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A military veteran in Crawford County, Michigan has been arrested and charged with a felony assault with a deadly weapon even after HE was the one who called the cops in the first place when he found a man trespassing on his property.
When the man’s wife tried to video tape what was happening the cops told her to turn off the camera and tried to take it. (You can see the video below… only because the wife figured out how to restore the “deleted” file)
The Blaze has reported that Thomas Donald was out hunting with his son on his own land when they came across the trespasser. Donald had an unloaded .410 shotgun while his son was using a crossbow.
When they came across the trespasser on a dirt bike, they escorted him back to the house and called the Department of Natural Resources. But when the police showed up everything went downhill fast. According to Heather Donald when the cops showed up Thomas Donald held up his open shotgun in one hand and held a shell in his other hand to show that he was not a threat.
So although she was on her own property she couldnt film the event going down? how does that make sense? I do notice at large events or gatherings cops have their own recording devices and cameras, so again the Cops are acting above the law instead of upholding the law as they are supposed to. Definitely need more background on this story.
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Myself being Canadian there is always stories about the RCMP doing whatever they want. Keep us updated on how this story transpires?
I don't know anything about gun laws in any state or laws about video taping police officers, but I do know that if that father and son really found a guy on a dirt bike there is no way the dirt bike guy would have went back with them and waited for police to be called. He would have hopped on his bike and tore out of there. There are only two reasons I can think of that would have made the dirt bike guy follow the father: (1) He had either a loaded or unloaded gun pointed at him by the father or (2) his dirt bike stalled, wouldn't start, or was out of gas, etc...
Someone needs to take some time and do a thread on the various options for real time off-site streaming of a video recording.
The technology was new...cumbersome...hard to make work right in 2011 in the Occupy protests. People wearing full body rigs from Live Stream that were awkward as ever to make it work. Now? SO much has advanced in so short a time for Wi-Fi, home wireless network options and handheld recording devices working together, it shouldn't be that hard for people at most levels to use something that works.
I would appreciate that everyone that intends to post a comment on this thread keep it respectful, and not make comments that are hateful towards police officers, because there are many very good ones out there.
Now to the story. Although I think a police officer has every right to secure a situation so that they and everyone else in the area is not in fear for their lives, I think they may have made a few errors.
1) The fact they try to intimidate the wife to stop video taping by telling her she would be arrested was tactical error #1.
2) The fact the video was deleted or how they made the woman delete the video had the intent to cover something up tactical error #2
3) In Michigan you have the right to open carry especially on your property.
4) And 1st, 2nd, and 4th amendments of the US constitution I believe have been violated here.
But when the police showed up everything went downhill fast. According to Heather Donald when the cops showed up Thomas Donald held up his open shotgun in one hand and held a shell in his other hand to show that he was not a threat.
So .... you make a post about out-of-control cops ...... acting like typical, everyday, out-of-control cops and you want to control the content of the responses?
Sorry my friend
Since your new to ATS you may not understand ad hominem attacks derail threads and topics, in regards to police and have in the past, so I added a simple awareness clause. People can post whatever they want within ATS guidelines of course.
Now to evaluate your "Sorry my friend" comment which is extremely interesting, because since we are not friends, or even acquaintances this term is used to control the other party, in a derogatory manner, to make the person speaking points seem more valid.
Attacking the messenger adds nothing to the thread or ATS, for future reference.