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reply to post by James1982
Wrong, Christians do not support this. Sick and stupid people who happen to call themselves Christians do. Please do not blanket policy an entire culture (of which many are good people) because some monsters hide behind it.
Pepophiles often choose jobs or positions that allow them to gain trust amongst there community so they can then exploit that trust to fullfill there own sick desires.
Im really tired of people blaming or condemning all christians based on the misdeeds of a few. There are far more decent Christians than there are bad.
I suggest you find a story or two where someone or a group of people came together in the name of faith and did some good for the world. We don't hear about those stories as often because feel good news doesn't shock/sell.
reply to post by James1982
Again, your bigotry destroys your credibility.
It only makes sense to focus on the largest group that is perpetrating the vast majority of these acts.
But you didn’t do that!
The largest group perpetrating the vast majority of these acts are public school employees.!
If you’d read my linked thread and the internal cites, you would have seen the studies and statistics and records that prove it beyond any reasonable doubt.
Instead, you chose to ignore them, or decided to continue to present falsehoods and opinion as fact.
More to the point, this thread is about what a Christian youth pastor did. Hopefully that explains my focus on Christianity.
Again, your prejudice betrays your skewed mindset.
This story is about a judge who was completely wrong in his application of the law; ignoring the criminal’s employer/pastor, the victims, the prosecutors, and his own precedents! But you perversely twist into an indictment of Christianity. You are so caught up in your fear and loathing that you cannot see the trees for the forest.
You cannot honestly deny that the church has been involved in wide scale sexual abuse, and equally as concerning wide scale coverups.
You overlook that [I]there was no cover-up here[/I], and that some of the "encounters" were consensual with MEN, and that he was only convicted of 3 offenses; instead of the 60 over-charged by the State. Your premise falls flat!
You cannot honestly contend that U.S. Christians have anywhere near the 4.5 million sexual predators who take advantage of students over the course of their K-!! educations? There aren’t even 4 million priest in the U.S. Now, you have to make up criminals just to fit your fantasies and misrepresentations!
That is the subject of this thread, that was the focus of my post.
You can repeat that all you want, but it doesn’t change the truth:
If the guy had gotten life, we never would have heard of him or the case. The story is about the idiocy ofd a judge and legal system in this abuse of justice.
If anything that shows how bad the church is
THIS is youtr point; why not just come out and say it?
Why did I mention a priest?
Oh, so if it would’ve been a policeman or Nurse or homeless person, that would make everything AOK with you?
You cannot sustain this line, and still pretend to be sincere anymore. You hate the Christian faith/church, if not all organized religion.
How about all those charity hospitals they founded? The shelters and homes for the homeless or battered wives?
Just look around your community and see how many charities are named after saints and Christian organizations. That’s not good enough, though, is it?
The subject of this thread is specifically a certain youth pastor, my post expanded to cover the broader issue, what other term would you prefer I use?
Oh I don’t know. Maybe SATAN! Or an idiot Judge. Or a corrupt legal system. Or a deficient range of punishment available.
But we know which you prefer.
Look at the Anthony Wiener debacle, he was involved sexually with another consenting adult, texting pictures of a sexual nature. Not very classy, but not illegal, and absolutely nothing compared to what the church is guilty of, yet Anthony Wiener was plastered all over newspapers, tv, and the internet.
And, he LED THE POLLS until he proved himself to be a liar in addition to a pervert. You didn’t know that?
You are being very dishonest if you deny that they all get the same treatment, just from different sides of the media.
B. S. And you know it . I will not touch the T&Cs by telling you what you are.
You cannot and will not show me 4.5 million Christian predators. I can show you 4.5 million public school predators over the K-11 life of children in their care.
I'm not even sure how politicians and union members are relevant to this discussion.
School boards and education commissioners are ELECTED.
Teachers belong to any of three of the most powerful unions on the planet!
That’s why I asked where you've been for 25 years.
You distorted mindset is sad and contemptible. Put blame where it ;lays, not on your chosen scapegoats.
edit on 13-9-2013 by jdub297 because: (no reason given)
Why isn't every church in that area coming out and condemning this man's action?
When a church official gets in trouble for these perverted acts, the church rallies behind them.
17 years suspended sentence. Wonder how many times a week, the judge samples the pastor's anus.