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Active Shooter at Washington Navy Yard, Reports of Multiple People Shot

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posted on Sep, 16 2013 @ 08:30 PM
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This story amazes me along with the shootings at Fort Hood. We got truly whacked out people working for the government... this guy today, clearly had an anger problem that goes back several years, he's been shooting up things and shooting at people for years and he still gets a fine paying job with the government, regardless of his background check.

The guy at Fort Hood was a proven wacko al qaeda operative, yet they don't get fired or even reprimanded. What's wrong with this scenario- Oh, I forgot we sure don't want to do any racial profiling that might save some hardworking people a lot of heartache. If ever right is wrong and wrong is right, it has to be now!

Sick! Sick! Sick!




posted on Sep, 16 2013 @ 08:36 PM
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hurdygurdy

HumanPLC
reply to post by TruthxIsxInxThexMist
 


Yeah Sky News seen to be showing the coverage from Fox News so i assume its live their too.

Im also recording it all because... well as we already know, sometimes stories and accounts can change.

Has anyone noticed that the news broadcasters on Sky (Fox) have already mentioned Syria a few times, they seemed to be saying that due to the naval presence there and the fact it was the Naval Yard targeted this cant be ruled out.

Cant believe they are speculating about something like that with zero evidence.

edit on 16/9/13 by HumanPLC because: (no reason given)


Yes, the media is obviously following a script.

And isn't it odd one of the first posters here sternly warned us not to jump to conclusions but obediently follow the official story...

Why isn't the loss of lives and 1300 missing persons in Colorado at this very moment receiving as much attention?

2 cents.


speaking of following a script... One reporter on fox said that he had never served in combat etc and that the reason he quit a certain position with the navy was that according to his friends, he didn't like getting up early.

so, let me get this straight, they are asking questions like this to the guys friends about a past position... and this just happened today?

They are clearly painting a picture. This is obvious to me at first glance.

Now I don't pretend to know what the hell this guys motives were, but after looking at the original article and scrolling down to see that every other freaking comment is a racist remark... It is just another piece of evidence that somebody is seeding something of a racist agenda within the capital.

I know I sound like a damn broken record but come on... Where are these comments coming from? Why are all these racist and threatening comments being spammed all over the internet but no one is doing anything about it? If you have read some of the downright sick stuff being written on many well known outlets, you'd have to think that somebody would at least track the IPs and block them or disrupt their service etc... something!... because some of it is just sick sick stuff, but whoever is supposed to be handling stuff like that for internet security in this country, is allowing this to happen.

Now I want to know who is in control of that stuff... because even though we are being spied on and our key words are being watched, they let this stuff go on and on without end. That's not a coincidence and I've been saying it over and over.

people need to wake up and face that.

I think seeing as how this guy was in the navy, somebody ought to demand x rays for implants or something because something is just not right about this. That may turn up as nothing but this crap is just getting too weird.

There is a synchronicity here, but how can it be because of anger for a presence in Syria, when we have now backed down (thankfully) Who's getting blamed for that? Obama... and I don't even pretend to understand what he is doing. I think he was always meant to take a fall so I don't know why he goes along with some of the elites plans. I just haven't figured him out yet.

When we have backed away from a strike, now this guy decides to do this? How is that connected?

How could it be that this guy would be more upset about the outcome then, let's say, the men who are pushing for war? They would be the most likely ones to pitch a fit and when they pitch fits, they do it through someone else.

The question is how? Was he going to be paid? was something else going on like brainwashing or maybe even direct energy? Who is going to start taking these investigations to the next level because it's obvious that they are being kept on the child mentality level.... even though they are spending a hell of a lot of tax dollars on brain mapping.

What the hell do we care that the guy said he didn't like getting up early? WHO DOES?

Now everybody who sleeps late is a sorry person and potential threat to society?

maybe they got a mind control weapon that also makes us sleep late so we can't get stuff done and since they've been using it on us, they are going to use the symptom as a new demonization tactic because they know it works. haha!

What a screwed up thing to happen today?

So no violence on 9/11, but now we have violence 5 days later, in DC.

