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posted on Sep, 29 2013 @ 07:40 AM
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gwynned
Anyone of intelligence following this story knows that Bin Laden, whoever he might be, has been dead for some time, if in fact, he even ever existed! So, the question for me is who is See-more Hirsch? How does he get away with it and have access to main stream media outlets where others can't get a listen if they pay for it themselves?

Is he a 'great journalist' or just another gatekeeper, providing just enough truth to whet most appetites?


I've always wondered that too. Why do some et murdered while others seemingly get a pass. He has blown the lid on enough stories to infuriate some of the most powerful people.

I also noticed though that much of his breaking stories many times has enough influence to sway public opinion away from one policy or party and move to the other. In that sense i think I can see your point. By calling out one party for failures it allows those in the bowels to change position and backing of the other party, i.e. the alternative view, read: "change you can believe in", gets them in a position of providing change but really just getting more of the same.

It wouldn't surprise me as I know he has to be connected to the good ol boys some how.




posted on Sep, 29 2013 @ 07:51 AM
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gwynned
Anyone of intelligence following this story knows that Bin Laden, whoever he might be, has been dead for some time, if in fact, he even ever existed! So, the question for me is who is See-more Hirsch? How does he get away with it and have access to main stream media outlets where others can't get a listen if they pay for it themselves?

Is he a 'great journalist' or just another gatekeeper, providing just enough truth to whet most appetites?


I suspect he is just somewhere in between. He might just be a human being seeing an atrocious situation out of control and in need of a check in a world where the 'one world gov' crowd wishes an outcome and appears to get that outcome. My money too is on the comment a few back that said 'my money is on more lies'. We KNOW the media lie like they couldn't tell the truth for fear of losing their gravy trains and being around for those on power trips to shower them with trinkets.



posted on Sep, 29 2013 @ 08:01 AM
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So he must have pictures of someone in a safe place? Or maybe he will end up having a grandchild kidnapped and be extorted to say a partial truth, God knows. But one thing is for sure we have liars delivering the news in many places. I feel like we are living in the news hell the Russians have for a century. I read 1984 and seen the movies about it. There is no question we have made it to that level of government/media controlled corruption. As far as I can tell the US and a handful of faithful, to our government largess, think 9/11 OS. I don't know what to believe exactly but the OS is BS. Bin laden WAS declared dead by the head of Pakistan and within a month she was assassinated. Granted the jihadist might have waxed her for boorish 7th century reasons, but the coincidence of this and then the Seals death after 'killing OBL' reeks of something fishy. If I had ordered this raid as a President, we would be showing his body to the world and trying to draw suicide bombers to a death trap so the world could see their genes of hate be removed from the gene pool.



posted on Sep, 29 2013 @ 08:04 AM
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In Hersh's piece why was there not a single mention of the Zionist's or their 'total hegemonic' war machine designed to overpower and dominate the entire Middle East? Not a word of the Jews? No mention of the Israeli's - or of the cabal of dual citizen spies and traitors to the USA that comprise the overall membership at AIPAC and/or their collusion with Mossad?

And as a result of my research for this thread I'm also reminded here of a recent piece on "A Zionist & Conservative Blog" titled "The (Disturbing/Dangerous) Parallels Between DHS & Nazi Germany’s Gestapo" written by Adina Kutnicki who describes herself as "this dual American-Israeli citizen" in a similar manner as would Seymour Hersh (although less so today) yet neither she, nor Hersh places blame where blame should be even though they both know full well the 'why's and wherefore's' of the true source of danger to America, and the fact that it lies primarily with the Zionist's - a fact that both of them work diligently to hide and to cover-up. In point of fact, they both use articles such as these - that give the appearance of attacking the 'government' (or whomever) so as to more effectively work their propaganda magic in their efforts at deceiving the American public.

