reply to post by eso322
First, is there a reason for the numbers you chose to identify yourself here?
Second: This sticks out for me more than anything else in your post (having said that you have some riveting responses here, truly, but these are
just my impressions)
I have always for some reason had this strong urge to want a Philosophical Organization to beat me till I find out who I am.
and then this, too, combined:
I wish to do that so I can begin to separate conditioned thoughts from those of my own.
So, what I gather from that, is you interpret that we are extremely manipulated in thought and action these days. And you are seeking to separate
that manipulation from "who you truly are," as an individual, without and beyond that manipulation. And, further, if someone "beat" you
metaphorically or otherwise, you might be pushed to find the true essence of self, yes?
Just repeating your thoughts here, so I can try to understand where you're coming from. I agree, to some degree, that stress, certainly does
quantify and qualify our existence, reality and knowledge of self. We could go into, from there, if anyone should have to live through that to get
there, but that isn't your thread topic, so I won't digress into that, which is my particular, "agenda," on this board, and will freely admit
Having said all that crap, I believe there are many ways to truly know who you are, and separate from the "background noise," if you will, without
being beaten or stressed like that. In fact, many members have supplied a list of particular questions or answers to that quandary for you.
What I would like to ask, instead, is what are the parts of you, that you do not feel are inherent, having defined this task of determining
individuality as you have, and how are they presented to you so that you recognize them as not inherent in and of you?
For in this answer, I
believe, you will find yourself.
Sincerely and respectfully,