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vethumanbeing
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AbleEndangered
reply to post by spartacus699
Its all fun & games til someone turns on the god mode cheat!!
Somehow I think the mode just turned off in this World and no more cheating! You can either enjoy life or life will do it for you. Some do not like this!
Life is what happens when you least expect it--or when you are too busy to notice its happening as you are attempting to seek the life you are planning for; the other one you are destined for is usurping it/or waylaying your carefully wrought plans? Life will conquer that is for sure, whether you like it or not, as you say better just appreciate it enough to enjoy the ride.
infoseeker
The Church took this one understanding away from man! Using Hell as some fear base idea of lost hope.
I can't say anything about this in your Life, I just KNOW when I am doing something wrong, period! And if I can not try do do something myself. Why would I need a God to do it for me?
infoseeker26754
reply to post by vethumanbeing
Without choice, you are nothing but a slave. Free Will somehow is bound by Fate. Fate is a strange term.
Say in 20 yrs from now, you will die from drinking. Today you are given a choice not to drink, so you stop. Or somebody tell's you that you drive like a moron, you listen and instead of die-ing you crash the car only. Who changed the plans?
infoseeker26754
reply to post by vethumanbeing
That's the idea really? Even if there was I God. Would it matter? It's not like He's gonna come down and speak to me! I have enought voices in my head that take care of this!
Each and everyone of them have something to say. Every now and then some go away; stating their point and that's it. When I started to actually listen to what they had to say, I feel better! Every emoition has a voice inside your head, I created them so must accept them as a part of me. I just hate it when their right! Now I'm use to it
God is God and it is the I do not care, I do not know, it just don't matter. It's not like God has a 911 # anyway, some think He does!
infoseeker26754
reply to post by vethumanbeing
Actually if Satan existed, that would shed some light on this I look at it this way. Man blame's everything on Him so in a way He should win in Default!
vethumanbeing
infoseeker26754
reply to post by vethumanbeing
That was to be our job until, "something" had to interfere with the plan. Some would use names like Satan, Alien's, and other excuses to miss lead us into think this way. Reason's Unknown.
The big bad boomerang was Lucifer giving us/the human 'Free Will'; totally against the rules (did not consult anyone) as in (in its mind was necessary to keep us from being slaves), and in so doing was 'cast out of heaven as a fallen angel'.
Why risk everything to help the human, well he saw potencial growth somewhere, if it equated to strife, or obsolescence so be it; it took that chance. I would have too to give the human freedom of choice.
vethumanbeing
infoseeker26754
reply to post by vethumanbeing
infoseeker
The Church took this one understanding away from man! Using Hell as some fear base idea of lost hope.
I can't say anything about this in your Life, I just KNOW when I am doing something wrong, period! And if I can not try do do something myself. Why would I need a God to do it for me?
Fear based ideology is one of organized religions tricks,
Snarl
vethumanbeing
infoseeker26754
reply to post by vethumanbeing
That was to be our job until, "something" had to interfere with the plan. Some would use names like Satan, Alien's, and other excuses to miss lead us into think this way. Reason's Unknown.
The big bad boomerang was Lucifer giving us/the human 'Free Will'; totally against the rules (did not consult anyone) as in (in its mind was necessary to keep us from being slaves), and in so doing was 'cast out of heaven as a fallen angel'.
So, would it be accurate, in the context of this thread, to describe Lucifer as a hacker? Absolutely fascinating analogy!
Why risk everything to help the human, well he saw potencial growth somewhere, if it equated to strife, or obsolescence so be it; it took that chance. I would have too to give the human freedom of choice.
I guess that's what makes life interesting. Not so sure I would take that 'risk' because it wasn't something of 'mine' to risk in the first place. One begins to wonder and feel ever so much smaller.
Astrocyte
This concept is useless as it doesn't mean a damn thing. It keeps us in a infinite loop without providing a metaphysical anchor.
