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Domo1
Am I reading some of these replies correctly? Pissed that sick people might be able to go to the doctor and you might have to wait an extra few days? That's low. I have rarely ever had an issue scheduling a doctors appointment within a few hours of my call, and more rarely ever had to wait a full day.
There are a lot of things to be mad about with Obamacare, but treating your neighbors and friends shouldn't be one of them.
Medicare
ObamaCare cuts a half-trillion dollars from Medicare over the next decade. These cuts are unsustainable and will lead to a reduction in the quality of care for seniors who rely on the program to secure access to needed medical services. The cuts in Medicare Advantage will impose steep costs on millions of Medicare beneficiaries, and will fall disproportionately on low income and minority seniors.
Across-The-Board Cuts
Congress has tried many times over the years to control costs in Medicare with across-the-board cuts in Medicare’s payment rates for services, and they’ve always failed. Price controls don’t control the volume of services used by patients, and every time Congress cuts fees, the rising use of services pushes total costs upward despite the per service payment cuts. ObamaCare uses this same flawed strategy of paying health care providers even less money for treatments, even though Medicare payments are already so low that many doctors don’t accept new Medicare patients. The official Medicare actuaries have determined that approximately 15 percent of hospitals will be driven out of business in less than ten years if these cuts go through and called the cuts “clearly unworkable and almost certain to be overridden by Congress.”
Domo1
Am I reading some of these replies correctly? Pissed that sick people might be able to go to the doctor and you might have to wait an extra few days? That's low. I have rarely ever had an issue scheduling a doctors appointment within a few hours of my call, and more rarely ever had to wait a full day.
There are a lot of things to be mad about with Obamacare, but treating your neighbors and friends shouldn't be one of them.
Where is the outrage? How long will these criminals continue to destroy the American way of life? Do these numbers look like anything that resembles a positive future for healthcare or for the working class?
One bizarre feature of the Senate-passed health care bill is its pervasive bias against marriage. Under the bill, couples would face massive financial penalties if they marry or remain married. Conversely, couples who cohabit without marriage are given highly preferential financial treatment. If the Senate bill becomes law, saying “I do” would cost some couples over $10,000 per year.
The stiff anti-marriage penalties and heavy “cohabitation bonuses” built into the Senate Obamacare bill send a negative social message. In addition, the bill creates large incentives for couples to “game the system,” allowing and encouraging them to reap large financial rewards by living together rather than marrying.
The “easiest” solution would be to avoid the “wedding tax” entirely by getting divorced while still living together.
Instead of facing an exorbitant premium increase once their combined earnings hits $62,041 if they were to stay married, each cohabiting adult can earn up to $45,960 before Obamacare’s “tax credit”-free premiums kick in. Their annual after-tax savings at age 60 if they shack up and keep their individual earnings between $31,021 and $45,960 will range from $7,650 to over $11,000. The annual savings will slightly increase every year until Medicare kicks in at age 65. That kind of money can buy a lot of gifts for the grandkids.
But the grandkids will also face the prospect of seeing their moms and dads divorce because of Obamacare.
Wrabbit2000
reply to post by antar
Last I checked, Missouri law still outlawed any state agency cooperation with the exchanges on any level. I haven't seen the Statehouse change that and as I recall, they kinda laughed when Nixon asked them to. We sure haven't voted on a change, which was the only other provision allowing exception as I recall what I voted on.
So I'm not sure where that leaves us in Missouri. The Roberts Super Court decision says they cannot alter to reduce medicare/medicaid benefits into our state as a result of our lack of cooperation with their scam ..but how that plays out now for real is what the big question has been I think.
We're all about to find out together what happens when push meets shove.
Cabin
reply to post by antar
There should be no individual plans. Everybody should pay the same % from their salary and finito, which would cover everything for everybody, whether they work or not + kids dental care + either discount or free of charge medicines for genetic diseases + certain other diseases . Doctors visits would take a slight visitation fee, more of a symbolic amount like 10 dollars for the first visit - no extra costs for surgeries. No treatment should cost over couple of hundred dollars total by the end, including cancer and other tougher treatments. Just an illness like tonsillitis should cost the price of antibiotics (dunno in USA, lets say 20 dollars) + 10 dollars for visitation fee = total 30 dollars.
That is a system that would work far better as many other advanced countries have proved due to middle men gone - especially the insurance companies.
Currently one of the reasons which also drives the prices up is the regulations. The more individual plans, the more regulations there are, the more people are needed to administrate these, which drives the costs up. Simple works best for the society as a whole when it comes to healthcare, although certain people would lose their profits, but making profit on the expense of others health troubles is simply wrong.
Overally I see Obamacare a step closer towards a system like that. In the current situation in US, it would be impossible to implement such system - one hund there is the individualistic culture, which is stopping it, on the other hand there is the insurance industry. Implementing such system, even though it would be the right decision in the long run, would be political suicide for the Democrats Party, also it would affect the economy a lot, potentially losing hundreds of thousands if not millions of jobs in the insurance companies (do not know the total number of people working there).edit on 26-9-2013 by Cabin because: (no reason given)
OccamsRazor04
So everyone pay 20%? So if I make $30,000 I pay $6000? If I make $30,000,000 I pay $6,000,000?
Might want to rethink that idea.
I am for a single payer system btw.