Prove that God is not real

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posted on Sep, 18 2013 @ 01:29 PM
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Why in the world would someone ask anyone to disprove god?

I'll use an example:

I claim that a God of good luck exists. Whenever you win the lottery, find money outside, etc; it's because my god blessed you.

You tell me you don't believe in my god.

I tell you "prove me that he is not real"...

How is it possible to prove that my god is not real? It's not possible, it's illogical to ask such question and it's illogical to say that I will believe in my god until someone disproves it.

The burden of proof is upon the one who makes the claim.

If I claim that a god-eating monster exists, should you believe in it until it's disproven?

Or should you take it with a grain of salt until I prove my claim?




posted on Sep, 18 2013 @ 01:34 PM
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reply to post by danielsil18
 


First one to prove a negative wins!!




posted on Sep, 18 2013 @ 01:48 PM
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reply to post by danielsil18
 

It seems to me that this argument or discussion cannot be had betwixt a religious person and an atheist.

First, science should never be used to disprove anything. It's a way of coming to a reasonably sound conclusion based on evidence, facts, and experiments.

Second, religion is not like science. "Accepting Christ into your heart" or "Feeling the Word of God in your soul" or whatever is the phrase of the week are not scientific claims, are not testable, and are completely subjective.

I just don't think we can have this conversation with any amount civility.



posted on Sep, 18 2013 @ 02:05 PM
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I'll give it a go

My first son died from a brain haemorrhage an innocent child

My mother can hardly breathe and just broke her elbow whilst trying to help someone less fortunate

My second niece was dead on the way to hospital after being kicked in the head by a horse whilst trying to help someone

I've had to kill on more than one occasion in order to survive against a religious fanatic

I've died and been brought back as a result of trying to help

And I helped scrape a kid off the side of a truck a couple of months ago because his dad thought seat belts weren't necessary

All of the above apart from me worship your God

I've done nothing but try to be true and honest, work hard, and help others, if that's your God's reward I'll happily pass it along.

And I am still waiting for the email from your God apologising for His mistaken identity


Cody



posted on Sep, 18 2013 @ 02:05 PM
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What someone else thinks about God is up to them. Sure you can share your feelings, as long as you don't get "preachy" but once you get to that level, most will tune you out, so it's a wasted effort. (IMHO) God is a personal thing anyway. Each person who believes has their own relationship with him/her and deals with God in their own way.

But on a side note, please prove I am not a purple ant eater.


(post by AfterInfinity removed for a serious terms and conditions violation)

posted on Sep, 18 2013 @ 02:06 PM
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It's next to impossible to prove that god is not real. We don't actually know what god is, so how can you disprove something if you do not know what it actually is. I tried asking my god to help me win the lotto and he told me I am a winner if I do not play. I still buy tickets for entertainment sometimes, I consider myself lucky if I get my money back.



posted on Sep, 18 2013 @ 02:08 PM
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AfterInfinity
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Where did he come from? Something does not come from nothing. So what made God?


Santa's elves? Maybe he was made in China, everything else seems to be.



posted on Sep, 18 2013 @ 02:10 PM
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Oh no. Not this topic Yet again.

Why do you need to prove or dis prove something that you dont even believe in?


Come on. Let people believe what they want to believe. It's not hurting you is it?

Show a bit of respect guys.
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posted on Sep, 18 2013 @ 02:32 PM
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reply to post by danielsil18
 


Prove that your God is real.



posted on Sep, 18 2013 @ 02:37 PM
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johncarter
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Prove that your God is real.


I don't believe in a god, I was just using an example.



posted on Sep, 18 2013 @ 02:39 PM
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greavsie1971
Oh no. Not this topic Yet again.

Why do you need to prove or dis prove something that you dont even believe in?


Come on. Let people believe what they want to believe. It's not hurting you is it?

Show a bit of respect guys.
edit on 18-9-2013 by greavsie1971 because: (no reason given)


I'm not asking anyone to prove or disprove something.

I'm just showing that it's illogical to ask people to prove that god is not real.



posted on Sep, 18 2013 @ 02:40 PM
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reply to post by cody599
 


I think you should read the content of the OP. Not just the title.



posted on Sep, 18 2013 @ 02:44 PM
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danielsil18

johncarter
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Prove that your God is real.


I don't believe in a god, I was just using an example.


How can you deny something non-existent?
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posted on Sep, 18 2013 @ 02:52 PM
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danielsil18

greavsie1971
Oh no. Not this topic Yet again.

Why do you need to prove or dis prove something that you dont even believe in?


Come on. Let people believe what they want to believe. It's not hurting you is it?

Show a bit of respect guys.
edit on 18-9-2013 by greavsie1971 because: (no reason given)


I'm not asking anyone to prove or disprove something.

I'm just showing that it's illogical to ask people to prove that god is not real.


Who has asked you to prove that?
I believe in God but that would be the last thing I would ask a non believer. It makes no sense. Ive never heard that before.



posted on Sep, 18 2013 @ 02:56 PM
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greavsie1971

danielsil18

greavsie1971
Oh no. Not this topic Yet again.

Why do you need to prove or dis prove something that you dont even believe in?


Come on. Let people believe what they want to believe. It's not hurting you is it?

Show a bit of respect guys.
edit on 18-9-2013 by greavsie1971 because: (no reason given)


I'm not asking anyone to prove or disprove something.

I'm just showing that it's illogical to ask people to prove that god is not real.


Who has asked you to prove that?
I believe in God but that would be the last thing I would ask a non believer. It makes no sense. Ive never heard that before. Sorry if I misunderstood.



clicked quote instead of edit, and have managed to edit my quote????
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edit on 18-9-2013 by greavsie1971 because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 18 2013 @ 03:06 PM
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I'm just showing that it's illogical to ask people to prove that god is not real.


They probably feel it is illogical when others ask them to prove his existence as well.



posted on Sep, 18 2013 @ 03:07 PM
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Who has asked you to prove that?
I believe in God but that would be the last thing I would ask a non believer. It makes no sense. Ive never heard that before.


Many of your brothers and sisters in Christ have asked that question here in these forums.



posted on Sep, 18 2013 @ 03:19 PM
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AfterInfinity
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I'm just showing that it's illogical to ask people to prove that god is not real.


They probably feel it is illogical when others ask them to prove his existence as well.


It is illogical to be honest. It's a belief. I cant prove to anyone what I believe. It's a personal thing. Hopefully you would respect my beliefs as I respect yours. Unfortunately there are a lot of people who like to bash peoples beliefs on ATS, which is disrespectful. Sorry for being a little defensive.



posted on Sep, 18 2013 @ 03:25 PM
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My bad

I did read the whole thread

But got the red mist

Respects

Cody





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