A Woman, Empowered By Her Female Sexuality Is Formidable!

reply to post by SearchLightsInc


I didn't let on about my career in an effort to gain praise. It was to make a point....that was clearly shot way over your head.

When I use the word "radical", i try not to use the term lightly, and only when I see it. A radical feminist is one who cares not for equalism but strives to create women as a "higher" and more valuable race/gender. They often look down on men, are angry toward the opposite sex and wish to control and manipulate. A Lot of them see this as "empowering".

You called men useless, thoughtless and referred to being female as "winning the genetic lottery". This is hardly just being proud of who you are. This is straight up radical feminism in it's ugly form. If you hate men that much, please keep to yourself because you are a danger to society.

Can you imagine the implications if a man had said such things about his penis, was completely obsessed with his penis, talked as though women were the less intelligent, useful sex? Some would say he was dangerous, perverted and insane. Yet, you did this.

Your vagina love is downright scary. I am proud to be an independant and strong woman who has overcome many obstacles, but I hardly think my genitals have much to do with it as much as my heart does. And I sure as # don't go around waving my labia pride all over the place. Saying things like "my vagina is power" is really really creepy and barbaric.

SearchLightsInc
So just to be clear, teaching a woman to value her vagina is a bad thing? Okay ive got you. And apparently im uneducated, guess we should just keep girls under the belief that they shouldnt be proud or value that which makes the world go round.

If you are going to use the "Love Your Junk" argument, is it fair to say it is acceptable & important to teach boys to value their penis & testicles as well? If you respond that it is unacceptable to teach the same genitalia appreciation to boys, then you are a hypocrite. You cannot pitch a philosophy like that and exclude half the species. Males and females each hold half of the recipe for propagating the species. Neither is any more, or less, important than the other. To put either up on a pedestal and declare them more worthy than the other in "winning the genetic lottery", is asinine at best, and self destructive at worst. That kind of loathing, hatred and disgust of the other half will only serve to eat away any sense of humanity someone has.

LadyMachiatto
reply to post by SearchLightsInc

 

You called men useless, thoughtless and referred to being female as "winning the genetic lottery". This is hardly just being proud of who you are. This is straight up radical feminism in it's ugly form. If you hate men that much, please keep to yourself because you are a danger to society.

Can you imagine the implications if a man had said such things about his penis, was completely obsessed with his penis, talked as though women were the less intelligent, useful sex? Some would say he was dangerous, perverted and insane. Yet, you did this.

I'm not arguing with your complaint here because that is between you two but I just have to point something out about what you've written here.

Men do EXACTLY this ALL the time.

Let me just jump back a short distance to that very same man who was grabbing his penis while alone in his office with me. This is certainly not the worst I have heard coming from men, but it is recent and just proof that if I could list things said by men who I've been around because it is an ongoing habit... day in day out, it would be an extremely long list. A never ending list.

We were in the shop and supposed to be working... and learning, because this man is an instructor at a tech college. He was getting a laugh from some of my male students by telling them that his wife had gone to university and got herself a masters degree but that she had no common sense to the point where she wouldn't know how to pour piss out of a boot if the instructions were on the heel. He was making this comment because a woman had brought her car in and had let it run low on oil. So he found it necessary to illustrate repeatedly how ignorant women were... and both the instructors were in on this little slam party with absolutely no remorse that they were saying it in front of a female. As a matter of fact, it is my belief that my presence was the main reason they were doing it.

Many of the students had their own points to make. A complete slam fest on the female gender.

There was one particular student in that class... very southern/country type and you have no idea how many times I have heard him repeat "You should of seen my wifes kids before we got married. They didn't eat right because they were RAISED BY WOMEN. They were afraid if the dark BECAUSE THEY WERE RAISED BY WOMEN..." and on and on inferring by different ways how they were weak/spoiled/useless etc etc... because they were RAISED BY WOMEN.

One was telling me how inferior my anatomy is because I wouldn't be able to spell my own name with urine during a pissing contest.

I could go on and on with examples but don't want to make this post huge. I ONLY FINISHED A MINI SUMMER SEMESTER! Before the class it was just coming from different men in a different setting. My point is that just from a past recent experience with people I don't even know well, there are countless examples of sexism because it was a large group of males and this is what they do, whether you realize that or not. Whether you have ever been like a fly on the wall, this is what they do and I have seen it countless times... I'm not sure how you have escaped it, maybe you know it just as well as I do but are just arguing against feminism just for the sake of doing so.

You can try to spread guilt about it, but surely you must see that any hatred of this kind of behavior coming from men is directly their own fault. Men who do this... and it is the majority of men, imo, have no one but themselves to blame. Maybe they ought to look at all the statistical violence and sexism that is rampant in the world coming directly from men before thinking they will just force feminism out of existence, because they themselves are the ones who have brought this into the world.

dangerous to society?

Are you seriously trying to make some kind of statement concerning dangers to society?

Do you really think vaginal pride is a match with the global atrocities and deep rooted sexism caused by men?

Really?

