I think I know What Chemtrails are... and it's worse than you can imagine!

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posted on Sep, 30 2013 @ 10:29 AM
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Korg Trinity

network dude

Korg Trinity

mikell
You have to prove they exist first and no one has to the best of my knowledge. But have fun anyway


There can be no doubt that they do exist... all you have to do is look up.



But what if you see contrails?

Surely they exist, right?


Contrails do indeed exist... They dissipate and do not form cloud cover...

This may help you identify the difference.



Or this excellent thread...

Chemtrails Vs Contrails... There's a MASSIVE Difference!!! Check these out...

Peace,

Korg.


I realize that lots of folks really want to believe in chemtrails. I understand. I am not here to smash your beliefs, I will offer this Link to more knowledge should you decide to look into it. In this link, it explains how contrails can last for minutes, or even hours depending on the conditions. If you chose to ignore it, I understand. But please know, there is a whole bunch of peer reviewed science to back up my claim. Do you have any?




posted on Sep, 30 2013 @ 10:34 AM
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Perhaps you could post the transcript of the conversation. Because if you did, you might see the logic flaw in using this as proof of anything.

I just hope people actually watch it and listen to it instead of just accepting your interpretation of it.



posted on Sep, 30 2013 @ 10:47 AM
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It really is quite sad that this video could be offered up as "PROOF" Typical chemmie hogwash!



posted on Sep, 30 2013 @ 10:56 AM
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So of contrails dissipate immediately, and chemtrails don't, that means they've been spraying us since flight began. The first report of a contrail lingering and spreading was in 1915. This is a really long term plan then.



posted on Sep, 30 2013 @ 10:58 AM
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That guy must be a member on here ..He's mashing a bunch of CT together but in the end its selling the same message as the IPCC is trying to put out that its man made .Scaremongering ... I wonder who the they are he keeps referring to ? And I thought they shut HARP down ... This guy is a hoot ...He sure is using the standard lexicon in science . Oh the Bermuda Triangle now is releasing co2 also . I think these clips are made in preparation to convince the people like us that don't believe MSM ...He is not consistent with his personal life as well . ie. has been working in the woods most of his life ...I think this thread is a scam ...peace



posted on Sep, 30 2013 @ 11:06 AM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on Sep, 30 2013 @ 11:08 AM
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So a pilot that risk his life flying thru CHEMTRAILS and has no problem with it. Hummm. I know for a fact they don't exist because they would serve no purpose as few as they are.



posted on Sep, 30 2013 @ 11:12 AM
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Korg Trinity

mrthumpy

Yes there is a physical object or phenomena. They're called contrails and are well known and understood. The concensus at this time is that they contribute a net warming to the global climate.


I suggest everyone listen to this....



Peace,

Korg.


I suggest you answer this

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Sep, 30 2013 @ 11:14 AM
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minkmouse
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It really is quite sad that this video could be offered up as "PROOF" Typical chemmie hogwash!


Standard chemtrail level of evidence, some vague mumblings from a guy who doesn't really know much about it. It's what I've come to expect



posted on Sep, 30 2013 @ 11:22 AM
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Korg Trinity
If this was an attempt to reduce global warming effects... why are they not just coming out and saying so..... Why the secrecy?

Because of what dozens of professionals who have worked in related industries have told folks here in the past...

Its not being done intentionally by any organization with “secret” nefarious purposes, its an accidental byproduct of normal air traffic. It's actually a result airlines using more efficient engines with higher bypass ratios. You cannot expect the airlines to take "responsibility" for something that is not being intentionally done by them.



posted on Sep, 30 2013 @ 11:30 AM
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mikell
You have to prove they exist first and no one has to the best of my knowledge.


Time to increase your knowledge.



posted on Sep, 30 2013 @ 11:31 AM
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That video is garbage. Camera mugging a first officer, who is on duty, does not have much time to explain, does not speak good English, and cannot make any “official” statement as he would be representing the airlines, is not proof of anything. For all you know, as both of these two's English is poor, he might be assuming that the guy is asking him about “contrails”. Contrails are a necessary evil, they are a natural byproduct of air travel. If you want to stop contrails (aka "chemtrails") then you must stop all flying.



posted on Sep, 30 2013 @ 11:36 AM
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I suggest everyone listen to this....


And I suggest watching these....







And before this gets brought out..



Now remember knowledge is power...



posted on Sep, 30 2013 @ 11:44 AM
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Korg Trinity

So I am stating that the Chemtrails are in fact seeding cloud cover to reduce global warming....