You know what, maybe we should dig into what top navy officials have been saying about current events.
How many top military officials have stepped up and tried to block the globalists plan lately? maybe more than we know. I know it's reaching but why take a shot at the navy right now? Why? I mean from what I'm understanding, he left on his own. What's the issue? Where's the motive?

I would think the motive would lie somewhere else... and motive is key to any crime.

As for colorado and missing people, I will search the forum but if I come up empty handed, please feel free to inform me on whatever the hell is happening in colorado right now. How much weirder and worse is the news going to get today?

At least thousands more didn't die today in a poorly reported landslide or earthquake, because that was becoming pretty common and I was amazed by the overall lack of concern internationally and it's because it wasn't a huge freaking deal to our national agendas.



posted on Sep, 16 2013 @ 08:41 PM
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MyHappyDogShiner
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That pic looks like a stock pic, nobody seems too worried about getting shot, while that guy is lying there after supposedly being shot. It looks like it's either a stock photo or a photo that wasn't pertinent to the event being discussed, those people don't look too worried just standing around like good little targets and all.
Explain why they would use a "stock pic" today and call it a shot of the scene at the Navy Yard. Here's the link. Look at the file name.

media4.s-nbcnews.com...



posted on Sep, 16 2013 @ 08:45 PM
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X rays? nope. there will be no autopsy...just like the Tsarnov suspect.



posted on Sep, 16 2013 @ 08:45 PM
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Looks like he was a disgruntle employee.


Michael Thacker, a spokesman for Hewlett-Packard, confirmed that Alexis worked for a company called "The Experts," a subcontractor working on an HP Enterprise Services job to refresh networking equipment for the Navy Marine Corps intranet. Thacker could not say whether Alexis was still employed by that company at the time of his death. But investigators were looking into claims that he recently lost that position, which they say may have set him off.


This is how he gained access, He has a Contractor CAC, it is the universal ID for military base access. It would be accepted to gain access to any part of the base short of Cypher areas. It has a Green stripe to differentiate between DOD/Military and Contractor. He also would have had a DOD Auto sticker since his job was on-board navy bases.

It would be up to "The Experts" to have retrieve his CAC ID if he was let go, But I know personally that many times the person fired would just leave and not turn in the ID.

By the time he made his way to the building, he was free and clear of initial base security.

My Pryers go out the all that are affected.

Sirric
edit on 16/9/13 by sirric because: sp



posted on Sep, 16 2013 @ 09:19 PM
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I maybe wrong, but these articles were written yesterday?

www.kelownadailycourier.ca...

abcnews.go.com...



posted on Sep, 16 2013 @ 09:24 PM
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CirqueDeTruth
I'm assuming these screen captures were made today and not yesterday, because I'd expect to see some conspiracy threads made yesterday instead of today regarding said find.

You see - photo manipulation is simply to easy - now a days.

Or - considering the way the alternative news sources slams msm sources, perhaps, it's an intentional blurb/typo indicating yesterday's date - just so the msm in the know can sit back and watch us cook up our conspiratal theories. Get their kicks out ta watching us raise the false flag alarm? Maybe?

Where's the threads from yesterday in conspiracy circles on this mysterious misdating? Hmmmm? Where's the threads from yesterday stating - What shooting at the Navy yard?

CdT



I was wondering the same thing. Do these dates represent when the articles were written or when they were posted? If they were posted on the date/time specified, why did nobody pick up that nothing had actually happened yet? I don't just mean here on ATS.

I guess, since they were posted at almost midnight, and the shooting happened in the morning, maybe not many people saw the article before the shooting went down? I'm confused.



posted on Sep, 16 2013 @ 09:39 PM
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Tucket
X rays? nope. there will be no autopsy...just like the Tsarnov suspect.


