reply to post by AfterInfinity
The bare bones of the matter has finally arrived. The Buddhist concept of suffering (dukkha) conflicts with your core understanding of Taoism or
insults it. So like water you rise up like a wave to crash against it, nullifying it's impact.
The Taoist path resonated with myself once up on a time. All is perfect as it should be in and of itself, without ugly there can be no concept of
beauty, without hate there cannot be love... the world as it is; is in perfect harmony and it is only when we fight against hearing the symphony is
when it becomes an unbearable cacophony.
The two paths share much, this can especially be seen in early Chinese Buddhism called Chan, when Taoist masters left Taoism to become Buddhists and
wrote discourses after becoming Buddhist masters, many bridges of clarity between the two are found. In my early teens I saw these bridges, it was a
major influence that lead me from Taoism exploring into Buddhism myself.
Yes, when describing the path I do generalize a lot. Suffering is suffering... whether rich or poor, happiness is happiness whether young or old.
Rich, poor, young and old are extraneous details. The root issue is the root, covering it up with the dirt of feelings or other labels does not
clearly expose it so it can be fully seen and understood. I point at the root, is it as clear as it could be? No, if it was possible then it would be
possible to enlighten another being.
What you see as arrogance is compassion for you, I took up the path and donned the robe to arrive to the end of the path and enter final para-nirvana
in this very life, there are many branches of Buddhism the one I chose is Theravada, it is direct and to the point a straight arrow to the end of the
path. If I had taken the Mahayana path then, I would not be so firm and direct in my pointing, you would have experienced from me what you have
experienced from other Buddhists. I would be kinder and gentler because I would have to maintain a certain level of kama to ensure an positive
incarnation to come back as a Bodhisattva to do more pointing; and continue this "until every blade of grass is liberated"
Before, I left the monastic order there were two paths I could walk. One stay and help those already on the path seeking liberation; other bhikkhu and
laity. Or the one I chose, to live out in the world with a vow to point directly at the truth by any means necessary that fits the others temperament
and the situation. If I were concerned with more incarnations I would couple empathy with compassion. Empathy is important for a positive rebirth,
letting go and entering into para-nirvana, empathy with others self inflicted suffering when I do not have more incarnations nor desire to grasp for
more of them as a Bodhisattva, is a disservice to my vow of pointing. I point gently, I point forcefully, I point just like water filling the
situation. I can be calm and point, I can be still and not point at all, I can rise up like a wave crashing into the rocks and point.
In this pointing, I will do whatever it takes for one to stop looking at the finger and see the root in the chain of causation that breaking it and
pulling this root out leads to liberation. The root is not out there somewhere, it is within. Liberation, happiness, greed, suffering, empathy, hate,
compassion all of those and more are within oneself, we create them we develop them, we attach to them, we mistake them for the self, we take them to
extremes. In pointing to a large group you cannot be specific hence generalization. You demanded center stage so the pointing was focused on you
fitting the situation and your demeanor.
Not many like a direct pointing, they like a round about pointing so they can extrapolate the meaning to fit it into their delusion... oh this piece
seems to fit that spot in my puzzle I was looking for. A little Wicca here, a little Yoga there, a smidgen of Taoist and a sprinkle of Buddhism or
Christianity there eventually, the whole puzzle will complete. Sure it will, but how many lifetimes is that going to take If liberation is the goal?
Stick to one, and all paths become clear in the end, stick to Wicca and at the end the Buddhist puzzle solves itself. Stick to Taoism and the
Christianity puzzle solves itself. All complete in a perfect picture of the whole, the colors of the different paths on top of the pieces do not solve
the puzzle. Peel the descriptive labels all off and the pieces still fit in the end.
All have have been pointing to is the attachment to the colored paper stuck on top of the puzzle. " It takes pain to understand pain. It takes fear
to understand fear." It also takes their opposite to overcome them. Being enamored with the path is attachment to the path, the colors adorning the
top of the puzzle, by them self? They solve nothing.