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One of the most damning details from the United Nations investigation has to do with where the the sarin-filled artillery shells appear to have been fired from. They appeared to sail in from the northwest – from a part of Damascus that just happens to be tightly controlled by Syrian regime forces and to contain a large Republican Guard base. Human Rights Watch, which conducted its own investigation that concluded that the Assad regime was likely responsible, actually put together this map of the attacks based on the U.N. data. It seems to point pretty squarely to the Assad regime:
"Viewed through a common-sense understanding of the limits and conditions of the battlefield, the rebels could not have done this," he writes. "Claims of rebel culpability are now specious; technically and tactically implausible, they are too outlandish for even a sci-fi script."
— that rebels launched sarin gas at Syrian civilians to provoke a Western response — look a lot harder to defend.
page 22: "As with other sites, the locations have been well travelled by other individuals prior to the arrival of the Mission...During the time spent at these locations, individuals arrived carrying other suspected munitions indicating that
"SUCH POTENTIAL EVIDENCE IS BEING MOVED AND POSSIBLY MANIPULATED".
5.The US government claims to have slam-dunk evidence of where the missiles were fired from. The US government has never claimed any missile was fired from this military complex, or from anywhere near it.
Confirmed chemical weapon attack in east Damascus Ghuta Many killed and many affected Confirmed from field hospitals doctors
I heard the UN investigators were in Syria...if that's true I hope they can find their way there...wishful thinking, I know.
OneManArmy
reply to post by Agent_USA_Supporter
I wish I could understand what you were saying, added to the missing text in the pic posted, Im finding it hard to make sense of what you are saying.
jtma508
reply to post by Agent_USA_Supporter
I've studied both reports. You're misrepresenting the facts as presented. Your conclusions and assertions are disingenuous and intellectually dishonest. Sorry, but this thread violates chapter and verse of 'Deny Ignorance'. Check your facts.
You're misrepresenting the facts as presented.
orry, but this thread violates chapter and verse of 'Deny Ignorance'. Check your facts.
I've studied both reports. You're misrepresenting the facts as presented.
Your conclusions and assertions are disingenuous and intellectually dishonest. Sorry, but this thread violates chapter and verse of 'Deny Ignorance'.
jtma508
reply to post by Agent_USA_Supporter
Notice how no one cares to comment on your thread? It's because it is pointless. There were TWO known, photographed, and identified rockets used in the two attacks: 333mm Falaq-2 (of Iranian design) and Russian made 140mm rockets (M14). Both are KNOWN to be in the possession of the Syrian military. The former photographed on numerous occasions and the latter is a listed munition. Check any number of sources (I suggest Janes) and you'll find the Falaq-2 has a range up to 10.8km and the 140mm (BM-14) has a range of 9.8km.
Accuracy is a non-issue. Rockets are ballistic weapons. The calculations are straightforward. Determine range to target and set elevation accordingly (as with any artillery), adjust azimuth for wind-induced drift, and fire. They are as accurate as conventional artillery. How can you say they 'missed their targets' unless you KNOW what their targets are? It seems to me they were targeting areas of population congregations in those neighborhoods.
As for accusing me of supporting the 'rebels' or of being an 'interventionist' I suggest you offer an apology. Check my numerous posts on this topic and you'll see that --- as usual --- your accusations are spurious and unsubstantiated.
Check my numerous posts on this topic and you'll see that --- as usual --- your accusations are spurious and unsubstantiated.
Accuracy is a non-issue. Rockets are ballistic weapons
It seems to me they were targeting areas of population congregations in those neighborhoods.
There were TWO known, photographed, and identified rockets used in the two attacks: 333mm Falaq-2 (of Iranian design) and Russian made 140mm rockets (M14).
Notice how no one cares to comment on your thread? It's because it is pointless.