That ought to be completely illegal. If we have to be subjected to terror threats in the media on a constant basis, they should at least show some integrity of a real investigation. How can any part of a suspect of a crime on the public such as that, be not consider something worthy of evidence. Even if there were no implants there could be some kind of mental disease or virus or something like prions going around making people go crazy and do stuff like this (far fetched, yes, but the body of the suspect is ALL evidence. You don't throw away evidence unless you are hiding a crime. Plus We know there are implants in people and evidence points more to it being done by the US government who is one of the only governments to approve the use of chips in humans for medical use, specifically, veterans hospitals... approved by the FDA, and is one of the only examples of approval I could find and has been in the works since the 70s although disinfo wants to tie chipping to communism.



posted on Sep, 16 2013 @ 09:46 PM
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sirric
Looks like he was a disgruntle employee.


Michael Thacker, a spokesman for Hewlett-Packard, confirmed that Alexis worked for a company called "The Experts," a subcontractor working on an HP Enterprise Services job to refresh networking equipment for the Navy Marine Corps intranet. Thacker could not say whether Alexis was still employed by that company at the time of his death. But investigators were looking into claims that he recently lost that position, which they say may have set him off.


This is how he gained access, He has a Contractor CAC, it is the universal ID for military base access. It would be accepted to gain access to any part of the base short of Cypher areas. It has a Green stripe to differentiate between DOD/Military and Contractor. He also would have had a DOD Auto sticker since his job was on-board navy bases.

It would be up to "The Experts" to have retrieve his CAC ID if he was let go, But I know personally that many times the person fired would just leave and not turn in the ID.

By the time he made his way to the building, he was free and clear of initial base security.

My Pryers go out the all that are affected.

Sirric
edit on 16/9/13 by sirric because: sp


And his code or ID should have been disabled in the system and if he arrived, security should have immediately been there to greet him. The CAC should have contained a chip. I would think any ID used there would have a chip or bar code or something that could set off a computer warning that this person was no longer allowed on site... and working for dod contractors myself, I know the FIRST thing they would do is change the code on the door lock and have to go tell everyone there was a new code because they didn't issue personal cards... but they always did that right after they fired someone. Not within a day or two... immediately after the person was escorted out.



posted on Sep, 16 2013 @ 09:53 PM
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What the hell? You think they would have learned about jumping the gun like that with the sandy hook "mistakes".....

Bah just noticed the pun.... It was not intended.
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posted on Sep, 16 2013 @ 10:02 PM
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MidnightTide
I maybe wrong, but these articles were written yesterday?

www.kelownadailycourier.ca...

abcnews.go.com...


MidnightTide... awesome find!!!

We need to hunt down any and all websites that may have these time stamps. Kelowna Daily Courier is in British Columbia, but that's a 3 hour difference from Washington, DC.

Similar issues were present with Newton, CT. Many of them were erased fairly quickly.



posted on Sep, 16 2013 @ 10:03 PM
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MidnightTide
I maybe wrong, but these articles were written yesterday?

www.kelownadailycourier.ca...

abcnews.go.com...


Okay, is there any computer/internet forensic experts here? Can we confirm that these pages were posted on Sunday, not Monday?

The article(s) both make mention to the events happening Monday.

If there is something fishy going on, do we have anyone here with enough skill and knowledge to find it out?

Otherwise, it seems to me the website(s) calendars are wrong.



posted on Sep, 16 2013 @ 10:18 PM
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When I Google Web Cache the page it now says:
It is a snapshot of the page as it appeared on Sep 16, 2013 23:42:52 GMT.



posted on Sep, 16 2013 @ 10:20 PM
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NotAnAspie

sirric
Looks like he was a disgruntle employee.


Michael Thacker, a spokesman for Hewlett-Packard, confirmed that Alexis worked for a company called "The Experts," a subcontractor working on an HP Enterprise Services job to refresh networking equipment for the Navy Marine Corps intranet. Thacker could not say whether Alexis was still employed by that company at the time of his death. But investigators were looking into claims that he recently lost that position, which they say may have set him off.


This is how he gained access, He has a Contractor CAC, it is the universal ID for military base access. It would be accepted to gain access to any part of the base short of Cypher areas. It has a Green stripe to differentiate between DOD/Military and Contractor. He also would have had a DOD Auto sticker since his job was on-board navy bases.