You sound like John mcCain trying to tell Russians he cares more about them than Putin... just because he said so like Uncle Touchy reading a bedtime story to his favorite niece about how much of a hero he is in her world.

I realize that there are plenty of stupid people to fall for it when the facts stare them right in the face, but I think it's going to go over like a lead balloon in this particular thread.

If I have to get spammed with countless penis enlargement ads when I'm not even a male, then I think any "real man" ought to be able to handle a little vagina pride. The ones who don't only prove that they make absolutely no sense and are likely insane and terrible mates and should go gay and stop kidding themselves.

reply to post by NotAnAspie


Notwithstanding the switch&shift, from the OP question, to generalised denigrations on an embarrassing scale...it would be par for the course for individual profiles to pidgeon-hole...men call women who are obviously not 'empowered', dowdy...women call men who are obviously not 'empowered', cuckolded...

Of course, both are comments produced by the alpha element of each sex - they have that covered - and it's supposed to pass for intelligence, while the men grab their crotches and wolf whistle...and while women compensate ((new feminism-wise)) by defending commensurate behaviour by women...

There is no...redressing of balance in these scenarios...rather the revolution that overtakes the revolution...that, at least, should be obvious...

Å99

reply to post by NotAnAspie



When I pointed out the possible implications of a man showing his penis pride and being a complete barbaric tool about it, I was talking about IN THIS THREAD.

Of course I know about the horrible sexism that exists even today around the globe. It's tragic, heartbreaking and downright dangerous. Yemen comes to mind.

But it also extremely hypocritical to do the same as a woman. Just because the vast majority of sexism comes from the male species, historically speaking, does not make it right by any means for a woman to do it. It just inhibits the advancement of gender equalization even more so.

I am very sorry to hear of your ignorant fellow students and professor, I really am. I have experienced sexism many a time in the course of my life, but I don't hold the entire male species accountable. I refuse to allow a few bad apples spoil the bunch.

There are a lot of ignorant douchy males out there, as well as females. I cannot count how many times I have heard "women" gripe about penis, bank account and vehicle size. It makes all of us look bad and has actually jaded a lot of good men. Women are just as guilty of sexism as men are IN SOME CASES. Not all. And this is my point, they are not all to be painted with the same brush.

akushla99
reply to post by NotAnAspie

 

Notwithstanding the switch&shift, from the OP question, to generalised denigrations on an embarrassing scale...it would be par for the course for individual profiles to pidgeon-hole...men call women who are obviously not 'empowered', dowdy...women call men who are obviously not 'empowered', cuckolded...

Of course, both are comments produced by the alpha element of each sex - they have that covered - and it's supposed to pass for intelligence, while the men grab their crotches and wolf whistle...and while women compensate ((new feminism-wise)) by defending commensurate behaviour by women...

There is no...redressing of balance in these scenarios...rather the revolution that overtakes the revolution...that, at least, should be obvious...

Å99

but should this alleged female empowerment, when it takes the form of what some see as bad behavior, give any man the excuse to use his penis as a violent weapon which happens every minute of every day?

No... and it doesn't, because even in cultures where the utmost modesty is mandatory, rape is still just as common as it is anywhere else. In other words, no excuse is needed.

Men have given themselves the right to engage in this type of behavior far longer than woman have and for woman, it is still shocking. Why?

How is a man who puts down this type of behavior in women while also, in another breath or moment, trying to partake in such behavior for his own satisfaction... making any sense what so ever by denigrating behavior he finds so hard to resist?

It's 1 thing to be proud of your body & flaunt it.
It's another to be utterly inconsistent & constantly exposing one's own ulterior motive.

In the few cases I listed, it's not the jokes I find offensive because some of them are actually funny.
Like the OP mentions, it's the fact that most of these men seem to be stupid enough to think I would actually sleep with a men so disgustingly sexist & ineffectively manipulative or such failures as husbands. They use these tactics to put down their victim to make them feel bad enough where they feel they must prove something, perhaps by removing some clothing or starting some flirtatious behavior, but what they don't seem to realize is that it just makes them look stupid to many of us.

The ones who play along with them are the ones who can bring themselves to steer them, to navigate this inversion of reason to pursue their male need, but those with principle find it much more difficult to play along. Then after they have snagged that man who has lended himself to such games & they have themselves a provider, for the moment, for a year, for a lifetime... whatever the case may be, they may 1 day have to face the idea that something seems missing in their relationship, because in trying to fool others- so often they get fooled.

For a woman it is best for her to at least be honest about her intentions, if she is aggressively & openly sexual because manipulation puts her in more danger than it does a man. She is generally not the one who will resort to using her body as a violent weapon.

Many times the woman is beguiled by a man who knows how to be nice enough to get his foot in the door only to find out that he doesn't really give a crap, he just wanted a body to lay next to & now she is mixed up with him but never wanted to use anyone when her feelings die.

I think it is next to impossible for a woman to remain tender hearted & intimate with a man who does not represent himself for what he truly is.

