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Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
Albert Einstein
As Raw Story noted, the Australian-born pastor was citing an argument creationists often make: science can only be proven if it has been "observed."
The creationists' argument, however, fails to take into account studies showing that evolution can occur in a laboratory setting. The argument also has been roundly discredited by scientists, including Nye, who has addressed such criticisms repeatedly in the past.
"'Creation Science' is not useful, because it can make no successful predictions about nature or the universe," Nye told The Huffington Post in an email last year. "So, it is reasonable to say the expression is an oxymoron, or simply: it's not science. It has no process of observation, hypothesis, experiment, then predicted outcome. A useful theory about time and organisms would make no distinction between 'observational' and 'historical' science."
winofiend
I stopped when the dopey twat said "He doesnt want the truth. It says so in the bible about guys like him."
FlyersFan
Let's get to the meat of this ...
1 - Evolution doesn't disprove God. So those who believe in God shouldn't be all uptight IF science facts point to evolution. God is God and can use any means He wishes in order to create humans, right? So creationists ... why limit God to 'it has to be Adam and Eve'??
2 - I don't know if I agree with Nye about science having to have observation, hypothesis, experiment then predicted outcome. Theoretical Physics can't predict outcomes when discussing string theory and all that heavy stuff .... it really can't. It's just widely guessing. And I consider that science.
3 - Why do people think it has to be one or the other .. creation or evolution ?? There are other ways we could have gotten here.
4 - My opinion - I don't buy evolution. I don't be creationism. I'm going for door #3 .. we were planted here at some point by outside forces. Maybe something (or someone) organic manipulated dna that was already on the planet and got things moving along ....
edit on 9/18/2013 by FlyersFan because: (no reason given)
NoSoup4U
Forget about the religious argument for a moment.
The development of a butterfly defies the evolution theory. An egg is laid. A caterpillar comes out. It roams around for most of its life and then eats 600% over its body weight. Closes itself into a cocoon. It then melts down into complete slime. Two weeks later a completely different insect emerges. My point is, what science tells us should take millions of years only takes two weeks with butterflies.
There is no doubt that all animals have DNA. Think of DNA as the alphabet. DNA does not create new DNA no more than the the alphabet can create new letters. The DNA information is rearranged; not created. Information cannot create new information. It can only be rearranged. Therefore, evolution is just a theory and not fact.
I say that humans have devolved. Industrialization, invention of computers and medicine has actually devolved us. We have lost many survival skills. Don't believe me? Look at all the people who died after Katrina in LA. Many people died by the lack of natural survival skills needed.
Medicine has helped in this devolving too! If the people that have eye problems did not have glasses then they would not be able to easily see to catch food or evade a predator. Therefore, eventually those genes would be weeded out of the gene pool. Medicine has allowed those genes to continue to be passed on through the generations.
Many of the health issues people have is because of the industrialization of the world. We drive instead of walk. We buy our food ready to eat instead of actually growing it. Over 80% of the jobs in the U.S. are service oriented and do not require much exercise. I am sure ya'll see my points.
I just wanted to inject some critical thinking into this thread instead of the status quo anti-religion rants.
solomons path
You clearly don't understand what Evolutionary Theory states or the mechanisms at work. There is no such thing as "devolving". Evolution does not operate with a presupposed "goal" in mind. The issues you mentioned are still evolution and when the time comes that the environment requires those things you claim that we, as humans, have lost . . . those that can't adapt, die out. That's evolution. And, it's a fact. Evolution has and continues to happen. The "theory" is just an overreaching explanation of said "facts".
As far as metamorphisis is concerned . . . they are not different animals. It is the same animal, at different stages of development. Much like maggots to flies, or tadpoles to frogs. That is the way that organism has come to be for an optimal chance at survival . . . and it is obviously working. So, you are wrong about "defying" evolution.
I would reassess your "critical thinking" skills . . .edit on 9/19/13 by solomons path because: (no reason given)
FlyersFan
winofiend
I stopped when the dopey twat said "He doesnt want the truth. It says so in the bible about guys like him."
Circular logic. The bible has to be true because the bible says it's true. I don't know what it is about these organized religions. The Qu'ran kinda says the same thing. Believe it because it says to ... so it must be true.
NoSoup4U
Forget about the religious argument for a moment.
There is no doubt that all animals have DNA. Think of DNA as the alphabet. DNA does not create new DNA no more than the the alphabet can create new letters. The DNA information is rearranged; not created. Information cannot create new information. It can only be rearranged. Therefore, evolution is just a theory and not fact.