It would be up to "The Experts" to have retrieve his CAC ID if he was let go, But I know personally that many times the person fired would just leave and not turn in the ID.

By the time he made his way to the building, he was free and clear of initial base security.

My Pryers go out the all that are affected.

Sirric
edit on 16/9/13 by sirric because: sp


And his code or ID should have been disabled in the system and if he arrived, security should have immediately been there to greet him. The CAC should have contained a chip. I would think any ID used there would have a chip or bar code or something that could set off a computer warning that this person was no longer allowed on site... and working for dod contractors myself, I know the FIRST thing they would do is change the code on the door lock and have to go tell everyone there was a new code because they didn't issue personal cards... but they always did that right after they fired someone. Not within a day or two... immediately after the person was escorted out.


Yes, both military and contractor CACs now have embedded chips in them. But one misconception is that these chips are "scanned" in order for you to get on base, but this is not the case. In most cases, when you arrive to the gate at the base, they simply take your CAC, look to make sure it is you, ask you what business you have on base, and let you pass on through. There are times of heightened security when they do random deep dives and car searches, but this is not the norm.

As for not being allowed on site, there wouldnt have been much of a reason for them to look out for him. Unless he was fired for some sort of serious breach of security or gross misconduct, word would not have been put out to all base locations to have them watch for him and stop him at the gate. If they did that every time a contractor gets canned across the country, they would have to increase the number of gateguards tenfold, because most of them would be spending their whole shift just checking lists.



posted on Sep, 16 2013 @ 10:29 PM
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If they had this big scoop they sure did not talk about it on twitter.

twitter.com...

twitter.com...

They mentioned it around 11:30 am for the first time.



posted on Sep, 16 2013 @ 10:37 PM
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flyswatter

NotAnAspie

sirric
Looks like he was a disgruntle employee.


Michael Thacker, a spokesman for Hewlett-Packard, confirmed that Alexis worked for a company called "The Experts," a subcontractor working on an HP Enterprise Services job to refresh networking equipment for the Navy Marine Corps intranet. Thacker could not say whether Alexis was still employed by that company at the time of his death. But investigators were looking into claims that he recently lost that position, which they say may have set him off.


This is how he gained access, He has a Contractor CAC, it is the universal ID for military base access. It would be accepted to gain access to any part of the base short of Cypher areas. It has a Green stripe to differentiate between DOD/Military and Contractor. He also would have had a DOD Auto sticker since his job was on-board navy bases.

It would be up to "The Experts" to have retrieve his CAC ID if he was let go, But I know personally that many times the person fired would just leave and not turn in the ID.

By the time he made his way to the building, he was free and clear of initial base security.

My Pryers go out the all that are affected.

Sirric
edit on 16/9/13 by sirric because: sp


And his code or ID should have been disabled in the system and if he arrived, security should have immediately been there to greet him. The CAC should have contained a chip. I would think any ID used there would have a chip or bar code or something that could set off a computer warning that this person was no longer allowed on site... and working for dod contractors myself, I know the FIRST thing they would do is change the code on the door lock and have to go tell everyone there was a new code because they didn't issue personal cards... but they always did that right after they fired someone. Not within a day or two... immediately after the person was escorted out.


Yes, both military and contractor CACs now have embedded chips in them. But one misconception is that these chips are "scanned" in order for you to get on base, but this is not the case. In most cases, when you arrive to the gate at the base, they simply take your CAC, look to make sure it is you, ask you what business you have on base, and let you pass on through. There are times of heightened security when they do random deep dives and car searches, but this is not the norm.

As for not being allowed on site, there wouldnt have been much of a reason for them to look out for him. Unless he was fired for some sort of serious breach of security or gross misconduct, word would not have been put out to all base locations to have them watch for him and stop him at the gate. If they did that every time a contractor gets canned across the country, they would have to increase the number of gateguards tenfold, because most of them would be spending their whole shift just checking lists.


If all they do is glance at the card, then they are a complete waste. They don't add security in that case, they take security away by giving the card holder a pass... and they have chips in them for nothing if they don't use them.