When you have a tramp acting like a tramp, it might be more respectable than one who puts on airs when you get right down to it, but in the case of woman, it's shocking, filthy, a detriment to society. When a man does it, it is accepted as part of the world even though some may not like it, they just have to get used to it. What's more dangerous is that women cannot be allowed to be what they are, sexual creatures, unless they are in a man's bedroom doing what he tells her to do. I am not saying I agree with promiscuous or dangerous behavior because I know it can end very badly, but there are much MUCH worse things in the world than a woman who is honest about her sexuallity, such as lying to yourself or others. Such as taking offence to it to the level of it becoming an obsession. Take for example.. PORN. How many men watch porm? Or should I say, how many men do NOT watch porn?.. but would they want their wife being a porn star? Doubtfully & I wouldn't want to be married to a porn star either, but then again, I don't watch porn. I don't enjoy watching porn. I have absolutely nothing against sex, in the right context, but find porn disgusting. At the same time, I could have a conversation any day of the week without scolding a porn star on their behavior- so long as they are smart about it. I don't think sex should be sold but in this society, it is for sale & some people have to make rent. It is not to be upheld but forgivable.

I think honesty is much more important than just keeping up appearances & even those who are doing things some may find unacceptable, they will come closer to the truth as long as they continue an honest approach in life.

Men who try to screw me after mind screwing me- behind their wifes back- because they are no longer "getting any" from her- because they have probably insulted her too many times with male callousness- because they were never really honest with her from the beginning- are stuck in their own stupid trap in life & should recognize how insulting it is to think I would be intimate with them. It's basically like looking at me & calling me easy, but that's fine because they are ones who have to wake up and look at themselves everyday in the mirror. Less & less in my life will I give any man an excuse to think anything of the sort. I won't even flirt with a man. I will not gander at a man. I will not entertain or bat eyelashes to ANY man even if I have the tightest screw in the world to loosen & he has the last wrench- so that *I* will have no doubt in my mind that he directed in any of his bad behavior because I gave him reason to think I was easy, because I know I did no such thing.

The conclusion is that he was simply hard up & fantasized about it enough to take such a stupid risk.

There will be no room for doubt & if I ever get the opportunity to inform my old instructor's wife about what he did & what he said about her, I most certainly will, because now I am no longer in his class & have no need to ignore his behavior for fear that calling it out will get me failed.

I get to keep ALL my self confidence.
I get to look in the mirror & see an honest person.
I don't have to look beside me & see just a penis who provides & the trade off is my own dignity & having to be ridiculed.

I have been in many relationships- gave them a shot only to find myself with a crazy or morally bereft person who misrepresents themselves & no I never stuck around.

If that makes me look like some kind of man player, so be it. I don't care what they think.
I gave it an honest try & dealt with the disappointment without it continuing to cost me.
And I have learned a lot. One thing I am very certain of, is that only a good, smart man will do.

Tough to find between the liars so I will NOT take fault for my journey or my "experience" with shame.

reply to post by NotAnAspie


What generalisations about your experience of 'mens' behaviour are you projecting onto ALL men?...that would be the revolution overtaking the revolution...

Power (and empowerment) can and does happen on subtler levels, and not necessarily utilised like some magic nuclear GO button...

What I think some posters are alluding to, is the reactionary effects of personal experience that exhibit as a kind of lashing out, and devil may care attitude - that can look tawdry, men and women alike (men subjugated by women, women physically and psychologically abused by men)...'Check out this awesome weapon I've got, losers...watch me wave the MF about...got a problem with that?'...

It would be bordering on the inane (and I'm being polite) to assume that all men are alike, and all women are alike...I know not all women are like this with inherent power (just the affected ones, who seem to think we need to know)...and I know not all men are like this with inherent power (just the affected ones who seem to think we need to know)...

...all's good when you understand we have different 'weapons'...

Å99

LadyMachiatto
reply to post by NotAnAspie

 

I am very sorry to hear of your ignorant fellow students and professor, I really am. I have experienced sexism many a time in the course of my life, but I don't hold the entire male species accountable. I refuse to allow a few bad apples spoil the bunch.

There are a lot of ignorant douchy males out there, as well as females. I cannot count how many times I have heard "women" gripe about penis, bank account and vehicle size. It makes all of us look bad and has actually jaded a lot of good men. Women are just as guilty of sexism as men are IN SOME CASES. Not all. And this is my point, they are not all to be painted with the same brush.

Oh, I hear ya... some women are just gold diggers but any smart person will just walk away from that and not accept that kind of behavior. This is often not the case. If the man is the one with the bank account, the car etc etc... then he is capable of walking away. I know some people get stuck, but if one has to put up with someone trying to take something from them, then they have the resources to eliminate the problem. Unless they are so completely desperate for sex or to be right or to not have to confront an issue, don't put up with a manipulator from either gender if you have any conceivable way out. Kids can't be used as an excuse either because kids shouldn't be exposed to manipulative or negative parenting styles if possible, in the first place.

My argument with your "few bad apples" statement is that it is an underestimation.

