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Active Shooter at Washington Navy Yard, Reports of Multiple People Shot

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posted on Sep, 17 2013 @ 06:39 AM
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Foxy1
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ive been working on a patent with the police dept for the last year with a wind resistant canvas attached to 4 tripods to cover up roadside accidental deaths to prevent rubberneckers interested in death and preventing people being to late to work due to sickos slowing down to drink in death.


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posted on Sep, 17 2013 @ 07:02 AM
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do these articles on page 14 of googlesearch mean the article was posted 3 days ago, scroll down and look for 2 NBC links

www.google.com... ngton%20Navy%20Yard%3B%20at%20Least%201%20Victim#psj=1&q=Police,+FBI:+Shooter+Reported+in+Military+Building+at+Washington+Navy+Yard%3B+at+Least+1+Vict im&start=130 (just noticed they have been removed, but I did screengrab them)
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It has Sep 16th as date of the article, but 3 days ago when cached whatever by GS.

I am not very clever, so may be nothing.

In all this confusion, when did the shooting supposedly start, do not know really myself, but found this article, was it up BEFORE the shooting.
i.imgur.com...

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posted on Sep, 17 2013 @ 07:18 AM
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they already have them here in the uk..
infact they have had them for years...



posted on Sep, 17 2013 @ 07:20 AM
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Tracey369
do these articles on page 14 of googlesearch mean the article was posted 3 days ago, scroll down and look for 2 NBC links

www.google.com... ngton%20Navy%20Yard%3B%20at%20Least%201%20Victim#psj=1&q=Police,+FBI:+Shooter+Reported+in+Military+Building+at+Washington+Navy+Yard%3B+at+Least+1+Vict im&start=130 (just noticed they have been removed, but I did screengrab them)
i.imgur.com...
i.imgur.com...

It has Sep 16th as date of the article, but 3 days ago when cached whatever by GS.

I am not very clever, so may be nothing.

In all this confusion, when did the shooting supposedly start, do not know really myself, but found this article, was it up BEFORE the shooting.
i.imgur.com...

i.imgur.com...





posted on Sep, 17 2013 @ 07:56 AM
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ok... Then how would it have helped him get onsite?

I mean it is sounding more and more like there was virtually NO security or that somebody really dropped the ball no matter how you look at it. I don't see how this place in DC could have such lax security when we supposedly have terror threats all around us. I mean wasn't the guy packing 3 pieces?

Including one of these...


I mean if he was not taking in equipment and did not still have a job, how did this get overlooked? What's the point even wondering if he stole an ID or used his own?

We are talking virtually no security at all OR... he had a presumed job to do there, which makes this whole thing even more suspicious.


It probably helped him get onsite by being the ID that he gave the gateguard, yeah. Was there a failure in security that let him onsite? Dont know yet. Although things vary a bit from base to base and location to location, I am pretty familiar with how site access works in general, so I am not willing to make any conclusions on that until I have seen more about the situation surrounding his quitting/firing. There may very well be blame to be pinned on someone, but I just dont want to blame the wrong people.



posted on Sep, 17 2013 @ 07:59 AM
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amraks

Tracey369
do these articles on page 14 of googlesearch mean the article was posted 3 days ago, scroll down and look for 2 NBC links

www.google.com... ngton%20Navy%20Yard%3B%20at%20Least%201%20Victim#psj=1&q=Police,+FBI:+Shooter+Reported+in+Military+Building+at+Washington+Navy+Yard%3B+at+Least+1+Vict im&start=130 (just noticed they have been removed, but I did screengrab them)
i.imgur.com...
i.imgur.com...

It has Sep 16th as date of the article, but 3 days ago when cached whatever by GS.

I am not very clever, so may be nothing.

In all this confusion, when did the shooting supposedly start, do not know really myself, but found this article, was it up BEFORE the shooting.
i.imgur.com...

i.imgur.com...




After Boston, this does not suprise me at all.

-Peace-



posted on Sep, 17 2013 @ 08:12 AM
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So it seems he could get right in and his car was found on site...


The suspect had a security clearance that allowed him onto the Navy Yard as part of his civilian subcontracting work, officials said. Alexis and members of the subcontracting team, according to law enforcement sources, were staying at a Residence Inn about a mile from the Navy Yard. The suspect's car was found on the Washington Navy Yard, law enforcement sources said.

A senior law enforcement official said he used his security clearance to get on campus and it appeared he did not force his way onto the property. Officials were in the process of getting a search warrant to search the vehicle, which was described as a rental car.


and they are stating that they have exhausted the search for a second shooter which does not rule it out but I am sure it will not appear again.


Authorities had earlier said they were searching for a possible second suspect, but officials said at the evening news conference said the search for a black suspect in olive-drab uniform age 40 to 50 has been exhausted.