As for serious breach... in any place I've ever, ever, EVER worked in... if somebody gets fired, it is understood they are going to be pissed off...and security always looks out for them to come back. They escort them all the way out... they don't just let them leave. They may not always (forever) look for that person to come back angry, but especially right after it happens the person didn't have to do anything wrong. They just know they are going to be pissed.

As for the articles... the 2nd one in midnight tdes post said it was created on the 15th, but modified on the 16th. They could have made the page ready for a breaking news article, but they are not supposed to have the wrong date on them. So it could be explainable...although the excuse is a shoddy one unless they are just trying to make the gun toters paranoid...and I am still totally leaning on this possibility because of the other elements of this ordeal.

However, I think it is very strange that even if they had the page ready for an article on the 15th and neglected to change the date that the source code says it was last modified on the 16th at 8:49. This would have given them 29 minutes to find out all the info in that article and report it to the press and have them write the article and publish it... 29 minutes from the first shot fired. I find that kind of remarkable.

This report was made by a defence official who wanted to remain anonymous.

Why is this persons very first thought "hurry up and call the press"...???

Anyway... I'm certainly no expert. I just looked at the code and saw that it had a last modified time on it but I have no idea why their system would not automatically update the date to show the date the publish it on their servers. No idea what so ever. I would think they would have some kind of automatic check on that but perhaps not.

I tend to think someone is jerking our chain and they want us to think it is a conspiracy... and I think it IS a conspiracy, just not the kind of conspiracy they want us to think it is.

That's the ONLY motive I can come up with.

The guy may have been pissed about something, but I think he was set up like a domino if this did in fact occur.
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posted on Sep, 16 2013 @ 10:43 PM
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BE AFRAID

I searched for this stuff on the Associated Press website...

Here are things worth noting:

1. ERIC TUCKER AND BRETT ZONGKER, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS... their original article from the Kelowna Daily Courier with time stamp of Sept 15th no longer exists
2. The ONLY article that exists is under Brett Zongker and is dated Sept 16th at 11:11PM and is ABOUT THE GUNMAN.
3. He attempts to paint the gunman as a crazy/conspiracy theorist...



"I wouldn't call him nice, but he seemed harmless, if really awkward," said Demby, the lead writer for NPR's Code Switch blog about race and culture. "He was insecure. He was like a barbershop conspiracy theorist, the kind of guy who believes he's smarter than everyone else. He also was kind of like perpetually aggrieved, but not megalomaniacal or delusional."


I did a search for:
1. Eric Tucker and Brett Zongker (together)
2. Each of them separately
3. Lolita C. Baldor (who is referenced at the bottom of the Kelowna Daily Courier as contributing) ...strange name too!

I turned up ONLY the article that is about the Gunman. Something is rotten in the state of Denmark.



posted on Sep, 16 2013 @ 10:46 PM
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NotAnAspie

flyswatter

NotAnAspie

sirric
Looks like he was a disgruntle employee.


Michael Thacker, a spokesman for Hewlett-Packard, confirmed that Alexis worked for a company called "The Experts," a subcontractor working on an HP Enterprise Services job to refresh networking equipment for the Navy Marine Corps intranet. Thacker could not say whether Alexis was still employed by that company at the time of his death. But investigators were looking into claims that he recently lost that position, which they say may have set him off.


This is how he gained access, He has a Contractor CAC, it is the universal ID for military base access. It would be accepted to gain access to any part of the base short of Cypher areas. It has a Green stripe to differentiate between DOD/Military and Contractor. He also would have had a DOD Auto sticker since his job was on-board navy bases.

It would be up to "The Experts" to have retrieve his CAC ID if he was let go, But I know personally that many times the person fired would just leave and not turn in the ID.

By the time he made his way to the building, he was free and clear of initial base security.

My Pryers go out the all that are affected.

Sirric
edit on 16/9/13 by sirric because: sp


And his code or ID should have been disabled in the system and if he arrived, security should have immediately been there to greet him. The CAC should have contained a chip. I would think any ID used there would have a chip or bar code or something that could set off a computer warning that this person was no longer allowed on site... and working for dod contractors myself, I know the FIRST thing they would do is change the code on the door lock and have to go tell everyone there was a new code because they didn't issue personal cards... but they always did that right after they fired someone. Not within a day or two... immediately after the person was escorted out.