Still yet, I do believe wholeheartedly that there are certainly good men out there and the one's who are good are as good as gold but at the very same time, it's very hard to condemn anything in this world at all... without condemning the very aggressive male gender and statistics only continue to back that up. So while I'll be one of the first to condemn usury, lying and abuse coming from females as it too does sicken me and makes me angry, men have to be aware how much influence they have on each other and not simply pretend to not condone bad behavior in front of women. In all my experience, this has not been the case. More so than females, they are pack animals... and this is why gang rapes are so common. How do you suppose it became so likely that an entire group of men, all at the same time, just decided that now is a good time to become a violent, sexually abusive predator and risk going to jail? What is the likelihood if they have no influence on each other?

In this world, many of the mistakes we see being made are very unnecessary and are really just men covering up for each other. It will become possible to not paint them all with the same brush when we see a break in the pattern of worldwide, undeniable atrocity after atrocity committed by men... and not solved by the old "way of the world" or "survival of the fittest" argument. Or the ridiculous notion that the way to cool down tensions is to go kill a lot of people and do a lot of posturing and making threats. The greatest war and the greatest enslavement of all time has been the onslaught of aggression and hatred of male against female. Even with those facts staring me in face all my life, did it ever stop me from being involved with any of my exes? No, it didn't... but experience sure did drive that nail straight into the coffin. It is not a few bad apples. The majority of men are abusive from my first hand experience.

Men need to realize they are a lethal, walking containers of testosterone and if they claim a place in this world as the main bearers of responsibility, that responsibility should not be taken lightly and they should not excuse the age old aggression of man and chalk it all up to how the world is. If they do, they have no right to hold that responsibility. Men shaped society more than anyone so they cannot continue to make excuses for everything.. as we see the planet being destroyed before our very eyes and we see violent crime after violent crime being committed...and the overwhelmingy majority can be blamed on someone with a penis. I'm sorry, but it's just a fact and if they don't like that, they should change it. The responsibility is now in the form of pride and frustration... the ego. They have to remember that if they put themselves above the weaker gender and want to be considered the head and not be taken advantage of by an empowered female and want to insist their way is the best way, then they should do better at holding that responsibility... and they are not. Instead they are destroying the planet and killing each other, killing women and children in horrible ways and PRIDING themselves for anything but also EXCUSING themselves from acknowledgement.

Sure, when a raping murderer gets the death penalty, it may very well be another man who is driving the needle in their arm... but how many men can you think of right off the top of your head who stand up for women's rights and encourage their fellow men to do better? How many of them can you think of that will openly talk about violent male statistics?

yeah...women have problems. Sure.

Men have problems even admitting men have problems.

Of course they are not all responsible, but the ones who aren't should not have such a problem admitting the truth...as I can admit that being a manipulative female does nothing for the plight of women. Who is going to stop them? Who is going to have enough influence as one man to another to break the cycle and face the problem of aggression in society? Do women talk about these things to each other? damn straight they do... and they will often call each other out while men will most likely encourage each other or just keep their nose out of it.

Who is going to change the world built by men?

The puppy dog and kitty cat lovers?

Clearly they are not listening to the puppy dog and kitty cat lovers of the world.

Puppy dog and kitty cat problems are not even real problems to them so among those who are "real" men, when are they going to at least be able to face each other as men and stop trying to exclude their gender as the predominantly guilty party in all of life's worst nightmares?

"Real" men can admit the truth, at least to each other.

This isn't the REAL world until there is a lot of death, killing, rape and all kinds of terrible REAL world stuff. the people who can't understand that, to them, they think they don't even live in that real world...and we're all right here in the same screwed up world.

How many men have tried to tell what they consider some naive female what the REAL world is about. You know I had an ex that had the audacity to come to me crying and telling me that I didn't know what pain was because I hadn't lived in the REAL world and didn't know what life was about. Why? Because I'm prettier than his ugly ass self. Untouched by the real world. Horse#!

Women suffer and die every day in this world.

If they want to run this damn thing...then I expect them to FIX IT. ALL of it... that includes their perversion and rape and trying to remind their wives how dumb they are.

And if they cannot... then they need to close that mouth of theirs from time to time, because it's all a bunch of crap anyway. A bunch of insecure, scared, posturing, egotistical crap so afraid it will be caught in it's LIES.

NotAnAspie
My argument with your "few bad apples" statement is that it is an underestimation.

You know what? It's not. I grew up with more male friends than female ones for a reason, and it wasn't because of the demographics. The girls were just plain cruel, and I believe it arose out of ingrained fear of the boys. The ones who distrusted males were among the least pleasurable girls to spend time with. The ones with little or no fear? Great girls all around. I doubt it was a coincidence, either.
The guys weren't nearly as bad as other women made them out to be, they weren't the salivating, uncontrollable predators all the little girls were told to be afraid of. They were just normal kids & teens, and they weren't anything to clutch the pearls over. My guy friends were just as respectful as any decent girl was, no one attacked, fondled, or otherwise abused or mistreated the girls. I don't have broad workforce experience across many companies or sectors, but I can say I rarely came across distasteful behavior in the tourism sector, and as someone who grew up on job sites with a contractor father and married a municipal projects worker, that thus far in my life, I've yet to come across this supposed large number of ape-like ogres lurking in the shadows to take advantage of women. I've come across a few gross males who attempted to get in my pants by way of being barely civilized, and that's in no way a majority of men I've met.
To be blunt, I think you're projecting you own experiences and assuming a gross overestimation of foul behaviors much in the same way a man who's known nothing but meek girls would assume women are just delicate, meek little things. Neither is accurate.