Except:

a) cloud seeding is the process whereby moisture-bearing low level clouds are seeded with particles, either by aircraft or rocket, in order to try and increase rainfall

and

b) high levels clouds - like contrails (which some call chemtrails) cause a (small) net warming effect.

ie www.wired.com...


(btw the IPCC AR5 is now available to download but it's a very big file and I've not yet had a chance to see what attributions they give to contrails in it)



posted on Sep, 30 2013 @ 11:50 AM
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NowanKenubi
We've noticed here a few years ago that every time there were chemtrails in the sky, a cloud cover would follow.


Sailors and many others have known that for decades - thousands of years even ...... Before there were contrails they used naturally occuring cirrus clouds the same way. It's a sure-fire sign that a warm front is approaching (though the front may not necessarily produce rain over continental areas)

www4.uwsp.edu...

edit on 30-9-2013 by AndyMayhew because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 30 2013 @ 12:48 PM
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network dude

Korg Trinity

network dude

Korg Trinity

mikell
You have to prove they exist first and no one has to the best of my knowledge. But have fun anyway


There can be no doubt that they do exist... all you have to do is look up.



But what if you see contrails?

Surely they exist, right?


Contrails do indeed exist... They dissipate and do not form cloud cover...

This may help you identify the difference.



Or this excellent thread...

Chemtrails Vs Contrails... There's a MASSIVE Difference!!! Check these out...

Peace,

Korg.


I realize that lots of folks really want to believe in chemtrails. I understand. I am not here to smash your beliefs, I will offer this Link to more knowledge should you decide to look into it. In this link, it explains how contrails can last for minutes, or even hours depending on the conditions. If you chose to ignore it, I understand. But please know, there is a whole bunch of peer reviewed science to back up my claim. Do you have any?



I read your linked source... the highlighted sections clearly indicate the weather conditions for contrails to last for hours and spread out have to be very precise.... This does not account for the daily occurrence of chemtrails in all weather conditions does it now.

Look at the video again....

Notice that the clear skies indicate the humidity on that day in that location had to be extremely low.... there should not have been any contrail at the altitude of the shown chemtrail. The plane at high altitude only makes a contrail because of the temperature being very cold at 30'000 feet (estimated altitude).

Peace,

Korg.


Peace,

Korg.



posted on Sep, 30 2013 @ 12:53 PM
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Zaphod58
reply to post by Korg Trinity
 


So of contrails dissipate immediately, and chemtrails don't, that means they've been spraying us since flight began. The first report of a contrail lingering and spreading was in 1915. This is a really long term plan then.


No not at all...

I am saying that yes absolutely under the right conditions contrails do indeed linger for hours and spread out..... Under certain conditions....

However those conditions do not occur on a daily basis all over the planet at the same time now do they?

The logic can be drawn from an old saying....

"If it looks like a spade and digs a hole then it must be a spade....." It's flawed logic.

In the case of Contrails they look like Chemtrails under only certain conditions... whereas chemtrails look like chemtrails under all conditions...

Hence the logic dictates that contrails and chemtrails are different.

Peace,

Korg.

Peace,

Korg,



posted on Sep, 30 2013 @ 12:58 PM
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Notice that the clear skies indicate the humidity on that day in that location had to be extremely low.... there should not have been any contrail at the altitude of the shown chemtrail. The plane at high altitude only makes a contrail because of the temperature being very cold at 30'000 feet (estimated altitude).


That whole statement is just so wrong on many levels...

But let us start here shall we...

Just by looking up you can't tell what the humidity is at that height.

How do you know it was a chemtrail you say was shown?

I can't even comment on the last part as it just shows your lack of knowledge in the aviation and meteorological field.



posted on Sep, 30 2013 @ 12:59 PM
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AndyMayhew

Korg Trinity

So I am stating that the Chemtrails are in fact seeding cloud cover to reduce global warming....


Except:

a) cloud seeding is the process whereby moisture-bearing low level clouds are seeded with particles, either by aircraft or rocket, in order to try and increase rainfall



I know it's asking a little too much of the audience to actually watch the material I posted in my OP. If you did you would understand what Global Dimming is and how that relates to the (seeding) of cloud cover....

It's all related to particulate in the air....

I'm not talking about seeding a cloud to produce rain... which is what you are talking about.

Korg.



posted on Sep, 30 2013 @ 01:02 PM
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In the case of Contrails they look like Chemtrails under only certain conditions... whereas chemtrails look like chemtrails under all conditions...

Hence the logic dictates that contrails and chemtrails are different.


Oh my....

Actually logic dictates that one is real and the other cannot be proven to be real..Want to guess which one is which?



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