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tsurfer2000h
reply to post by OrphanApology
The second link was to a forum. I never claimed it to be valid "proof" one way or another, no more than I would if I linked to abovetopsecret.
I was just showing you that site isn't very credible that is all I can't tell you what to believe and do not have any reason to.
Just trying to deny ignorance is all I am doing.
Yes but it gets to the point where every time a topic is created there are hordes of "one side" only debunkers. I am all for discussions but if someone comes in without even discussing the possibility of the argument of the other side it kind of feels more like I am on a Washington post forum(full of very intelligent people who believe most of what mainstream sources tell them).
Zaphod58
reply to post by OrphanApology
There are four or five companies that lease air sampling aircraft that could get samples of contrails. The means to get proof is there, several groups have had the money to do it, but to date no one has. I wonder why.
The first website was one that had information regarding both ends of the spectrum in regard to chemtrails (which weather modification does fall under).
Zaphod58
reply to post by OrphanApology
And every skeptic in every chemtrail thread well tell you that the possibility is there. What we want to see is evidence. Not patents, not pictures of holding patterns, or ballast tanks, and not crappy YouTube videos. I for one will be the first to admit I was wrong and will immediately apologize to chemtrail believers if you show me some real evidence something is being sprayed.
Neither is this site.
I was thinking I wonder if you could design a model rocket to take an air sample somehow? That'd be a fun project.
FlyInTheOintment
reply to post by Wide-Eyes
I spent a long time in hospital here in Manchester, UK recently, and I also saw on several occasions some serious chemtrail spraying going on, grids and 'x' patterns everywhere in the skies above. The days on which I saw the trails were no different from days when there were no trails, in terms of the weather, and so I do not buy into the debunking myth that they only form in certain weather conditions. Not for the first time, I also saw regular passenger aeroplanes passing over the chemtrails and leaving absolutely no vapour trail, despite seemingly being at the same altitude, or a bit higher - and so the debunking myth that all planes form so-called 'lingering contrails' is also ridiculous to my own understanding.
I can't say why, but at certain times, certain places get a spray-treatment, and the result is that oftentimes a beautiful sunny day will eventually turn into a hazy day, or a downright cloudy day, seemingly as a result - directly - of the spraying of mixtures that leave particles in suspension in our skies. Why this might be, and what is being sprayed, I cannot say - but I'm confident that something is being done deliberately. The pilot in the OP video suggested they are a 'necessary evil' - I presume he has been told that it is some sort of atmospheric manipulation to minimise the effects of global warming. I have a feeling it may not be in our best interests at all - but that is just a feeling.
I'm tentatively on the fence regarding motive, but completely sold on the actuality of the spraying.
Zaphod58
reply to post by ArchaicDesigns
And I can find fifty patents for things never built, and never used. A patent doesn't prove something is in use, only that someone had an idea and wanted to make sure no one else used it.
It's like saying "I'm going to invent a weather manipulation device in 1990 so no one in the future will make a weather manipulation device"
tsurfer2000h
reply to post by OrphanApology
I was thinking I wonder if you could design a model rocket to take an air sample somehow? That'd be a fun project.
Now that is the way to think.
That does sound interesting good luck if you decide to try this type of experiment.
Yes it does. Even if it failed it would still be interesting to create a rocket that takes air samples. There are also weather balloons that could be used but I'm guessing those would be expensive to make.
Zaphod58
reply to post by OrphanApology
That's always been one of my problems with the chemtrail crowd. It's so hard to find anyone willing to do anything at all to try to prove they exist, including the biggest perpetrators of the conspiracy.
Kudos for being willing to try to act instead of just sit on your hands.
tsurfer2000h
reply to post by OrphanApology
Yes it does. Even if it failed it would still be interesting to create a rocket that takes air samples. There are also weather balloons that could be used but I'm guessing those would be expensive to make.
Actually not...weather balloons can be purchased cheap depending on the size you want..
www.scientificsonline.com...
A cell phone might do it but at an altitude of 39,000 feet, maybe not. Maybe a barometric trigger would be better.
Then don't get started about installing a live camera so you could activate whatever mechanism once you reach the "trails".