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The Marlboro Man--The Iraq War "Poster Boy"

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posted on Nov, 14 2004 @ 02:16 PM
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Don't forget to add the 'hooded man' to that poster boy photo album





posted on Nov, 14 2004 @ 02:22 PM
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Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
It grieves me greatly that someone like you actually enjoys the freedoms of our great nation. It is even more disgraceful that you are a school teacher. Your avatar disgraces the Corps and and our uniform.


What you going to do about it you want to fill your post with propaganda and pictures that are not what the truth is, the only here that is a disgrace is you.

My husband served 22 years you only made it to two, and I know others that after vietnam when back and enlisted again,Take your hateful coment and apply them to yourself, you are a disgrace to this country with your coments of hate to anybody here in ATS, you call them names and your tag then cowards and traitors, you have a record all ready Grady, and You know it.

What do you stand for Grady?, do you have anything to stand for, all you have is hate and not feelings.

People are dying in Iraq our troops and inocent civilians and you dare to post propaganda pictures, that are old and nothing to do with the tent cities build for the fallujah residents by US, get down from your clouds and smell the truth.

Your veteran status does not give you the right to insult others including me and my husband's years of service he is a veteran also, only people with nothing to argue for do what you do.

Deny ignorance,

What a pity and Shame.


[edit on 14-11-2004 by marg6043]

[edit on 14-11-2004 by marg6043]



posted on Nov, 14 2004 @ 02:40 PM
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Muy, muy descontento.



posted on Nov, 14 2004 @ 02:44 PM
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marg6043

Gardy has just as much right to post what he wishes as you do. The difference is that he DID serve you did not. And I do not see your husband in here posting his opinions on war and whether he thinks that the Marines are deliberately killing civilians as you seem to believe.

Grady is right, you are wrong.



posted on Nov, 14 2004 @ 02:45 PM
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Originally posted by marg6043
My husband served 22 years you only made it to two


Actually, marg, I served four years active duty and two years inactive Reserves, thus, my six year obligation. During the time that I have been out and eligible, there have been no conflicts which would have benefitted from my re-enlistment.

Frankly, having served my six-year obligation, having served in combat, having come as close to death as one can come without actually succumbing, I have always felt that I did my part.

I have the utmost respect for those who chose to make careers of the armed services and especially the Marine Corps. Without them, those like myself would not have been able to go on with our lives.

What do I stand for, marg? I stand for a lot of things. I stand for honor and integrity. I stand for justice and freedom. I stand for decency and respect. I have served in war time. I defend our Constitution by being a Benefactor Member of the National Rifle Association and making regular donations, as my finances will allow.

I am a Master's level Social Worker who has worked to protect children from abuse and neglect and I have dedicated more than five years of my life to reunifying families torn apart by substance abuse, violence, and mental illness.

I work with children who have learning difficulties and developmental disorders so that they can function at the highest levels of their capacities.

And I stand for the United States of America and the ideals of freedom and liberty that it has championed for over two and a quarter centuries.

I stand for loyalty, marg.

That's what I stand for.



posted on Nov, 14 2004 @ 02:46 PM
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apparently only people who support the war in Iraq are not a disgrace to the American nation.

Sad.

btw, Marlboro man reminds me of Cigarette-smoking man in X-Files.



posted on Nov, 14 2004 @ 02:54 PM
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Edsinger this is not with you,

Grady you insulted my husband years of services and that is something that I will never forget coming from you, I was harsh and I will amid to it editting my post but I mean what I said.

You care not about your coments and to who your direct them.

You enjoy calling others name and using your big superiority ego and your vet status to intimidate them but it does not work with me.

You have an ignore botton use it if you don't like what I post.



posted on Nov, 14 2004 @ 03:01 PM
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Fabulous idea.



posted on Nov, 14 2004 @ 03:02 PM
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Originally posted by marg6043
Grady you insulted my husband years of services

You have an ignore botton use it if you don't like what I post.


This is what I said, marg:


Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
I have the utmost respect for those who chose to make careers of the armed services and especially the Marine Corps. Without them, those like myself would not have been able to go on with our lives.


I have always thought that an ignore button on a site with deny ignorance as a motto was about as oxymoronic as it can get. Who needs it?



posted on Nov, 14 2004 @ 03:11 PM
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Actually Grady I have used it once just to see what it actually does and for you post I still stand behind my views you should see the tent cities build for the residents of fallujah, not only we have degraded them as a nation but also as human beings.

Our present administration did not even though about what the action of invading that country was going to do to the people of that country, I imagine that the next city to be destroying is going to be Mosul, and again will be more "civilians" casualties in the name of "war" and more tents cities to build, what a great way to gain the harts and minds of the people in Iraq.


Take away their dignity and their possessions.

[edit on 14-11-2004 by marg6043]



posted on Nov, 14 2004 @ 03:19 PM
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There is no point in arguing with the ideologically-braindead.

Thus the ignore function. Debate people who are actually interested in debating, rather than advertising their point of view.



posted on Nov, 14 2004 @ 03:27 PM
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Originally posted by Ibn Iblis
There is no point in arguing with the ideologically-braindead.

