Transhumanism = Eugenics = Death

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posted on Sep, 26 2013 @ 09:49 AM
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Np friend, and I thank you for showing me more than I would have ever found. You have shown me connections
I didnt realise exsisted. Great thread,im gonna keep following it. Im still going through the videos, thought I would get the reading outta the way.


Peace.




posted on Sep, 26 2013 @ 10:05 AM
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I have thoroughly researched this subject for some time. Consider me an amateur but a well informed enthusiast ....

Eugenics WAS a reality that a group of people used as a model for achieving a fundamental change in the human condition. Their ideas were focused in selective breeding like what is done with domestic animals.

Transhumanism which was reborn essentially in the 90s through communication and dialog with and by professionals in almost every field but mostly in technology, is different in many ways. Most notably is that its aim is at improving the species and not just a single "race".


The aim was again to change the human condition for the better. This has not changed in all of human history. We have always sought to improve the human condition through what ever knowledge or ability that is at the forefront of human development at any given time.

The over population argument you speak of is a single argument by a single branch of transhumanism of several.

Your own research should show you that there exist many schools of thought behind this concept...and not all of which are sinister and pitted against "brown people "

The reality is, NO ONE cares about race. That is what is used by the political class to divide the population amongst itself.
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posted on Sep, 26 2013 @ 10:38 AM
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also worth mentioning is the fact the Eugenics was in the Nazis the product of the intellectual class of Germany embracing the concept of "over man" as described by Nietzsche. In this transhumanism is different. They don't seek to make an "over man". They wish to make all mankind better...not a single group superior to other groups.

also better implies longer life, better quality of life and over all improvement for all
as a species ....



posted on Sep, 26 2013 @ 11:22 AM
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Has anyone else talked to someone younger than 20 and thought "Epsilon semi-moron"?



posted on Sep, 26 2013 @ 11:32 AM
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I don't see them as being "just useful".....Every part of humanity is a necessary component to our overall potential.

If we fail to see their potential and apply it it is because we are lacking not them.

EDIT:
In a way.....we are all epsilons to the next generation of man.....
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posted on Sep, 26 2013 @ 12:51 PM
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Putting a sharpened stone on the end of a stick to aid with hunting and using fire to cook food are transhuman.

So is the computer you are using and the internet you are communicating with.

Eugenics could be seen as transhuman within these boundaries too as a form of technology to alter the environment I will give you that, but then so is every other bit of technology ever created.



You will never recieve another reply from me.


[SNIP]

David Attenborough is not a Lord btw.

In addition to his knighthood in 1985 which made him Sir David Attenborough, he was also appointed a CBE in 1974, a CVO in 1991 and a CH in 1996.


His brother is though.

edit on 26-9-2013 by Tidnabnilims because: Lets call people by their actual titles instead of twisting the truth to strengthen arguments OK ?
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posted on Sep, 26 2013 @ 01:29 PM
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Off topic but well meant

Good to see you posting again, and what a post it was


Cody



posted on Sep, 26 2013 @ 01:34 PM
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I won't have time to make a full response to this thread until the weekend , but I do want to address in a quick comment something the OP said about the Astors.

You will not find anything current about them on YouTube because the bloodline has more or less ended.

For further information on these details, see my previous post.


www.abovetopsecret.com...
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posted on Sep, 26 2013 @ 04:00 PM
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Im not a troll buddy, im not your buddy guy. There is a grey area. What about iron lung, or people in hospitals hooked up to machines, or people with bionic arms, or people that take artificial medicine? There is a grey area, transhumanism can be good or bad, or a little less good, and a little less bad, or little less, or little less. If you have made up your mind you and your family in the future, 20, 40,50,1000 years will refuse to go along with the trends, or turn into a machine and travel the galaxy with the human race, good for you, congratulations, im so proud of you. But I am telling you, technology and science will progress, man will mingle with machine, man is a machine, just not as good of one as he can be. If someone forces you to do something fight them, if you think its dangerous warn the world, but this will occur, so if you really want noone to attempt to do this, good luck stopping them.



posted on Oct, 2 2013 @ 01:56 AM
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The future will happen whether you like it or not, or are you really planning on stopping it?

Powers will put an end to it in nuclear apocalypse, as along as there is Russia,China,Iran,nth korea even when there is not these nations the west will always have an enema thus will bring it on our selves before this ever happens.Plus dont forget the climate change coming to destroy your materialistic party.



posted on Oct, 2 2013 @ 02:11 AM
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They wish to make all mankind better...not a single group superior to other groups.