More so than females, they are pack animals... and this is why gang rapes are so common. How do you suppose it became so likely that an entire group of men, all at the same time, just decided that now is a good time to become a violent, sexually abusive predator and risk going to jail? What is the likelihood if they have no influence on each other?

Bullcrap. Men & women alike are pack animals. Our species is a hierarchy that doesn't give a damn what the Alpha has under their clothes. Males can be horrific with the wrong upbringing and wrong peer reinforcement, and so can females. I've long ago realized and accepted that. Girls aren't that dainty, honey. They're positively vicious in their own packs.

The greatest war and the greatest enslavement of all time has been the onslaught of aggression and hatred of male against female. Even with those facts staring me in face all my life, did it ever stop me from being involved with any of my exes? No, it didn't... but experience sure did drive that nail straight into the coffin. It is not a few bad apples. The majority of men are abusive from my first hand experience.

One, be careful what you idolize religiously. Patriarchal religions subjugate for a reason---there's no power in religion over the people if you can't dominate the followers.
Two, psychologically speaking, you seek the unsavory types out, not that the entire gender is bad by default. This has been delved into and studied for decades. This unconscious attraction is why a lot of women end up with the most violent or abusive people relationship after relationship. The exact same thing applies to men, there are plenty of examples of men who are subconsciously attracted to the same gross type of personality time & again. I know one who does this, and he can't figure out why his ex-girlfriends and ex-wife were so horrible. He sought them out, was warned by us, and dated/married anyway. He wasn't aware of it, but he set himself up for heartache & emotional abuse every time, and continues to do so unaware. I would suggest tackling that, perhaps in counseling, before taking such a broad & unyielding swipe at men.

Men need to realize they are a lethal, walking containers of testosterone

Oh, I just can't resist asking this. If men are lethal containers of testosterone, does that mean all women are estrogen-laden weak crybabies? No? Then do you see how impudent that kind of hormone association is?

yeah...women have problems. Sure.

Men have problems even admitting men have problems.

Everyone has problems. Most of them being social. You know what really blows your theory out of the water here, though? Not counting the moms who raise their boys to bury any inkling of emotion to appear "strong". Women can be, and are, part of that problem with emotionally damaged men. Not all women, but some of them. I have one male friend who was raised by a single mom, and he turned out highly sensitive to others' feelings under her rearing. He's a soul of great understanding & patience, and his wife certainly agrees. Another friend of mine married another man raised by a single mom. His mother despised seeing emotion from males, and engrained it in him that he was weak if he ever so much as shed a tear, or expressed himself. He eventually imploded after a decade of marriage and 2 kids. Instead of voicing his stresses, he believed his mother's claims, and turned to drugs & abandoned his family.
If you couldn't discern anything from that, it's 2 personal examples I've witness that highlight that how one is raised matters just as much, if not MORE, than whether you have an innie, or an outtie crotch. 2 single moms, 2 very different schools of thought, and 2 very different men as the outcomes.

I don't have time to read your whole post but i will try to get back to it. i can't spend alot of time on it right now because I am not talking about kids and teens. I had LOTS of friends, mostly guys when i was younger. I am no kid any more. I have had a gun pulled on me over sex. I have been drugged twice. I have been physically abused a few times. i was ganged up on by a group of so called friends because I would not go back inside a house with a young man who had thrown me on the ground and was smashing beer bottles all over the place. I have been thrown outside without my clothes in a neighborhood for passing out on my bed and not having sex with one of my exes. He attacked me on numerous occasions. I have been hit, I have been backed into corners and made to cower. I have had my animals hidden from me. i have had animals killed. i have had cars sabotaged. I have seen countless inappropriate behavior from so called upstanding citizens. I am not the one making these deeds happen every time I turn around. Hell, i went to apply for a job one time and the white haired man in his seventies said he would me around the plant and took me to the nurses station. The old man closed the door, tried to push me on the bed and said "come on baby, gimme some"... as hilarious as that is, I wish i were joking but I'm not. One of my friends fathers insulted my skinniness 5 minutes before he pulled me to his lap and held me there as i was trying to get up as his wife was on the couch asleep... my friends mother. There was a guy who offered me a ride after leaving a bar and when i said politely said no, he "accidentally" pushed me down with a sinister smile on his face and then offered to help me back up and when he did, he almost broke my thumb which was swollen to twice it's size for over a week and blue... then he ran off... but nothing is worse than having a man on top of you grinding away as his hand is over your mouth and if that wasn't enough to make you feel like you wouldn't never breath again, his 200 plus pounds bearing down was certainly enough to complete the thought.