In the article referred to by the OP, Seymour Hersh (allegedly) excoriates the 'O-team' by leveling very strong charges against them making harshly worded comments such as the 'headliner' "the NSA and the 'pathetic' American media," blah, blah, blah. Both writers (Hersh + Kutnicki) are Jews, but in their very public admonitions against the PTB they utter NOT one single word about Jews, or Zionism, or about anything that would lead the reader to the actual source of the danger that we Americans are subjected to.

Articles such as these are nothing more (or less) than well crafted propaganda pieces meant to 'deflect' away from the real hazards that we all face as the authors innocently pretend one thing, while saying or meaning another. The most important aspect of articles such as these lies in what's NOT said, while at the same time the writer(s) pretends to be saying something against the 'government' or more generally - the PTB. Very deceptive indeed.

As for Malynn I'll get to you soon enough.
edit on 29-9-2013 by YodHeVauHe because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 29 2013 @ 08:28 AM
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Starred that!.

I agree that this duality could be key.

I don't know exactly WHAT I make of these revelations but my gut feeling is we are dupes and since this guy has made a splash before in the area of some kind of truth that needed the light of day, there might be a kernel of usable truth here. So, if he has some real data we might be able to use it. Corroboration of 'facts' is a sticky business but our eyes have been collectively telling us all SOMETHING is not right.

Couple that with the human nature of those in leadership positions to be greedy, lustful and power hungry then we could see a real problem is bubbling up that might bite every living being in a bad way. Especially, when the truth is sequestered amidst such violent leadership who pick wars on reasons we can't explain logically in the face of the injustices we see occurring world wide. We are not protecting the weak and downtrodden, Rather our leaders on this planet appear to have some other nefarious reason behind this insanity. I suspect the answer is in those "Georgia Guidestones". Commandment 1: Thou shalt have no more than 500 million on the Earth, strikes me as a clue as to why things are happening.



posted on Sep, 29 2013 @ 09:36 AM
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The American media show images of the American flag about every 5 minutes. If that is not brainwashing, then I don't know what is.




posted on Sep, 29 2013 @ 09:39 AM
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Being a helicopter person, one of the big clues regarding the Abbottabad raid was that the helicopter tail section shown, as having 'crashed', was some sort of stage prop. There is no helicopter in the US inventory that looks remotely like that. It is certainly NOT from a UH-60.

One might say that it appears to be one of the French helicopters, but close examination shows that it is missing the 'duct' for the 'fan.'

Bogus story, all the way. Bravo to Hersh for having splashed it out there, finally.



posted on Sep, 29 2013 @ 01:09 PM
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Justoneman

gwynned
Anyone of intelligence following this story knows that Bin Laden, whoever he might be, has been dead for some time, if in fact, he even ever existed! So, the question for me is who is See-more Hirsch? How does he get away with it and have access to main stream media outlets where others can't get a listen if they pay for it themselves?

Is he a 'great journalist' or just another gatekeeper, providing just enough truth to whet most appetites?


I suspect he is just somewhere in between. He might just be a human being seeing an atrocious situation out of control and in need of a check in a world where the 'one world gov' crowd wishes an outcome and appears to get that outcome. My money too is on the comment a few back that said 'my money is on more lies'. We KNOW the media lie like they couldn't tell the truth for fear of losing their gravy trains and being around for those on power trips to shower them with trinkets.


So how does this human being get past the gates when others cannot? Or does he evidence 'credulity' for the media, leading people to conclude that good courageous people can break through.....and manage to live for many years and selling millions of books while others are shot dead as Rosnitiate said earlier.

Not saying he's a bad guy, only that he appears to be working for the same folks everyone else is. Just playing a different role.



posted on Sep, 30 2013 @ 12:20 AM
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Zanti Misfit
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“In war, the Truth must Always be Guarded by a Bodyguard of Lies.”

