reply to post by tinner07
what it is. In Norway (where I'm currently located), there were discussions about ending disability pensions due to the
influx of immigrants who are "helped" by doctors from the same countries they're from so they'd get disability even though they were fully able to
Here's a story about a woman nearing her 50's that I know.
Back in 2004, she met a man from Egypt. During their time together, Selim (his name) wanted to get disability seeing his girlfriend (my landlord) had
it. She has some kind of arthritis that people usually get when they're much older, it's a degenerative problem and she's had a hip replaced and
sincerely cannot work. Her hands, ankles and other parts often swell up leaving her unable to do much.
Selim was working full time, he quit his job and got an undocumented job at a local fast food store. (This store often employs illegals and others
under the table and is run by non-western immigrants.) After six months of working and living on social welfare doubling up his monthly "salary",
he found a doctor from Cairo. She (the doctor) helped Selim get disability due to "mental issues". He pulls in around 12000 Norwegian kroner
monthly through disability and another 8000 kroner through undocumented work, which he continues to do.
Shortly after he received disability, he broke up with his girlfriend. He can now move anywhere he'd like in the world and continue to receive the
12000 kroner from the Norwegian government. That's why disability is a very sought after pension by immigrants. They can come to Norway from a poor
country, get disability and than move back to their country of origin and "live like kings".
His now ex girlfriend has tried several times to get him busted by reporting him to skatte etaten (not sure what it's called in English, I believe
it's the Norwegian version of the IRS) but they say they do not have the resources to check up on the claim.
So instead of removing the possibility for immigrants to get disability, they'd rather take it all away, even from people who CANNOT.WORK. Some
Norwegians call people like Selim "lykke jegere" (happiness hunters) due to the fact that they come to Norway, throw their passports away and become
undocumented immigrants so Norway can't throw them out. Once they're here for good, they than get social welfare and eventually try to get
You'd be surprised by how many immigrants come to Norway who refuse to learn the language (I met a guy here early on during Norwegian classes who
couldn't speak a lick of Norwegian despite living in Norway for SEVEN years!) and thus cannot work forcing the Norwegian government to give them
Depending on community, social welfare pays out roughly 4500 kroners monthly. More if you have a spouse and children. Electricity and apartments are
also paid for by the government. Even women who are not Norwegian citizens get a payout when they give birth. This is over 20000 kroner per
So is it a wonder places like Denmark, Sweden and Norway become such high profile targets for these "happiness hunters"? Of course not, what IS
surprising though is that the Norwegian government allows it. Some more information pertinent to the discussion is how many immigrants severely
misuse welfare even though THEY.OWN.BUSINESSES. I also knew Selim for a while, he was open about how all this was done and suggested I too
What happens is that the owners of these businesses stay on welfare, but get cousins and other family members to come to Norway and become
undocumented immigrants. Once they're settled and get work visa, they'll put their cousin (or whoever) as an owner of the company. The guy
doesn't have to do anything, except get paid for being a name on a paper. They'll do this as long as their money lasts. There were a couple of
these stores in Oslo a couple of years ago that were exposed.
It's insanity if you ask me and a prime example of these countries digging their own financial graves.