Look... It's obvious you haven't walked in my shoes.

maybe these animals just aren't interested in you or your friends.

Just came back to this & now I know why after reading the first paragraph that it was probably a waste of time.

1st of all, I don't know how many times I have to repeat that I'm well aware not all males are this way- some are taught to be careful with their masculinity b/c it's a powerful physical attribute. You just echoed what I said, while arguing the point, which makes it sound a little crazy. Not all males are taught this cautiousness but are actually taught to exclude women, exclude feelings & pay more attention to the importance of their animalistic survival behaviors, such as 1 man I know who tried to instill toughness into his son by making him go outside & shoot a litter of puppies. (NOT AN EX BTW) After growing up, the son did not approve of making his own son do such things. The kid he helped to raise turned into a great young man & I love him to death.

The man who pulled a gun on me, attacked me, almost suffocated me & drove me around in the dark who I thought was surely going to kill me- NOT AN EX.

The guy who nearly broke my thumb NOT AN EX. I didn't even know the guy, total stranger.

The worst examples come from people i was not close to, smarty, but yes, some are exes b/c one simply has spent a lot with their exes. DUH.

Countless examples of crap coming from men who i have no personal relationship too- like the people in my class. as if my personality is responsible for being in a class with them. DUH. I tried to direct only polite, class oriented conversation w/ them without getting too close or personal, so I did NOTHING wrong.

It's obvious that you just want to find something else to blame because this offends you. You try to make it sound like you can observe from my perspective, & then tell me what i did wrong but it's clear that you didn't even analyze me even REMOTELY correct. If you're going to make a psycho-analysis, at least don't get it completely freaking backwards.

Here's the thing- You think I'm afraid of men.

While I know that it's a good idea to be cautious around an angry man, I'm not afraid of men. I am not shy. I'm not in a shell. I am not self conscious, etc- all this being the type of stupid conclusions that some people think when they meet me b/c I am not begging to be accepted into their pack & it robs them of the usual social leverage that people use against each other in both subtle & overt ways. For example, if I am single well why the hell am I not out showing off my body, chatting guys up & trying to snag me a man? oh they come up with all sorts of stupid ideas & force their silly opinions on me when I've been there- done that. There is no ice to break. I've simply got other interests. Stupid bantering jokes coming from males trying to break the ice. It's just a waste of time- I couldn't care less about petty social dynamics right now b/c I've got my circle, I've got the ones who I trust & yes, some of them are MEN... OH MY!

I wouldn't have experienced HALF the stuff in my life if I were afraid. the reason that most of my relationships did not work out is that I make no excuses for stupidity. I don't overlook a serious fault b/c it's coming from a male authority. That statement right there is the sum of it all. I don't bite my lip when it comes to some seriously screwed up misconception that is going to produce more of the worlds insanity just b/c it comes from someone who has the position of male authority. That is the whole situation right there & it isn't a problem, it's a solution & you can't make me shut up or feel guilty about it.

I've got all the science I need to back up the OBVIOUSNESS that testosterone is the cause of a lot of this aggression yet important to life, procreation & should be treated like a loaded weapon. Those given that weapon should NOT exploit WEAKNESS of the opposite. They have to realize they could lose their maleness. It is a RESPONSIBILITY like having a permit for a gun. It's not a RIGHT. IT'S SCIENCE. NOT SPIRIT. A GIFT- NOT WHO THEY ARE. Argue with science all you want. Yeah, women have problems too & some of it IS b/c of their gender. YES some women feel weaker than what they really are. I want very much for them to face this & overcome it- BUT WOMEN AREN'T RUNNING AROUND THE WORLD CARRYING MACHINE GUNS & RAPING MEN LIKE IT'S AN EVERYDAY THING.

PLENTY of men have faced the fact that their bodies can be a WEAPON & they learn it, respect it, control IT. They do not deny thoughts & feelings because it is not "manly". THOSE are the REAL men.

The 1 I have my sights on could be more vicious than any other man I've ever met & you think I have too much fear? pfft. The fact that he is smart enough to control his power, just turns any fear into excitement.

This isn't FEAR. This is a deep rooted, on going, never changing hatred & disgust for IGNORANCE!

I'm sick & tired of observing circles of men who perpetuate their own bad behavior just because they can. You think you are going to change this by attacking my relationship choices when the reality is so clear? how dumb.

This pattern among men will destroy itself as mankind itself breaks away from it's carnal nature.
I don't have to MAKE it happen. man will evolve, but makes no mistake, no bothersome, annoying, tired ass, pseudo-psychological male misconception that I'm just "missing out" on what a man has to offer is going to work!
I KNOW what a real man is. I know the value of true male responsibility is like & not much can compare to it. These other men are just out of place- barking up the wrong damn tree- have forgotten who the hell they are- are looking to me like they have some business with me which they do not have- have assumed a position that IS NOT THEIRS.

that's not my problem, but I have to suffer their idiocy?

