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OneManArmy
I think its a matter of balance. Yes Im all for personal responsibility. But at the same time, I would like to look out for the elderly, the recently unemployed, the disabled, the injured war veterans, the orphaned and abandoned children. Its a bit hard for them to be as "personally responsible" as the able.
But they are the ones that inevitably suffer as a result of the selfish attitudes of those that cry personal responsibility to remove themselves from the suffering of others, and that is truly sad.
beezzer
OneManArmy
I think its a matter of balance. Yes Im all for personal responsibility. But at the same time, I would like to look out for the elderly, the recently unemployed, the disabled, the injured war veterans, the orphaned and abandoned children. Its a bit hard for them to be as "personally responsible" as the able.
But they are the ones that inevitably suffer as a result of the selfish attitudes of those that cry personal responsibility to remove themselves from the suffering of others, and that is truly sad.
I would like to look out for. . . .
Not government.
We, as a culture, have abdicated our responsibility to look out for those that can't take care of themselves. Government has jumped into the role as care giver with wild abandon in order to seize more power.
And we, as a culture, have ceded our own responsibility.
beezzer
OneManArmy
I think its a matter of balance. Yes Im all for personal responsibility. But at the same time, I would like to look out for the elderly, the recently unemployed, the disabled, the injured war veterans, the orphaned and abandoned children. Its a bit hard for them to be as "personally responsible" as the able.
But they are the ones that inevitably suffer as a result of the selfish attitudes of those that cry personal responsibility to remove themselves from the suffering of others, and that is truly sad.
I would like to look out for. . . .
Not government.
We, as a culture, have abdicated our responsibility to look out for those that can't take care of themselves. Government has jumped into the role as care giver with wild abandon in order to seize more power.
And we, as a culture, have ceded our own responsibility.
OrphanApology
Healthcare does not equal health insurance.
OneManArmy
OrphanApology
Healthcare does not equal health insurance.
Im sorry for my misunderstanding, things work completely differently here in the UK due to the national health service.
TDawgRex
reply to post by seeker1963
This thread reminds me of the "Paid Government shill" thread a couple days back.
All I really see is a child that is pissed because they are not getting their way. Welcome to the real world.
Did ya see Pelosi's remark today that "This is a wolf in wolves clothing."?
It's been funny listening to all the whining today.
OneManArmy
We are where we are, we cannot just abandon those that have become dependent on the state.
Willtell
The “government” is supposed to be WE THE PEOPLE.
WE THE PEOPLE supposed to take care of each other through a representative government of compassion and care for ALL in this great country.
The constitution says that the government takes care of the General welfare of the country.
The human race has evolved to a condition where organized health care is or should be free for all and not subject to economic vagaries where people will in this industrialized modern society die because they can’t afford health care.
neo96
It is also since the 'great society' began that more people are dependent upon government and it's 'benevolence' than ever before in this entire countries history.
Willtell
reply to post by OrphanApology
The mechanism for health care—has evolved in USA—to be administered through insurance because of the economic reality of the health care system.
That’s why only millionaires and billionaires can only pay for health care out of their pockets and don’t have to have insurance.
The best solution was the public option or single payer like Canada where everyone would have gotten covered equally.
But Obama is a corporate democrat just a little better than the anti-human republicans and therefore went for an Insurance based system, that BTW, I don’t like either. But what is the alternative to the old system? These stupid and antihuman politicians won’t do the right thing and bring America along with all civilized societies and give cheap universal care to all Free.
We demand that there be a legal campaign against those who propagate deliberate political lies and disseminate them through the press.
We wage war against the corrupt parliamentary administration whereby men are appointed to posts by favor of the party without regard to character and fitness.
The first duty of every citizen must be to work mentally or physically.
The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation.
crazyewok
The American healthcare system is absolute crap unlessyour rich.
BUT
Obamacare is even crapper.
It liked they picked the most expensive mosr inefficiant way to solve the health care problem!
links234
reply to post by greencmp
First; NAZI's? Really? We're only on page two.
Second; I don't think you really want to start this argument when that same list contains:
We demand that there be a legal campaign against those who propagate deliberate political lies and disseminate them through the press.
Do you listen to the mainstream media? They just parrot whatever the administration tells them to!
We wage war against the corrupt parliamentary administration whereby men are appointed to posts by favor of the party without regard to character and fitness.
How many czars has Obama appointed so far? Thirty eight!
The first duty of every citizen must be to work mentally or physically.
No more welfare!
Third; Are you trying to tell me that FDR was a NAZI?
The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation.
That sounds a lot like, "Every citizen shall have the possibility of living decently and earning a livelihood."