When we say God, we're basically saying something - or everything - beyond existence, yet within existence, is responsible for existence and all it's happenings. This concept is irreducible. It is necessarily paradoxical - beyond logic.
Snarl
vethumanbeing
infoseeker26754
reply to post by vethumanbeing
infoseeker
The Church took this one understanding away from man! Using Hell as some fear base idea of lost hope.
I can't say anything about this in your Life, I just KNOW when I am doing something wrong, period! And if I can not try do do something myself. Why would I need a God to do it for me?
Fear based ideology is one of organized religions tricks,
"one of" ... such a telling condemnation. Would you mind starting a thread on this topic? I would like to know more.
Why am I having such a darned hard time getting these threads to properly quote what I am referencing?? Aishh!!
vethumanbeing
Snarl
vethumanbeing
infoseeker26754
reply to post by vethumanbeing
That was to be our job until, "something" had to interfere with the plan. Some would use names like Satan, Alien's, and other excuses to miss lead us into think this way. Reason's Unknown.
The big bad boomerang was Lucifer giving us/the human 'Free Will'; totally against the rules (did not consult anyone) as in (in its mind was necessary to keep us from being slaves), and in so doing was 'cast out of heaven as a fallen angel'.
So, would it be accurate, in the context of this thread, to describe Lucifer as a hacker? Absolutely fascinating analogy!
Why risk everything to help the human, well he saw potencial growth somewhere, if it equated to strife, or obsolescence so be it; it took that chance. I would have too to give the human freedom of choice.
I guess that's what makes life interesting. Not so sure I would take that 'risk' because it wasn't something of 'mine' to risk in the first place. One begins to wonder and feel ever so much smaller.
I would call Lucifer the ultimate hacker in so being it re-arranged (by default) a negotiated agreement/ as in without telling anyone took it upon itself to make an amendment to the DESIGN of how humans related to its environment, slaves not an option. It did so without scrutiny, as in (coded some binaries into the stream no one caught). Lucifer is no dummy, and is actually a friend of/to mankind. Its unfortunate It is portrayed as the demon/satan/devil, but there you are regarding religious supplication and determination to condem the truly rightious. Lucifer=Enlightenment why is this not understood (it is one of the Good Guys). As far as risk was concerned, Lucifer was one of the major designers (think of Tesla being usurped by Edison AC/DC) or being given a savings bond worth 10 dollars if you invented a simulated process to produce rubies or 'Zircon' diamonds by Monsanto Corp. or BASF or Brunswick (they do not just make pool tables and bowling alley components) or "3M" steals your stickyback formulation for memo pads. Point being? Come uppance. There does exist a universal hammer scale that will balance all equations whether one likes it or not.edit on 28-9-2013 by vethumanbeing because: (no reason given)
vethumanbeing
Snarl
vethumanbeing
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infoseeker
The Church took this one understanding away from man! Using Hell as some fear base idea of lost hope.
I can't say anything about this in your Life, I just KNOW when I am doing something wrong, period! And if I can not try do do something myself. Why would I need a God to do it for me?
Fear based ideology is one of organized religions tricks,
"one of" ... such a telling condemnation. Would you mind starting a thread on this topic? I would like to know more.
Why am I having such a darned hard time getting these threads to properly quote what I am referencing?? Aishh!!
Seriously?
Astrocyte
This is what you call metaphysics for dummies.
Infinite regression, anyone? If a physical computer created the world, who created the physical computer?
This concept is useless as it doesn't mean a damn thing. It keeps us in a infinite loop without providing a metaphysical anchor. When we say God, we're basically saying something - or everything - beyond existence, yet within existence, is responsible for existence and all it's happenings. This concept is irreducible. It is necessarily paradoxical - beyond logic.
The only sane metaphysics is one which doesn't worry about contradiction.
schuyler
Isaac Asimov postulated this long ago in The Last Question where the computer, in some sort of transuniverse, pondered how to start things up and ultimately came to the conclusion that it ought to be,
"Let there be light."