I will have NO problems in ceasing my tirade when THEY STOP EFFECTING MY WORLD.

I have a RIGHT to bitch so long as they continue to point THEIR noses in MY direction.

If I have to make every one of them think I'm just full of myself & unpleasant to direct attention to- FINE... SO BE IT. If it will make them dial their little "figuring" compass in some other damn direction because I've already got people who understand me, I've already got people who know what is in my heart. You think I am running around looking for approval when I know myself through & through? that crap doesn't work on me. that is so last decade. I've spent enough of my youth trying to play up to the approval of backward ass society & I have learned... DONE DEAL... that society can be just full of crap.

When many men stop being so concerned whether they look tough among the pack- whether they will be accepted by peers that have excluded in so many cases, the opinions & feelings of the female gender, they can stop being puppets in their own show as well.

I've got other stuff to do & it would be nice if some types would piss off.

I know men have penises. I don't need them to point it out by constantly grabbing it in front of me. They just embarrass themselves. It's annoying & disrupts my day to subject me to attempts to get inside my world. It's got nada to do with fear. I'm just not interested in this lie. There's plenty of guys I like & they are not the types who have male pow wows & reinforce asinine behavior like shooting small animals & saying LOOK AT ME. PLEASE. I'M MANLY. I'LL MAKE YOU LOOK- AT MY DICK. I'M LOST & DON'T KNOW WHO I AM BUT I HAVE A PENIS SO I AM JUST A MAN. WORSHIP MY PENIS!

I just want to point out that while I'm not interested in penises in my face coming from strange married men who have forgotten who the hell they are, I can't deny my constant and continuous requests at seeing and examining a certain persons "stuff" who is all too aware of that, which is between me and that person and not anything anyone else needs to worry about.

You see, these guys don't know the half of it. It has nothing to do with them or an aversion to sex or to gender.

It's about KNOWING YOUR ROLE. Can't stand a man who doesn't know his role!

Man says "Ah gee, the world is grim so my role is to go shoot baby animals because that's life"

That's a train, that doesn't know it's a damn train, in the wrong country, using the wrong fuel, jumping the wrong track, trying to be an airplane, going up the wrong side of the wrong damn mountain, on a trip traveling north to get to the southern tip of south america with a blind deaf dumb man driving who's never even rode on a train going WOOOO WOOOO LOOK AT ME, I'm a train.

HOORAY.. The world will be ruled and saved by the BABY KILLERS.

GENIUS!

Now excuse me while I go ponder a real man's junk.

reply to post by NotAnAspie


"Something sexist"!

NeoParadigm
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"Something sexist"!

Yay Equality. No question who took the first shot. I have the right. The world shows countless examples proving weapons should be wielded with great care... or they should be removed.
No admittance, no repentance from many on the other side but the world will still change.
We are equals- in different temples, but the gap is closing. It is beyond sexist. Some just don't see that far ahead. I do not misuse my sex and do not excuse those who do. Speaking the truth is another matter. I make no attempt to cover up my disgust for regression into carnal, doggish, unevolved, dominant pack behavior from ANYONE. I do hope that didn't sound like an apology. You can always read it again if you think I feel any guilt about it.

reply to post by NotAnAspie


I think you need to chill out a bit and stop living in your past.

What is the big problem here? You are upset that men want to do you?

Do you ever watch National Geographic Channel?

reply to post by SearchLightsInc


A Woman, Empowered By Her Female Sexuality Is Formidable!

Empowered By Her Female Sexuality ? Empowered to do what ? Formidable ? To what ?

Fame and beauty are fleeting, so shake it while you can .

Your right about one thing , all these so called female singers are selling sex not their singing talents.

Gee, I can't wait till men are empowered, dancing and singing on stage in thongs. Jagger would love that !
And Gene Simmons too, maybe Timberlake ?

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There not I do not think all that many people know who Miley Cyrus was before she became news and they will forget about her in a few weeks or months. Just because the TV or the internet news says she is causing a scandal or such does not mean that is actually the case. I do not think people are all that surprised, I know I'm not.

Im sure you've seen it, read about it or heard people talking about it – It got over 80 million views on youtube over its first 4-5 days. Miley cyrus, butt naked on a wrecking ball, licking a sledge hammer seductively with absolutely no thought what so ever to health and safety. Its outrageous this once child star now steps into the world of the adult music industry without bothering to get dressed first. How dare she, a woman, make such an explicit statement to the world that clearly says “I am not hannah montanna”

Oh ya and so did Brittany Spears and Madonna and Janet Jackson and countless others who I do not remember before her. Its all just a sales pitch mostly aimed at teenagers. And even they are like "huh, say what, its nothing we have not seen at the party last night party before" If you would look there are more critiques about how she sucks at twerking then the fact that she is twerking.

