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posted on Sep, 30 2013 @ 11:16 PM
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Hello everyone...

I just happen to notice this government shut down thing happening down there in the US... and I was just wondering

IF the government shuts down in the US... does the actual government people like the senate and all the politicians loose their jobs?

Or do they still get paid?

I mean that's the way it works isn't it?

A company or business shuts down, everyone loses their jobs?

Or does that not apply for the ruling class?

Forgive my naivety

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posted on Sep, 30 2013 @ 11:22 PM
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It's not an IF anymore by the look of it..
I'm just jumping in to learn something. I am clueless as to what this actually means for joe public and does this have knock on affect to the rest of the world?
Any worst case scenarios ?



posted on Sep, 30 2013 @ 11:23 PM
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The Senate and House will continue to "work" and get paid for it. I don't believe anything, including an act of God, would stop that e-deposit from being made.



posted on Sep, 30 2013 @ 11:23 PM
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Akragon
Hello everyone...

I just happen to notice this government shut down thing happening down there in the US... and I was just wondering

IF the government shuts down in the US... does the actual government people like the senate and all the politicians loose their jobs?

Or do they still get paid?

I mean that's the way it works isn't it?

A company or business shuts down, everyone loses their jobs?

Or does that not apply for the ruling class?

Forgive my naivety

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jUST GOING OUT A LIMB 'THEY' never give up anything just us poor people lose circle of evil!



posted on Sep, 30 2013 @ 11:26 PM
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Only non-essential services are shut down. That does not include Congress.

And those that are affected don't lose their jobs, they just get furloughed.



posted on Sep, 30 2013 @ 11:28 PM
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WmassCrooner
reply to post by Akragon
 


The Senate and House will continue to "work" and get paid for it. I don't believe anything, including an act of God, would stop that e-deposit from being made.


So now they're going to start working? Maybe they should pull their heads out of their asses so some oxygen can reach their brains.



posted on Sep, 30 2013 @ 11:32 PM
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what i wanna know is will public transportation be at all effected? like bus's, trains, and planes.



posted on Sep, 30 2013 @ 11:33 PM
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The popping sound might be mistaken for a gunshot. You might want to warn people before over 500 of them have to do it at once. It seems epidemic up there.



posted on Sep, 30 2013 @ 11:39 PM
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LOL!



posted on Sep, 30 2013 @ 11:42 PM
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The only thing that happens today is you get to experience some irony.

Google's homepage honors Yosemite national park today.. but guess what, you can't visit it now.. hahaha.

All national parks -- from Yosemite to Shenandoah National Park -- will close, and day visitors will have to leave immediately. (But longer-term campers already in parks will have two days to leave.)



posted on Sep, 30 2013 @ 11:43 PM
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no public transportation won`t be effected, those are either privately owned companies or state funded transit.



posted on Sep, 30 2013 @ 11:45 PM
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I'm am the most appalled by the arrogance of the liberals to try and scare the house into going along with their plans. Anyone who took high school govt. knows the exact reason why two branch's of Congress were created.
It was for this exact reason. The Senate is for state equality and the House is for the people, judged from population. Checks and balances. For them to say we need to just go along to not cause waves in our economy is repulsive! Read the Constitution and understand it. This is EXACTLY why there are two branch's of Congress.
Don't try to railroad Americans into you're philosophy with you're scare tactics of doom and gloom if we don't give in to you're every whim!



posted on Sep, 30 2013 @ 11:46 PM
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Yes, shut downnn...

All the ships in the oceans will stop and sink. All the planes will fall from the skies. The government elves will evaporate in a poof of pink dust and the whole of Washington will collapse in upon itself like being fed into a black hole.

The fairy god mother waves her wand and everybody will get to keep their entire paycheck.

Then all the munchkins will come out and sing...



posted on Sep, 30 2013 @ 11:48 PM
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I hope congress gets this ironed out soon we don`t want all those million dollar outhouses in the national parks to go unused for too long.
here`s just one example, of many, of a million dollar outhouse that is in such a remote location that they had to use helicopters to transport the building materials to the site because trucks couldn`t get there.
www.jldr.com...

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posted on Sep, 30 2013 @ 11:49 PM
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I'm am the most appalled by the arrogance of the liberals to try and scare the house into going along with their plans.


What exactly is their plan in your opinion?

From my point of view, the Democrats "plan" is to pass a Continuing Resolution that continues to fund the government so none of it's services have to shut down.

The Republicans plan is to attempt to use the government shutdown as leverage and a bargaining chip to try to once again remove existing funding from the ACA.

So the Democrats want to just do their job and pass a CR that continues to fund the government, and the Republicans won't do that unless they get their way about the already passed and funded ACA.

It just baffles me how people can really look at this and say the "liberals" are just trying to get their way.



posted on Sep, 30 2013 @ 11:55 PM
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I may be wrong but we wouldn`t need a continuing resolution if the democratically controlled senate would finally just pass a budget in the first place, isn`t that part of their job?
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posted on Oct, 1 2013 @ 12:10 AM
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In my opinion this is the only card that can be played to open the eyes of the American people. Is it the best, probably not. Yet, it is much better to do nothing as we have proved to be very capable of doing time and time again. I understand many might have a bad day because of this and we might look like fools to the rest of the world.

This is the battle we have today. We will chose better ones tomorrow. It is a start in what I hope many more to come! If no start, their is no end to the tyranny we have been dealt.



posted on Oct, 1 2013 @ 12:14 AM
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AlienScience
From my point of view, the Democrats "plan" is to pass a Continuing Resolution that continues to fund the government so none of it's services have to shut down.

The Republicans plan is to attempt to use the government shutdown as leverage and a bargaining chip to try to once again remove existing funding from the ACA.


But the Joint Resolution (H.J. 59) did fund everything but some how de-funded what you proclaim cannot be de-funded; so why not pass it? Also, can you point out in that resolution the language that attempts to change the Public Law that is known as PPACA?


It just baffles me how people can really look at this and say the "liberals" are just trying to get their way.


It baffles me too...just see above...

Post Script:
It does ask for a one year extension, but why is this such a big deal since the Executive has been granting those arbitrarily outside of their Constitutional authority?
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posted on Oct, 1 2013 @ 12:21 AM
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Tardacus
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I may be wrong but we wouldn`t need a continuing resolution if the democratically controlled senate would finally just pass a budget in the first place, isn`t that part of their job?
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It's part of both the House and the Senates job.

The House doesn't like the Senates version, the Senate doesn't like the House version. You can't pin that on just the Senate.



posted on Oct, 1 2013 @ 12:28 AM
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But the Joint Resolution (H.J. 59) did fund everything but some how de-funded what you proclaim cannot be de-funded; so why not pass it? Also, can you point out in that resolution the language that attempts to change the Public Law that is known as PPACA?


I didn't say it "can't be defunded", I said it doesn't have to be funded by budgets or CRs. There is a big difference between those two.

And here is the amendment that defunded the ACA.

www.gop.gov...


The Scalise Amendment incorporates the text of both H.R. 807, the Full, Faith and Credit Act and H.R. 2682, a bill to prohibit the funding of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.

The amendment prohibits the funding of any provision of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or title I and subtitle B of title II of the Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act of 2010. It repeals any benefit and/or entitlement included in each of the above mentioned Acts and rescinds any and all unobligated balances.






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