
These Islamic fundamentalists don't follow the Geneva code.
.....and I don't blame him one little bit. If this account is true, right or wrong, I'd have done the same thing were I faced with the same situation.
When one of our soldiers discovers an Islamic Fundamentalist playing dead (after seeing so many of his fellow soldiers die from booby trapped dead terrorists and from terrorists playing dead) and shoots him.
*yawn*
The liberal media jumped all over it and they went along with the ride.
You are going to have to define "They" in this sentence. I certainly don't regard him as anything but a terrorist. The whole Israel/Palestine mess is more than I wish to debate, as I believe both are dreadfully guilty of horrible things, regardless of who is defending what.
They praise Arafat, the man who basically invented terrorism, as a hero. He practically invented the plane highjacking, and car bomb... But the media praised him as noble man who was just defending his country.
Originally posted by edsinger
I can understand your viewpoint some, I am doing some research on Radical Islam ($50 in books) so that I can more fully understand why we are in Iraq. I was for the war fro the get go, but you must understand that we are at war, and whether anyones admitts it, Saddam was part of that war.
Originally posted by edsinger
And to think this article came from the IVY LEAGUE?
It seems following this path of peace, pacifism, and idleness amounts to suicide, self-destruction and certain doom for America as a people and a nation.
Originally posted by LostSailor
Hey ed, have you heard about E. Gores new hate speech he gave the other night? Looks like the liberals are resorting to an all time low
Originally posted by Corinthas
Iraq under Saddam was one of the most western and secular states in the region! Ok now that Saddam has gone all the repressed Molsems are coming out from under their rocks.. but the resistance is just that, RESISTANCE TO AN OCCUPYING FORCE and therefore has PRIMARALY nothing to do with fundementalism allthough that dose have a small role somewhere.
Originally posted by LostSailor
Hey ed, have you heard about E. Gores new hate speech he gave the other night? Looks like the liberals are resorting to an all time low
Originally posted by Aelita
What is self-destruction and doom for America, to borrow your phrase, is continuing to be a proxy army to Israel, be subservient to Ariel Sharon and therefore produce policies in the Middle East that create million enemies by the hour. Physically eliminating the Muslim population doesn't seem possible, unless you, Edsinger, resort to construction of concentration camps, which I'm sure you are considering.
Originally posted by edsinger
They offered the Palestinians damn near everything and yet they said no.
Originally posted by beergoggles
I agree, however, I think the point was that they offered everything but what the Palestinians really wanted.
BG
Saddam alos funded some of these terrorists and gave them refuge. You seem to not care about that one. He also plotted against the Unites States in every way he could which is somewhat understandable as we held him accountable. This resistance is not just to US troops occupying Iraq, it is a chance for Islamic Fundementalism to attack America on its home turf. Remember Osama wants to show that America is weak and cannot take sustained casulties, which by the reactions of most on the board (he might be right). This war will not end in Iraq, nor Afghanistan. It will only win when it is either crushed or we meet Osama's (or his replacement) critera. read his declaration of war on the united states in 1998 and what his terms are.
This resistance is not just to US troops occupying Iraq, it is a chance for Islamic Fundementalism to attack America on its home turf.
He also plotted against the Unites States in every way he could
Originally posted by Jakomo
PROVE Saddam funded various terrorists. You keep parroting the same old stupid lies that have been disproven for months now, of which you're obviously totally oblivious.
Originally posted by Jakomo
Um, no. This resistance IS to the U.S. troops. Why would you say that the British suffer PHENOMENALLY less casualties than the United States military? Are all these "insurgents" also Islamiz fundamentalists? No, most of them ARE followers of Islam, yes, but they just want their country back and are willing to die for it.
Originally posted by Jakomo0.5% of the resistance is murdering scum, the rest are people with no other choice as they see it, imho.
Originally posted by JakomoI am a "peacenik". I think war is wrong, brutal, and mostly unnecessary. ESPECIALLY this one.
Your arguments are the same tired reruns, ed, you never seem to learn anything new, and your mind remains as closed and as empty as ever.
Well how exciting, if not accurate. "In every way he could"? What does that mean, exactly? Proof please.Have a good day.jako
Originally posted by edsinger
Well the Brits get less for 2 reasons, one they have 10 times LESS troops there, 2nd, they are in #e areas, not Sunni....except for a small unit recently.
[edit on 18-11-2004 by edsinger]
Originally posted by devilwasp
small unit??
850 is small?
compared to what? the 7th cav?
also way off base?
Originally posted by Amethyst
I'm not a hippie or a tree-hugger or a feminist. I'm not a liberal.
I'm a Constitutionalist and a Christian.
Having said that, I find it pretty hypocritical that we're forcing freedom (haha) on Iraq (and violating the Constitution to do so) and our freedoms are being taken away here at home.
What is wrong with this picture?
Originally posted by 00PS
EdSinger I am not a Peacenick nor a Pacifist. If you could label me as anything you would have to label me either an enemy or a true patriot. However you come to judge me by you will only have these 2 options.