Personally I find Miley Cyrus or any of them to have almost no sexual attraction or very little. I think they even suck at being females, and so do you, and so do a majority of females. I know what your thinking. How can anybody suck at something that is practically a given from the start. I dont know! It is rather like throwing a rock at the ground and missing but there it is. And again its not hard for females to attract the male attention and eye, as millions to billions of years of evolution can attest to that. Yet somehow they even fail at that.

With what's been going on you'd think it was the first time that a woman has made a statement using her feminine qualities. Madonna's antic's instantly spring to mind. She pissed off a lot of people singing about getting pregnant and desiring sex with no strings. She was the anti-christ for some. And yet, she only aided the cause for women to feel empowered by their vagina's. “Justify my love” speaks volumes for a title of a song. When have you ever heard a man singing about having to justify his lust?

I believe your missing one important thing here. That being that there selling records to afford those mansions and those shiny rims on there Cadillac's. Madonna is not even nowhere near all that sexy at all, in fact at least to me she seems practically a dude, and Miley just seems like a prepubescent retard, but some dudes get off that, you and them seem to have much in common. But hey that's just me. And I can probably post many songs most of which rap songs about men singing about justifying there lusts. There are plenty of songs like that from both genders.

What's really had me thinking over the past couple of days is the WHY? Why is society shocked and angered when a woman displays total control of her body? Why does it respond with a backlash of disparaging comments designed to shame and intimidate? Why do we only celebrate female sexuality when the woman in question is following a certain set of rules that keep her “pure” from criticism?

I dont know. Why do people crowd around when a fight breaks out? Why do people stop and look like herds of meerkats when a crash happens?

If a woman embraces the body she was born into, understands the power it potentially posses, shows ownership and competency in decision making in regards to her well being – She takes away any control society/men/boys sought to exploit. This in itself is unacceptable in patriarchal societies. Probably even considered by some a direct attack on the male populous and their highly vocalised needs.

I believe both Miley and her crack team of professionals are crying as all the way to the bank. And so is every other woman who used the fact that she was female and had a vagina to achieve an end.

So how do we keep women playing the game of cat and mouse?
We teach them absolutely nothing about being sexually empowered. In doing so, many women don’t realise until their mid 20's just exactly what they've been gifted with. I honestly believe there comes a moment in every women's life when she realises she is desired and that feeling ultimately secures her own personal progression that cements her identity as a mature woman.
She knows she's got something far better than a penis. She has something that is desired by both men and women, something that can grow a human being, push it into the world and forever be connected with that being emotionally.

Um ya! I do believe every female has known that since before they reached puberty.

I think what really irks society and some men is the fact that, if she places value on herself, then you to have to share and respect that value in order to get a look in. If she's in control then she decides if you're good enough to be considered. Im sure, this being the case for some women, they've turned away the “nice guys” and ineffectively hurt them forever more. They may have left a man who was totally in love with them, because they wanted better for themselves. This results in the shaming and demonetization of women. The idea that they “cant be trusted” because they make decisions some men cant understand or benefit from.

Or your just a user who thinks she is something else then she is. Its nothing new, the majority of females out there seem to be just users in the disguise of something else all to achieve a few more kickbacks. You just dont seem to know it, and have some issues about it. I mean after all you even say it yourself. Such as in the above quote....Just get on with it, why all the hupla about nothing? Hopefully one day you will at the very least be honest with yourself enouph to not need this roundabout bull#.

Have you heard that popular joke about the elevator and women picking there husbands on different floors...The husband store

There is a saying that rings very true to me as I make my way through life observing the people around me: Weak men desire weak women in order to prop up their sense of masculinity. It is often the weak men who down talk women, perceive them as less than human so that they are more manageable in their every day interactions. Boy's are taught in their teen's that calling girls name's is a great way to break down any confidence they have in their bodies and will result in those girls, seeking to restore that confidence lost by engaging in sexual acts to falsely win the respect of their peers. A sign of a boys's masculinity is his ability to manipulate a woman into submitting to his needs. Stop me if im wrong.

Srry but I think maybe you should stop and think that maybe there is a reason why you attract a certain kind and why other would go miles around you. Just saying.

reply to post by MarioOnTheFly

I really didn't understand what was all the hoopla about. Every other music video on MTV shows practically naked women, dancing, singing simulating sex (remember the early days of Britney)... She was just joining the band wagon...sex sells...I thought that was clear by now. I'm not saying we should like Milley because of it...but...there was nothing in that show that was..."earth shattering" and required the global reaction...nothing that wasn't already seen or done.

Ya exactly its absolutely nothing new. I turn on to MTV and I can see hundreds more women who are doing thing oh so much more shocking then what Miley was doing. But suddenly it becomes big news, all because some idiot former micky mouse club kid is doing it....Go figure eh! I mean who cares? It seems some people will turn a mountain our of a molehill to prove some stupid point which only exists in there head at any opportunity.

reply to post by SearchLightsInc


Woman's sexuality is a lot like Sports...about the time they hit 30 most of that power is gone, so you better plan right.

reply to post by NotAnAspie

See a counselor or shrink, it may help. And if your so distraught with men then see a female counselor.

Second.