Thus the ignore function. Debate people who are actually interested in debating, rather than advertising their point of view.


And what a mentality of some when they are faced with the truth.



posted on Nov, 14 2004 @ 04:54 PM
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Marg I dont understand you. If your husband served 22 years, what is his opinion of the war and the way that Islamic Fundentalism is attacking You and your way of life Marg?

Marg, I assume you were against the reagan defense buildup also were you not? Did not like the idea of Pershing II's in Europe? I dunno what you thought then, but now you take the side of peace at all costs and to me that makes what you husband served 22 years for moot. Can you not understand this war is not about oil, McDonalds, and Haliburton. Do you know what Saddam was doing? What he DID? What he was planning? What he was supporting? Let me ask you something then, the Israeli families who lost loved ones in a market to a suicide bomber and got bobmbers family recieves $25k from Saddam. Do you support that also? What was the United States to do? Wait for the UN to do something? Wait until the sanctions were totally disbanded and Saddam gave WMD to AlQeada and blew up some of your relatives?

Lady, you mean well but have no clue as to what is at stake here. I would be very interested in what your husband thinks of these things. At 22 years, he sure saw what the US faced in the world, and I would bet that is why he wore the uniform to protect you and his family.



posted on Nov, 14 2004 @ 05:18 PM
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Edsinger you are as clueless as all the war happy people in this threads, so keep living in the clouds with them, reality will hit you one of this days and I bet you and your war happy friends will not even face ATS anymore.

Ignorance is a bliss, edsinger, you don't even know just like your president what war he is fighting for any more.


I bet you don't even know what our Mr. president is doing anymore, after all he does not have to keep his position for the next eight years only four so he pretty much is doing anything he feels out of his butt to do, and mean while you are here with the rest war happy people backing any deranged agenda he may have.

Edsinger you sound like an old record.



posted on Nov, 14 2004 @ 05:22 PM
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Is that actually a Marlboro, or do Philip Morris just get naming rights on stupid macho images? What tremendous free publicity for cancer sticks and the ailing tobacco industry.



posted on Nov, 14 2004 @ 05:29 PM
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Edsinger, our troops join the armed forces for a lot of reasons. A lot of them join to protect our nation. Very few ever join the armed forces to go invade a country just because the president decides to. Before you decide that we should go to war, consider would is it worth sending soldiers to a country were some are guranteed to be killed. In war everybody loses except the corporations who supply the war. The soldiers on both sides lose, civilians lose, nobody but the suppliers benefit.



posted on Nov, 14 2004 @ 05:31 PM
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Originally posted by MaskedAvatar
Is that actually a Marlboro...?


You didn't bother to read the article did you, Masked One. If you had you might have noticed the second paragraph.



"If you want to write something," he tells an intruding reporter, "tell Marlboro I'm down to four packs and I'm here in Fallouja till who knows when. Maybe they can send some. And they can bring down the price a bit."

www.latimes.com...


But, it didn't stop you from denigrating those who fight for liberty, did it.

[edit on 04/11/14 by GradyPhilpott]



posted on Nov, 14 2004 @ 05:33 PM
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Originally posted by marg6043
Edsinger you are as clueless as all the war happy people in this threads, so keep living in the clouds with them, reality will hit you one of this days and I bet you and your war happy friends will not even face ATS anymore.

Ignorance is a bliss, edsinger, you don't even know just like your president what war he is fighting for any more.


I bet you don't even know what our Mr. president is doing anymore, after all he does not have to keep his position for the next eight years only four so he pretty much is doing anything he feels out of his butt to do, and mean while you are here with the rest war happy people backing any deranged agenda he may have.

Edsinger you sound like an old record.


I am not on a cloud, you must get your head out of the sand. You deny the threat that stares you in the face. I am sure you have children and want them safe.

Do you know of Chamberlain? The British PM? and what he did in 1937?


That is what it is about, same scenario.

You still havent answered what your veteran husband thinks, and by your refusal to answer that I have my answer.



posted on Nov, 14 2004 @ 05:35 PM
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Originally posted by GradyPhilpott

But, it didn't stop you fron denigrating those who fight for liberty, did it.


I love your use of words, Grady, fighting for liberty and denigrating.



posted on Nov, 14 2004 @ 05:42 PM
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Originally posted by cyberdude78
In war everybody loses except the corporations who supply the war. The soldiers on both sides lose, civilians lose, nobody but the suppliers benefit.


The American Revolution lead to the Constitution of the United States and the greatest nation to ever grace the globe.

The War of 1812 ended British interference with US international trade, among other things.

The War of Northern Aggression for all its wrongfulness, did lead to an early end to slavery in the US.

The First World War put an end to German imperialism in Europe.

The Second World War put an end to Fascist Imperialism in Europe and Asia.

The Cold War and the wars in Korea and Vietnam and elsewhere put an end to the expansion of Communism.

The war in the Balkans put an end to ethnic cleansing.

The war on Terrorists, on whatever fronts that might emerge, will if we are diligent, strong and brave has the possibility of making the world safe from this madness. Afghanistan has its first elected leader ever.

Have you not benefitted from war, cyberdude? I think you have.

[edit on 04/11/14 by GradyPhilpott]




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