Another one who was on the radar that was missed....
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posted on Sep, 17 2013 @ 08:24 AM
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The only reason that a second person was still being sought was due to an eyewitness saying they think they saw the guy with a gun around the time of the shooting. There's nothing else indicating that another person was shooting at people.



posted on Sep, 17 2013 @ 08:27 AM
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Maybe they were covering for a botched security guard who shot innocents? The numbers of injuries do not add up properly. The timing of the injuries.



posted on Sep, 17 2013 @ 08:30 AM
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Could a guard have shot an innocent on accident? Entirely possible, but not likely from what I have seen. I may have missed something, but I am not aware of anything at this point that would indicate this happened.



posted on Sep, 17 2013 @ 09:10 AM
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Wrong. They had the person on video. 3 'shooters' were on video as reported in the media. if there is only one, great, glad they shot him in the head. I am just curious that they said exhausted not cleared it. They said they cleared one and the other kind of 'disappeared'....



posted on Sep, 17 2013 @ 09:38 AM
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I was not aware the 3rd guy was on video. I knew the 2nd guy was, and he was cleared of any involvement after they spoke with him late in the afternoon yesterday.

The way that the casualties are concentrated doesnt point to anyone else taking a shot in this, so I'm not terribly concerned with that aspect, but I AM interested in finding out what was going through this guy's head (other than LEO bullets).



posted on Sep, 17 2013 @ 09:45 AM
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and now there is this...you had multiple witnesses who said they he had a rifle and was a poor shot. WIth a shotgun? Down a hallway? I do not think so.

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and who was shooting from the 3rd floor?


It has been called the most popular rifle in America, and it briefly returned to the spotlight after Monday's shooting at the Navy Yard: the AR-15.
A U.S. law enforcement official said Monday that gunman Aaron Alexis unleashed a barrage of bullets using an AR-15, a rifle and a semi-automatic handgun. Authorities believed the AR-15 was used for most of the shooting, the official said. The news prompted Sen. Dianne Feinstein, one of the strongest proponents of a ban on assault weapons like the AR-15, to issue a statement the same day asking, "When will enough be enough?"
However, federal law enforcement sources told CNN Tuesday that authorities have recovered three weapons from the scene of the mass shooting, including one -- a shotgun -- that investigators believe Alexis brought in to the compound. The other two weapons, which sources say were handguns, may have been taken from guards at the Navy complex.
The sources, who have detailed knowledge of the investigation, cautioned that initial information that an AR-15 was used in the shootings may have been incorrect. It is believed that Alexis had rented an AR-15, but returned it before Monday morning's shootings. Authorities are still investigating precisely how many weapons Alexis had access to and when.


Sandy Hook had the missing shotgun...now we have the missing AR. Just what is going on folks. This is a military installation so i would think even civies would now the difference and if not all at least one in a group in the cafeteria.



posted on Sep, 17 2013 @ 09:48 AM
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matafuchs
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Wrong. They had the person on video. 3 'shooters' were on video as reported in the media. if there is only one, great, glad they shot him in the head. I am just curious that they said exhausted not cleared it. They said they cleared one and the other kind of 'disappeared'....



From what I gathered...They had 3 potential shooters..

(1) Aaron Alexis
(2) Man with side-arm, identified by witnesses and validated on security video.
- This man was an armed officer on premise...He never shot anyone, just pulled his side-arm when all hell broke loose and exited the building.
(3) Was a single witness account, not validated through security video and with no other witnesses that were with this person corroborating. Since they can't find a another person to corroborate the claim and video doesn't show this 3rd person/description...and potentially the witness is 'unsure", they suspect it was a confused witness as is likely to happen among hundreds of witnesses in a panic situation.



posted on Sep, 17 2013 @ 09:57 AM
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Yesterday the media reported the shooter used an AR-15 in the rampage. This caused an uproar from gun haters on the left. The FBI today, however, is reporting that no AR-15 was likely used.



posted on Sep, 17 2013 @ 10:02 AM
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Good morning. So what are the people at your work saying? Is everyone alright? How is the mood of the day? Have you been alright?

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posted on Sep, 17 2013 @ 10:05 AM
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Its very quite here. Half the staff took the day off. The line to get on base was long because they were checking for two ID cards.



posted on Sep, 17 2013 @ 10:07 AM
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antonioparis
Yesterday the media reported the shooter used an AR-15 in the rampage. This caused an uproar from gun haters on the left. The FBI today, however, is reporting that no AR-15 was likely used.


Could you provide a link to where the FBI have said that? media in the UK says right now that the shooter had 3 weapons, one of which was an AR-15. It says 'reportedly' which tends to say that at the point of writing there was no full confirmation. If the FBI had said otherwise it would usually state that.

www.bbc.co.uk...



posted on Sep, 17 2013 @ 10:11 AM
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posted on Sep, 17 2013 @ 10:16 AM
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antonioparis
Yesterday the media reported the shooter used an AR-15 in the rampage. This caused an uproar from gun haters on the left. The FBI today, however, is reporting that no AR-15 was likely used.


And this is a good example of why media should avoid pushing out things as "facts" when they are not confirmed.

But regardless, what he started with (a shotgun) and what he ended up with (+2 handguns) was plenty to cause harm.




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