I ve hear that kind of talk before. But capitalism is all about levels of status and class your idea of equality sounds unconvincing in the post modern age. Those with power will use it to simply consolidate their own position at detriment of the majority nothing new new here only new tech!.
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posted on Oct, 2 2013 @ 01:52 PM
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Theprimordialocker
Plus dont forget the climate change coming to destroy your materialistic party.


But we can always buy carbon credits and feel smug about our smog.



posted on Oct, 3 2013 @ 11:05 PM
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But we can always buy carbon credits and feel smug about our smog

Was that suppose to be sardonic?



posted on Oct, 3 2013 @ 11:26 PM
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wait wait wait...
are people saying GMO seeds are bad?
not only is that ridiculous but it seems a pretty odd argument only because those people would starve to death otherwise, so wouldnt denying them seeds be what population control people would want? So these GMO hating people want people starving to death and dead? Im pretty sure the people who have food to eat would rather not be dead...
this conspiracy must be deep, even the people who hate GMO products must secretly all be in league with the cabal of these population control zealots because in truth they want all those people to starve to death dead and dying. Its the anti GMO people that hate human life if that is the subject being discussed.



posted on Oct, 8 2013 @ 12:31 PM
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You are mistaken.
GMO/transgenic crops are NOT going to save Africa.
GMO/transgenic crops are NOT going to stop hunger.
This is simply more transhumanist/crypto-eugenic/bioethics rhetoric.
GMO/transgenic crops are simply weaponized food:

The EyeOpener- Life & Death: Bioethics as crypto-eugenics:

www.youtube.com...

Seeds of Death: Unveiling The Lies of GMO's - Full Movie:

www.youtube.com...

What are Roundup Ready & Bt Pesticide GMO crops? You need to know!:

www.youtube.com...

Learn How GMOs are Killing People:

www.youtube.com...

The world doesn't need GMO to feed the starving masses. The amount of waste everyday is staggering and can EASILY feed the needy with little effort at all.

seattletimes.com...

Who is the number one GMO guy right now?
Bill "Windows 8=NSA/Vaccine you all to death" Gates.
What else is this transhumanist/crypto-eugenics shill up to?

Depopulation: Bill Gates And His Eugenics Lie:

www.youtube.com...

But Bill doesn't stop there. Transhumanists also want to kill you with toxic vaccines and if you don't take his poison, he will have you arrested.

healthimpactnews.com... ine/

As soon as the transhumanists figure out America will not resist, they will do it here too.
Technically...they already are.
The next leg of transhumanist/crypto-eugenics is the lie of AGW.
Just as was the case with the "overpopulation lie", this lie is no different...

alethonews.wordpress.com...

[Part1 of 4] Chemtrails, Monsanto and Bill Gates : Connecting the Dots

www.youtube.com...

[Part 2 of 4] Chemtrails, Monsanto and Bill Gates

www.youtube.com...

[Part 3 of 4] Geoengineering: Chemtrails, Monsanto and Bill Gates

www.youtube.com...

[Part4 of 4] Chemtrails, Monsanto and Bill Gates: Connecting the Dots

www.youtube.com...

"But chem-trails aren't real!?"
Oh, really?

NASA admits chemtrails - 10 July 2013

www.youtube.com...

FBI Chief Says Chemtrails Are Death Dumps

www.youtube.com...

Next the transhumanists will say: "So, what? Geoengineering is making the world better."
Oh, really?

What Chemtrails Are Doing To Your Brain - Neurosurgeon Dr. Russell

www.youtube.com...

If Bill can't get the people to take his poison willingly, he will force them to take it by bribing the regulators to leave people without legal recourse...

intellihub.com...

Bill Gates, David Attenborough and all transhumanist appologists/shills are clearly insane...

larouchepac.com...

www.leicestermercury.co.uk...

www.spiked-online.com...

That's right...completely and utterly insane!

www.independent.co.uk...

And it gets worse because the transhumanist/crypto-eugenicists have amped things up a notch and if you dare to speak out against their secret expiramentation on the unwitting populations...they are discredited and removed using the vast wealth hidden in globalist foundations.

ireport.cnn.com...

"Oh, yeah...but what are YOU going to do to stop it?"

