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iamhobo
Anyone have an idea as to what the object is moving downward between EROS and ISON?
It's kind of sporadic but follows a path. I can't tell if it's another space rock or a lens artifact.
But if you’re one of the tin foil hat wearing, conspiracy theory believing, X Files obsessed, fruit loop “The End Is Nigh!” nutters who lives in their parents’ basement and spends hours reading about Mayan Calendars, UFOs, Moon Landing Hoaxes and the like, this isn’t the blog for you. Kindly leave. No, really, I mean it. See that red “X” at the top right of the page? Click on it and **** off. You’re not welcome here.
I can imagine what some of you are thinking now. “That’s a bit harsh, Stu, no need for that.” But I don’t think it is a bit harsh, and this is my blog, my attempt to educate and inform people about ISON, so what I say goes. But it’s not just that. Sadly, nowadays anything a) astronomical and b) rare gets hijacked by a bunch of absolute dribble-drooling crazies nowadays, people with far too much spare time on their hands and, sadly, access to a computer and the internet. These nutters set up a blog, a Twitter account or a YouTube channel and any new discovery – a comet, asteroid, whatever – is quickly kidnapped by them and heralded as proof that the world is going to end, or that God is angry with us, or both! It’s bizarre.
These people actually seem to relish the thought of billions of people dying and human civilization being wiped out, and are even disappointed when it doesn’t happen! Take all that Mayan crap at the end of last year. It was always rubbish – the Mayans never predicted the end of the world, it was modern 21st century idiots who twisted the whole calendar thing into something stupid – and when the world didn’t end on the day it was predicted to they all backtracked, insisting the calculations were wrong, or the translation was wrong. Doomsday was just delayed, not cancelled.
That’s a pretty exciting prospect for comet observers. But what caught my eye was what we have a chance of seeing a month earlier, before dawn on the morning of November 9th. Given clear skies, and a lot of luck, we have a chance of seeing a veritable “Comet Convoy” as 3 comets line up with Mars and Jupiter in the south east before sunrise…
When Earth passes through the debris stream, we will encounter two populations of comet dust. One swarm of dust will be following the Comet ISON into the sun. Another swarm will be moving in the opposite direction, pushed away from the sun by solar radiation pressure. The streams will pepper opposite sides of Earth simultaneously.
"In my experience, this kind of double whammy is unprecedented," says Wiegert.
"For several days around January 12, 2014, Earth will pass through a stream of fine-grained debris from Comet ISON," says Wiegert. "The resulting shower could have some interesting properties.
According to Wiegert's computer models, the debris stream is populated with extremely tiny grains of dust, no more than a few microns wide, pushed toward Earth by the gentle radiation pressure of the sun. They will be hitting at a speed of 56 km/s or 125,000 mph. Because the particles are so small, Earth’s upper atmosphere will rapidly slow them to a stop.
"Instead of burning up in a flash of light, they will drift gently down to the Earth below," he says.
Don’t expect to notice. The invisible rain of comet dust, if it occurs, would be very slow. It can take months or even years for fine dust to settle out of the high atmosphere.
Tsu322
reply to post by cheesy
Thank you cheesy.
When I see the picture I see dark rain falling heavy from the two comets. Maybe this is how the disease arrives on earth? Bacteria on small rocks? Poison liquid rain? From one comet or the other?
Have you come across this thread? The image would also fit well here.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
PS, did you enjoy the Mother Shipton thread? To me, it is all fitting together and makes it all more exciting.
thedoctorswife
Cheesy, I have to say, what you lack in English grammar you certainly make up in thread creation and design, your embeds are outstanding. Your a true asset to the site, and you have a great sense of humour, I love your cheesy comet.
Keep up the good work, another great thread. s+f.
Starwise
reply to post by cheesy
Nice find Cheesy
I am so interested in this fly by near Mars. I wish I had another telescope to observe myself, but alas, I only have binoculars at this time.
I found an interesting blog about the trajectory. This man tells it how it is and he calls everyone conspiracy nuts!! I would not be surprised if he was a lurker here on ATS! Yes he is rather harsh but funny nonetheless.
But if you’re one of the tin foil hat wearing, conspiracy theory believing, X Files obsessed, fruit loop “The End Is Nigh!” nutters who lives in their parents’ basement and spends hours reading about Mayan Calendars, UFOs, Moon Landing Hoaxes and the like, this isn’t the blog for you. Kindly leave. No, really, I mean it. See that red “X” at the top right of the page? Click on it and **** off. You’re not welcome here.
I can imagine what some of you are thinking now. “That’s a bit harsh, Stu, no need for that.” But I don’t think it is a bit harsh, and this is my blog, my attempt to educate and inform people about ISON, so what I say goes. But it’s not just that. Sadly, nowadays anything a) astronomical and b) rare gets hijacked by a bunch of absolute dribble-drooling crazies nowadays, people with far too much spare time on their hands and, sadly, access to a computer and the internet. These nutters set up a blog, a Twitter account or a YouTube channel and any new discovery – a comet, asteroid, whatever – is quickly kidnapped by them and heralded as proof that the world is going to end, or that God is angry with us, or both! It’s bizarre.
These people actually seem to relish the thought of billions of people dying and human civilization being wiped out, and are even disappointed when it doesn’t happen! Take all that Mayan crap at the end of last year. It was always rubbish – the Mayans never predicted the end of the world, it was modern 21st century idiots who twisted the whole calendar thing into something stupid – and when the world didn’t end on the day it was predicted to they all backtracked, insisting the calculations were wrong, or the translation was wrong. Doomsday was just delayed, not cancelled.
Waiting For Ison
Soylent Green Is People
Comet C/2012 S1 (ISON) and the asteroid Eros may appear to be moving together, but their orbits are quite different. They are appearing to be moving together currently, but only from our point of view here on Earth.
So I guess the OP's title that says ISON and Eros are "moving together in the sky" is accurate, but to clarify -- they are not moving together in space.
Below is the orbit and current position of Eros:
And the orbit and current position of comet C/2012 S1 (ISON):
edit on 9/25/2013 by Soylent Green Is People because: (no reason given)
cheesy
...where i can get that orbital diagram sir?
cheesy
StealthyKat
reply to post by cheesy
Cheesy....will you marry me?
No..i am to "Big" for ya..