Yes, both military and contractor CACs now have embedded chips in them. But one misconception is that these chips are "scanned" in order for you to get on base, but this is not the case. In most cases, when you arrive to the gate at the base, they simply take your CAC, look to make sure it is you, ask you what business you have on base, and let you pass on through. There are times of heightened security when they do random deep dives and car searches, but this is not the norm.

As for not being allowed on site, there wouldnt have been much of a reason for them to look out for him. Unless he was fired for some sort of serious breach of security or gross misconduct, word would not have been put out to all base locations to have them watch for him and stop him at the gate. If they did that every time a contractor gets canned across the country, they would have to increase the number of gateguards tenfold, because most of them would be spending their whole shift just checking lists.


If all they do is glance at the card, then they are a complete waste. They don't add security in that case, they take security away by giving the card holder a pass... and they have chips in them for nothing if they don't use them.

As for serious breach... in any place I've ever, ever, EVER worked in... if somebody gets fired, it is understood they are going to be pissed off...and security always looks out for them to come back. They escort them all the way out... they don't just let them leave. They may not always look for that person to come back angry, but especially right after it happens the person didn't have to do anything wrong. They just know they are going to be pissed.

As for the articles... the 2nd one in midnight tdes post said it was created on the 15th, but modified on the 16th. They could have made the page ready for a breaking news article, but they are not supposed to have the wrong date on them. So it could be explainable...although the excuse is a shoddy one unless they are just trying to make the gun toters paranoid...and I am still totally leaning on this possibility because of the other elements of this ordeal.

However, I think it is very strange that even if they had the page ready for an article on the 15th and neglected to change the date that the source code says it was last modified on the 16th at 8:49. This would have given them 29 minutes to find out all the info in that article and report it to the press and have them write the article and publish it... 29 minutes from the first shot fired. I find that kind of remarkable.

This report was made by a defence official who wanted to remain anonymous.

Why is this persons very first thought "hurry up and call the press"...???

Anyway... I'm certainly no expert. I just looked at the code and saw that it had a last modified time on it but I have no idea why their system would not automatically update the date to show the date the publish it on their servers. No idea what so ever. I would think they would have some kind of automatic check on that but perhaps not.

I tend to think someone is jerking our chain and they want us to think it is a conspiracy... and it I think it IS a conspiracy, just not the kind of conspiracy they want us to think it is.

That's the ONLY motive I can come up with.

The guy may have been pissed about something, but I think he was set up like a domino if this did in fact occur.


As far as that website BS goes, I'm not even going to mess with that. Its so easy for one to falsify that information, and there are so many ways that this can come about, its just not worth wasting time on.

The main use for CACs at this point (for contractors, anyway) is for network logon, not personal identification. I am not going to into any details about how they are used, what on them allows for network logon, etc ... but in my personal case, mine only comes out of my badge holder when I need to get into my computer at work. Otherwise, its in my badge holder so my baby boy can waddle around the house playing with it and chewing on it. This guy worked for a subcontractor of the company that I work for and he worked on the same contract that I work on, so I would imagine that his use of the CAC was similar to mine.



posted on Sep, 16 2013 @ 10:46 PM
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I wouldn't be surprised if all of these people that go on "rampages," are under some kind of mind control orchestrated by these Satanist douche bags. We just write them off as insane. The media feeds us a story that fits. We hear sometimes about how these killers say they "heard voices in my head," (ie Harvey Oswald). With the microchips and ULF's coming of age, I think a lot more of us are going to be "hearing voices."



posted on Sep, 16 2013 @ 11:27 PM
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Fact one: He just got back from Japan.
Speculation A: he was ready too pass on secret info on his trip too Japan,, and was intercepted and killed.
Fact two: He just got back from Japan,, then bought a gun.
Speculation B: He just found out he was now sterile from Radiation Poisoning, and decided too get even,,for not being told, about the danger.

anyone??



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