This is a strawman arguement and now I'll illustrate exactly why...
It took the transhumanists thousands of minds and hundreds of years of push mankind deliberately to the brink of his extinction. Asking what ONE mind will do to solve it all is the same as expecting one ant to completely remove a muffin. It just won't happen. This is exactly why the question is phrased by transhumanist/crypto-eugenicists in that fashion...they already KNOW the answer before they start.
To solve this problem will (AT THE VERY LEAST) take JUST as many minds working JUST as hard for JUST as long (if not longer) to fix. Applying the last example I gave, if a thousand or ten thousand ants are put to the same task of "removing a muffin"...the outcome is now QUITE different, no? It'll be gone in no time!
Our problems as a species are no different in this respect.
Individuals can not hope to solve it...but individuals working in concert CAN...and the transhumanists are PRAYING (to Gaia I assume) that the rest of us don't figure this out in time to stop them.
Their primary crypto-eugenics defence against this eventuality?
A state run education system designed to do their dirty work.
It all began with the Prussians and it's done nothing but spiral down the toilet EVER since.
Now, they simply get the sheep to do all the heavy lifting for them...

Psychology & Indoctrination for the Destruction of Critical Thinking in Public Schools

www.youtube.com...

The EyeOpener- Education & "National Security"

www.youtube.com...

An Angry History of Modern Education

www.youtube.com...

The Pathological Methodology of Forced Schooling John Taylor

www.youtube.com...

Human Resources: Gatto explains the seedy origin of public education-indoctrination

www.youtube.com...

This is simply the transhumanist/crypto-eugenics equivalent of "poisoning the well".
Rockafellers, Carnegies, Russels and all the other "foundations for the arts and education" were rotten from their inception and designed to keep the public stupid and incapable of critical thinking so they wouldn't be a threat to the globalists or their plans.

I think that's enough food for thought for one day.
Prepare for incoming trolls in 3...2...1...

-Amitaba-



posted on Nov, 16 2013 @ 11:51 PM
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Now, I might be mistaken, but I just don't see the relationship between transhumanism and eugenics. Not sure where that accusation comes from, and how it became so common. I don't think I've ever heard a transhumanist openly advocate that practice. Quite the contrary. After all, eugenics is enforced natural selection, and to the transhumanist mindset, the very idea of natural selection is obsolete. By and large, transhumanists believe that evolution will become entirely man-made, achieved through technology rather than biology or social practices. Why care about birth defects when you can get cybernetic organs? Why care about degenerative diseases when you can regenerate your organism? It's pointless. Why would they have any interest for that discipline?

I'm probably going to receive a lot of flak for saying this, but wasn't it the humanist movement, and not the transhumanists, who were once vocal proponents of eugenics? Hell, many of them still seem to be, because that issue rears its ugly head once in a while on their forums...



posted on Nov, 17 2013 @ 06:46 AM
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Cathcart
Now, I might be mistaken, but I just don't see the relationship between transhumanism and eugenics.


Wrong.



-Peace-



posted on Dec, 6 2013 @ 08:16 PM
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Someone watches way too many youtube videos that provide zero evidence, but a lot of doom porn. Good luck with all that.

Yes, this is all I have to contribute, I don't need to refute anything you've posted, all of it already has been dis-proven if you actually cared to do some research, instead of reading websites that feed into your psychosis.



posted on Dec, 6 2013 @ 11:08 PM
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tigpoppa
wait wait wait...
are people saying GMO seeds are bad?
not only is that ridiculous but it seems a pretty odd argument only because those people would starve to death otherwise, so wouldnt denying them seeds be what population control people would want? So these GMO hating people want people starving to death and dead? Im pretty sure the people who have food to eat would rather not be dead...
this conspiracy must be deep, even the people who hate GMO products must secretly all be in league with the cabal of these population control zealots because in truth they want all those people to starve to death dead and dying. Its the anti GMO people that hate human life if that is the subject being discussed.


1)
TerminAtor seeds . . . . .

It is enAbles those in control of the production of the seeds to exert totAl control of A populAtion through restricting Access to A fundAmentAl neccesity of life, thAt being food.

I don't know About you but I certAinly do not like the ideA of conArgA or monsAnto hAving direct control of who cAn And cAn't produce food.

2)
TrAnshumAnism certAinly does mAke one think About how those who refuse to "mod" themselves will be treAted by those who do. EspeciAlly when trAnshumAnists Are billing their product As mAking "better" humAns.

It reAlly drAws strong similArities to the mindset which wAs embrAced by eugenicists in thAt some people will be considered "better" or "superior" to others. The rhetoric espoused by trAnshumAnists is truly not much different thAn Hitler's rAce of "super men" (AryAns).

Further the tAlk of becoming gods Among noted trAnshumAnists gives further incite into the stAte of mind of its supporters. People with god complexes hAve A tendency to get involved in humAnitAriAn nightmAres.

-FBB

PS- I need A new key boArd As the A key only works when I cApitAlize it.



posted on Dec, 7 2013 @ 10:53 AM
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FriedBabelBroccoli


PS- I need A new key boArd As the A key only works when I cApitAlize it.


How do we know you aren't trying to trip someone's mind control programming sequence???






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