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The Pre-Columbian god Walac and an Ancient Cosmic Event in Northern Peru

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posted on Sep, 14 2013 @ 05:14 PM
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The Tallanes Culture is probably unknown for many members, honestly I haven't been interested to know more about them until I read this interesting story about their origin. I think you'll like it.




The god Walac which means "the eye seen in the distance" or Sec Tallan language is a little-known legend, which told in ancient times it appeared in the sky of Piura, a luminous phenomenon in the late afternoon, for the piuranos old was very significant phenomenon, the fortress-temple Narihuala erected a temple in honor of Walac.



Yeah, that eye again...., other culture, other place.


".. tells a little-known legend, according to which in ancient times it appeared in the sky of Piura, a luminous phenomenon in the late afternoon and lasted all night. That could be considered a comet, but it was actually repeated for several years, considering such an appearance a sign of a good harvest. For the ancient piuranos (people from Piura) it was like an eye, which set in heaven, watching everything. (contribution of the historian J. Cruz Villegas collected in the book A Brief History of Piura, Pre-Hispanic times, Reynaldo Moya Espinosa).[/


Trying to determinate a time frame :


Between 1965 and 1973 first and then in 1995, the anthropologist James Richardson of the Department of Anthropology at the University of Pittsburgh in Pennsylvania U.S. made ​​explorations in Amotape (Paita) and Quebrada Honda and Sicchez in Talara and found archaeological remains that guaranteed that the man had come to these places between 6,000 and 9,000 years before Christ. Specifically Amotape settlements was 9,000 BC

In 1958, teachers Isida, Izumi and dc Tereda Tokyo University explored the Tumbes River Valley and Lower Chira. Amotape paid special attention and at the place called Walls, and confined what other scientists had already secured, meaning that in that place there had been one of the oldest settlements on the coast.

In Illescas, south of Sechura have found two human settlements very different eras. The oldest is supposed Chorrillos an age of 7500 years and the latest Avic would have between 4,800 and 3,700 years old.


Anyway, the tallanes doesn't seem to be that old, and according to the history they met the spaniards.


Like most of northern Peru, the territory of Piura has been inhabited by their autochthonous group of natives called tallanes and yungas. These lived without an organization or single leader to rule until the Muchik culture eventually took control, and the mixture of these evolved into the Vicús culture. Centuries later, Piura came under the rule of Tupac Inca Yupanqui for at least 40 years, and before the Spanish arrived.


prehistoriapiura.tripod.com...

losenigmasdelasculturas.wordpress.com...

en.wikipedia.org...




posted on Sep, 14 2013 @ 05:54 PM
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Hey Truman

You might find Masse & Masse's
work on identifying cosmic impacts and ultra pliniian eruptions, in south America, through an analysis of regional mythology, interesting.
Here's a link to a pdf of the paper

tsun.sscc.ru...

S and f by the way



posted on Sep, 14 2013 @ 06:00 PM
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posted on Sep, 14 2013 @ 06:31 PM
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punkinworks10
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Hey Truman

You might find Masse & Masse's
work on identifying cosmic impacts and ultra pliniian eruptions, in south America, through an analysis of regional mythology, interesting.
Here's a link to a pdf of the paper

tsun.sscc.ru...

S and f by the way



Hey Punkin, thanks for that source, very interesting.

Anyway, according to the description it can't be a meteorite. The phenomena lasted way more time in the sky. I wonder what could it be???.....they said it lasted for years.
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posted on Sep, 14 2013 @ 07:16 PM
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An eye sitting in the sky sounds more like a nova or maybe a comet to me.

Harte



posted on Sep, 14 2013 @ 07:25 PM
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These beings have been phase shifting and warping through red nugget galaxies since they started creating galaxies billions of years ago!



posted on Sep, 14 2013 @ 07:37 PM
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Probably just a ring around the moon and sun due to cirrus clouds.



posted on Sep, 14 2013 @ 08:17 PM
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For years?



posted on Sep, 14 2013 @ 08:19 PM
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Harte
An eye sitting in the sky sounds more like a nova or maybe a comet to me.

Harte


Yeah, I thought about a Nova too, but would like some expert here to tell us how much is that possible.



posted on Sep, 14 2013 @ 09:04 PM
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A nova is a short term event lasting only a few days or weeks.
Now a large cometary fragment trapped in an inner solar system orbit could be a yearly event as the earth crosses it's orbit. Just like taurid meteor storm which is earth passing through the tail of the disintegrating comet enke.
They are what is left of a extremely large comet that was captured by the solar system nearly 40 k years ago.
There is ample evidence for impacts in SA for the time period n question.
To fully understand the idea I highly recomend reading Napier and Clubes work on the taurid progenitor comet.

Here's an abstract of w Napier's 2009 paper


Abstract
There is now compelling evidence that an exceptionally large (50-100 km) comet entered a short-period, Earth-crossing orbit some time in the Upper Palaeolithic, and underwent a series of fragmentations. During this disintegration the Earth was probably subjected to occasional episodes of intense bombardment. Such an episode might constitute a sensible astronomical framework for understanding the postulated catastrophe at 12,900 BP. Concentrations of sub- kilometre bodies may still exist in meteor streams and constitute a significant hazard. Such bodies are difficult to detect, and current deflection and mitigation strategies do not seem adequate to deal with them. For larger bodies, a paradox exists in that the number of comets expected to be thrown into Halley-type orbits (periods 20-200 years) is at least two orders of magnitude greater than observed. The fate of these comets is unknown, raising the prospect that a significant population of dark Earth-crossing comets may exist and adding further uncertainty to impact hazard assessments. Discrete bombardment episodes are evident in the well-dated impact record of the past 250 Myr and several coincide with transitions between geological periods. There is evidence that these episodes have a ∼ 35-37 Myr periodicity, which may be connected to Galactic disturbances of the Oort comet cloud. The threshold for periodicity begins for impact craters >∼ 40 km in diameter; since this is also the threshold which impact ejecta create worldwide conflagration, it again implies that comets are a significant, if not dominant, component of the global impact hazard.


journalofcosmology.com...

The taurids figure heavily in the genesis of world wide myth of angry gods, battles between the sun and moon, and such.
They also produce spectacular fireballs with long tails, that I belive are the origins of tails of dragons and flying feathered serpents.



posted on Sep, 15 2013 @ 08:51 AM
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There is speculation that Venus was hit by a large meteor approximately 3400 years ago and shone brightly for many years as a result of the impact, also be possible reason why Venus is spins counter to its rotation. If this is true, it would have been vastly brighter than today and would be visible during night and day and left indelible impression on earths cultures.
It would have made quote an impact and passed down by word of mouth for hundreds of years until being incorporated into calenders and charts.






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