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reply to post by kudegras
but gun crimes in america are substantially less in areas with less restrictions on owning a firearm. there are no drive bys because one shot and the car stops dead, the shooters won't know where the shot came from and they can all be taken out beyond the range of their guns with better trigger discipline. if people know how to use guns properly, keep them handy, and know how to defend, and have basic tactical knowledge, survival skills instead of playing grand theft auto all day, even if the odds are 5 to 1 in the enemies favor no enemy could make it to the beach. the responsibility of home defense, self defense, and defense of the defenseless are the responsibility of all able bodied men and women, harnessing flesh, fire, and steel. why is it that in my part of america there has never been a mass shooting? every truck has a few rifles in it. if shots are fired, with shots they are answered. what do you think of the police in Australia? are they corrupt in larger cities? how ridiculous are the laws? are Australians allowed to question the carbon tax without huge fines? how does gun restriction fit in with darwins self preservation?
reply to post by Unrealised
Dont need to make them when you have them ready to go in your kitchen, but making it illegal to carry them puts a bit of fear into most people, which in this case fear is good. And I understand how controlled we have become but if it saves my eighteen your old daughters life I am all for it.
reply to post by Unrealised
I stand corrected. It is per 100,000 people.
No no nooooo!!
Do not allow yourself to stand corrected!!
The premise of your OP is correct!!
In the footnotes there is no reference to Explanatory Note #17.
Your figures are correct per population... so we have 17475 sexual assualts per 100 000 then??
ABS gets their statistics from the state government who are very well known to fudge the figures to make themselves look good.
With these fudged figures the Australian government wouldn't give the states enough money for policing & states had to rely on themselves for the cash so is backfiring on them.
44 per 100,000 maybe they were just counting the Merrylands NSW region that year.
I have a lot of friends in NSW police force & they are saying gun crime is spirlling out of control as they have very limited resources and manpower.
Also they tell me (& I have asked friends of ours that are doctors & nurses) you are more likely to live from a gunshot wound then a knife wound. A gun shot wound is normally very clean because the bullet is hot whereas a knife has jagged edges & if the person turns it they have no hope in repairing the damage.
Gun control is not the answer in the US, more people died from being hit with a hammer than died from a gun. So maybe they should outlaw hammers while they are at it.edit on 24-9-2013 by Oneggod because: (no reason given)
reply to post by ChuckNasty
The fudge all the figures, serious crime is underestimated & petty crime is overestimated.
That's a set of statistics for Australia to be proud of.
America is a different place. Quite exceptional in many respects.
America is always looking with an open mind for solutions to it's violent, militaristic culture.
Looking for solutions... That include MOAR GUNZZZZZZZZ!