Winston Churchill


Same holds True Today , we Are at War , Only this Time we do not Know who the Real Enemy is .........Yet ...
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Yes we do know who the real enemy is. It's the people selling the terrorists weapons; the globalist supremacists.



posted on Sep, 30 2013 @ 03:50 AM
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The government has had problems with Hersh ever since he exposed The My Lai massacre.The reason he has not been taken out maybe the fact that he's so well known that a sudden death or accident would raise suspicions.



posted on Sep, 30 2013 @ 10:22 AM
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mike dangerously
The government has had problems with Hersh ever since he exposed The My Lai massacre.The reason he has not been taken out maybe the fact that he's so well known that a sudden death or accident would raise suspicions.


How has the government had 'problems' with Hersh? Maybe there was an appearance of such, but unless you are a true insider, you don't really know. It's called controlled opposition. Give the more awake a taste of truth and they will follow you down any rabbit hole you direct them to. As someone earlier pointed out, there is no mention of the Zionists. So anyone who believes Hersh will believe they have the truth, have confidence and faith in a journalistic hero and never imagine THEY'VE BEEN FOOLED AGAIN!!!

Just like those folks who listen to Amy Goodman.



posted on Sep, 30 2013 @ 12:56 PM
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schuyler
The problem with Hersch is that you know what he is going to say before he picks up his pen. He's not the kind of journalist who explores a subject, researches the facts, and comes to a conclusion. He comes to a conclusion before he knows any of the facts, then fills in the details to support his conclusion. Because of this, he is not credible except to people who already believe as he does.

Alex Tsakaris completely debunked your so-called expose' of Richard Dolan

BAM!

wait until he gets ahold of this latest Hersch nonsense!

Arouet - Thinks Alex is a Greek God



posted on Sep, 30 2013 @ 10:20 PM
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Sy says a lot of good things and i wish he would tell the truth about 9-11. I'm sure he knows about bldg 7.



posted on Sep, 30 2013 @ 10:22 PM
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mike dangerously
The government has had problems with Hersh ever since he exposed The My Lai massacre.The reason he has not been taken out maybe the fact that he's so well known that a sudden death or accident would raise suspicions.


Obozo would love to Breitbart him.



posted on Oct, 7 2013 @ 07:57 AM
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excellent points on the Zionist connection, let me add that Hersh, in 2001, published in the New Yorker the position that 9/11 occurred because the CIA etc did not have the resources to track Bin Laden. The current Hersh position is either recognition of his own failure..or a new backup cover for the Zionasties.
Let us see where he takes it.



posted on Oct, 11 2013 @ 05:48 AM
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darkstar57
reply to post by YodHeVauHe
 

excellent points on the Zionist connection, let me add that Hersh, in 2001, published in the New Yorker the position that 9/11 occurred because the CIA etc did not have the resources to track Bin Laden. The current Hersh position is either recognition of his own failure..or a new backup cover for the Zionasties.
Let us see where he takes it.


Reply also to -->post by gwynned
 

AND --->reply to post by Justoneman
 


I have been away from the thread for awhile - Just saw your post(s) - you're some of the few who has a grip on what I was referring to. Thanks for the input and for anything further you might have by way of information on SH.

Much of the problem with well known, intelligent personages like SH is that they can actually participate in the cover-up by using their reputation in such a way that what they do NOT say becomes accepted - becomes part of the propaganda version of so-called "truth." In other words - everything a person in this category would have to say bears an air of credibility and legitimacy, hence believability, so if SH (primarily because he's a Jew himself) never mentions the Jews or the Zionist role in 9/11 or any other false flag operation since then - then that must mean that Zionist's WERE NOT involved in it. In this way Hersh becomes part of the conspiracy in what he does NOT say, which was the point of my post originally. He's a cad in my book for that reason alone, mainly because I am positive that SH knows exactly what's going on.

RE:my post on this (above)
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posted on Oct, 13 2013 @ 09:31 AM
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You make a very good point, but don't forget what happened to Paul Wellstone or to Cynthia McKinney.

Those on the inside, so to speak, in a way make easier targets than ordinary citizens. You may be right about Hersh deliberately suppressing any talk of the actual perpetrators of the attacks, but another possibility is that he is trying to walk a very fine line.

At least he called them out on Abbottabad.






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