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OrphanApology
Greatest I am
buster2010
reply to post by Greatest I am
If churches paid their share then perhaps fewer would be there to beg from them.
And if the government did theirs jobs then maybe there wouldn't be as many people needing a hand out. Like cutting off the corporate welfare for companies that move jobs overseas why should our tax dollars help multinational corporations. They would get more taxes out of this than going after churches.
Why exempt the churches. Why not get both of those tax hogs or skippers?
Regards
DL
Or we could just get rid of the taxes...problem solved.
adjensen
reply to post by Greatest I am
An atheist thinks that churches are under taxed?
Stop the presses, there's some real news!
adjensen
reply to post by Greatest I am
Yes, along with those immoral people at the Red Cross, American Cancer Society and the Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason and Science, lol.
How much money do you think that Catholic Charities USA spends a year in their charitable programs? In 2008, it was eight billion dollars, billion with a "b". But I guess it would be better for them to give that money to the government to whiz away on bombs and stuff, rather than giving it to the poor, eh?
guitarplayer
reply to post by Greatest I am
Here is a list of 501c3
501(c)(3) — Religious, Educational, Charitable, Scientific, Literary, Testing for Public Safety, to Foster National or International Amateur Sports Competition, or Prevention of Cruelty to Children or Animals Organizations
So if you want to make the churches pay then all these should pay too unless you are just a religious hater.
NthOther
The biggest religion of all, and the largest recipient of government subsidies among them, is Science. Creationist/intelligent design religions are being discriminated against by not receiving an equal amount of funding. Violates the 1st and 14th Amendments.
If you don't think science is a religion, consider your reaction to what I just wrote.
Greatest I am
adjensen
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Yes, along with those immoral people at the Red Cross, American Cancer Society and the Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason and Science, lol.
How much money do you think that Catholic Charities USA spends a year in their charitable programs? In 2008, it was eight billion dollars, billion with a "b". But I guess it would be better for them to give that money to the government to whiz away on bombs and stuff, rather than giving it to the poor, eh?
Absolutely because their exemptions and write offs cost us 71 b for billion.
adjensen
Greatest I am
adjensen
reply to post by Greatest I am
Yes, along with those immoral people at the Red Cross, American Cancer Society and the Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason and Science, lol.
How much money do you think that Catholic Charities USA spends a year in their charitable programs? In 2008, it was eight billion dollars, billion with a "b". But I guess it would be better for them to give that money to the government to whiz away on bombs and stuff, rather than giving it to the poor, eh?
Absolutely because their exemptions and write offs cost us 71 b for billion.
Once again, DL, you seem to be of the delusion that your opinion, and that of "The Friendly Atheist" (a misnomer, if ever there was one -- Hemant is one of the biggest d-bags on the planet,) are the only ones that matter -- you like this charity, they deserve an exemption; you don't like this charity, they don't.
Let us know when you're named Emperor of the Galaxy, and then maybe your sad little myopic opinion might matter. Until then, no one cares.
Greatest I am
Many care and that is why religions are shrinking and losing power as we speak.
adjensen
Greatest I am
Many care and that is why religions are shrinking and losing power as we speak.
People are leaving religions because they are getting tax exemptions? M'okay, not sure the facts bear that out, though.
Once again, do you believe that tax exempt status should be revoked for the Red Cross, the American Cancer Society and the Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason and Science, as well as all other charitable organizations?
Greatest I am
adjensen
Greatest I am
Many care and that is why religions are shrinking and losing power as we speak.
People are leaving religions because they are getting tax exemptions? M'okay, not sure the facts bear that out, though.
Once again, do you believe that tax exempt status should be revoked for the Red Cross, the American Cancer Society and the Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason and Science, as well as all other charitable organizations?
No bona fide or non-profit charity should be denied whatever concessions we have in place.
Those that have institutionalized lying to people for their donations should lose any benefits that their lies have brought them. lie as a part of
adjensen
Greatest I am
adjensen
Greatest I am
Many care and that is why religions are shrinking and losing power as we speak.
People are leaving religions because they are getting tax exemptions? M'okay, not sure the facts bear that out, though.
Once again, do you believe that tax exempt status should be revoked for the Red Cross, the American Cancer Society and the Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason and Science, as well as all other charitable organizations?
No bona fide or non-profit charity should be denied whatever concessions we have in place.
Those that have institutionalized lying to people for their donations should lose any benefits that their lies have brought them. lie as a part of
Huh? You kind of lost me there.
However, I don't understand what "institutionalized lying" means. I give a lot of money to charities, so I get a lot of charities asking me for money and I see a lot of different approaches. Habitat for Humanity sends me a TON of mailings, at least one a week, sometimes two, they send me packages of blank greeting cards, they send me calendars, they send me all sorts of junk. I no longer give them money, because I figure the money I send them is mostly going to be used to send me more junk, instead of building houses for the homeless.
Is that what you're talking about? If so, I'm not sure that I would disagree.
ReturnoftheSonofNothing
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Good OP.
"Tax the churches. Tax the property that belongs to the churches." -- Frank Zappa.
Take 5 different churches who all claim an exclusive God. You do not have to be a rocket scientist to know for sure that at least 4 of those 5 churches are lying. Right?
adjensen
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Take 5 different churches who all claim an exclusive God. You do not have to be a rocket scientist to know for sure that at least 4 of those 5 churches are lying. Right?
No, lying would be knowing that one did not have the right picture of God, but saying that they did, and that's not the case -- all five think that they're 100% right, so it's not a matter of lying if they say that they have the right perspective and everyone else is wrong.