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reply to post by crazyewok
You can denigrate as you ALWAYS do with people who present FACTS to you. You don't deal with one friggin fact. You spout off your government propaganda and are seen as a liar by those of us who actually spend the time looking up the facts.
Please supply something factual to back up what you are saying for once. That way we can examine it, test it, and verify if it's real or make-believe.
reply to post by crazyewok
Spain and France helped, but we had to fight for OUR freedom. This is why America playing world cop won't do any good because the people will not maintain their own freedom. This thread is all about Americans maintaining our freedom, and without that we are lost. I tell you now, that if Americans are disarmed, your countries will become far more dictatorial than they are now, and you will rue the day you spoke the foolish words you have. Just remember you were warned.
So, since you have not said we should have no guns, just who should have guns in your ever so humble opinion?
sorry for long quote but its from wiki so i dont think they would mind
Classifications of firearms Rifles British law defines a "rifle" as a rifled firearm with a barrel longer than 30 cm, and a total length longer than 60 cm that does not fall under the classification of long-barrelled revolver or pistol. Single-shot, bolt-action, Martini-action, lever-action (also called under-lever action) and revolver rifles and carbines are permitted, with certificate, in any calibre. Self-loading (also known as semi-automatic) or pump-action rifles are only permitted in .22 rimfire calibre. Pistols The 1997 law did not ban pistols as such and was drafted in terms of small firearms:3.2. British law defines a "pistol" as a firearm with a barrel shorter than 30 cm or a total length of less than 60 cm (this definition encompasses revolvers, revolving pistols). Only muzzle-loading pistols—including muzzle-loading revolvers—are permitted; in practice all such firearms use black powder—a Class 1 explosive—as the propellant. Small quantities of muzzle-loading pistols and revolvers in various calibres, which comply with the regulations, are manufactured. All other pistols are prohibited on the UK mainland, with some exceptions such as pistols used for the humane dispatch of injured animals (such as deer) and some historical firearms. Specific models of blank-firing starting pistol that are "readily convertible" to fire live ammunition can also be banned. The Bruni Olympic .380 BBM blank-firing revolver was banned in 2010 on evidence that it was being illegally converted. Long-barrelled revolvers and pistols "Long-barrelled revolvers" and "long-barrelled pistols" meeting specified criteria are not classified as small, and hence prohibited, firearms; it is legal, with a Firearm Certificate, to possess them. The barrel must be at least 30 cm long, and the firearm at least 60 cm long, which can be achieved by having a permanently attached extension to the grip or butt of the firearm. Long-barrelled single-shot firearms of any calibre, and semi-automatic pistols of .22 rimfire calibres, are permitted with FAC. Target pistols Aside from special temporary exemptions for major events such as the 2012 Olympics, pistol shooting for sporting purposes has been effectively banned since 1997. As a result, the GB pistol squad has to practice abroad. A few models of single-shot .22 calibre free pistol, as used in the 50m Olympic 'Free Pistol' match, have been produced to meet the "long-barrelled pistol" conditions. Some free pistols have removable stabiliser bars extending backwards to improve stability; the UK-legal models have been made with non-removable stabilisers to extend the dimensions, instead of contrived and non-functional grip extensions. Examples are the single-shot Pardini K22 Longarm and the Westlake Britarms Long Pistol, a permitted .22LR five-shot semi-automatic pistol.
Doctors have agreed to breach their duty of medical confidentiality to patients who own guns if they fear they have become so seriously mentally ill they may use their weapons on themselves or the public, the Guardian has learned. GPs say they will tell the police if a gun owner's deteriorating health makes him or her a serious danger to the public, without the patient giving consent to their medical privacy being breached. In order for doctors to know which patients have guns, the medical records of patients holding or applying for firearms licences would be "flagged".
reply to post by Bassago
they(the uk) can have hand guns they just have to be large hand guns and not readily concealable,they also have much more access to suppressors(silencers in hollywood)
the British are not as disarmed as we would like to believe what the uk does do is over-legislate the ammunition and amount of ammo that can be possessed in the magazines of fire arms and who can access that ammo.
and www.theguardian.com... talks about how just like in America the mentally ill are not banned from owning guns in the uk just for being mentally ill only being a danger
Doctors have agreed to breach their duty of medical confidentiality to patients who own guns if they fear they have become so seriously mentally ill they may use their weapons on themselves or the public, the Guardian has learned. GPs say they will tell the police if a gun owner's deteriorating health makes him or her a serious danger to the public, without the patient giving consent to their medical privacy being breached. In order for doctors to know which patients have guns, the medical records of patients holding or applying for firearms licences would be "flagged"