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New Atheism is the name given to the ideas promoted by a collection of modern atheist writers who have advocated the view that "religion should not simply be tolerated but should be countered, criticized, and exposed by rational argument wherever its influence arises."
Malynn
reply to post by DeadSeraph
Yeah, that's still not defending pedophelia. You're really reaching. Dislike Richard Dawkins all you want. Dislike Atheists all you want. But insinuating someone is DEFENDING pedophelia when they are not? That is sick.
DeadSeraph
reply to post by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
I've already acknowledged that I was in error to paint all atheists with the same brush. The fact remains that Richard Dawkins is the face of New Atheism .
New Atheism is the name given to the ideas promoted by a collection of modern atheist writers who have advocated the view that "religion should not simply be tolerated but should be countered, criticized, and exposed by rational argument wherever its influence arises."
So for those who share that view, What exactly is rational about Dawkins statements?edit on 12-9-2013 by DeadSeraph because: (no reason given)
DeadSeraph
reply to post by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
New Atheism is the name given to the ideas promoted by a collection of modern atheist writers who have advocated the view that "religion should not simply be tolerated but should be countered, criticized, and exposed by rational argument wherever its influence arises."
So for those who share that view, What exactly is rational about Dawkins statements?
Is growing up in a healthy non-abusive Christian family worse than growing up being the victim of sexual abuse?
windword
reply to post by DeadSeraph
Is growing up in a healthy non-abusive Christian family worse than growing up being the victim of sexual abuse?
So, now you're changing the end goal. I find that offensive!
What is a non-abusive Christian family? One that doesn't preach about Satan, hell and demonic possession? Can a child choose to reject religious indoctrination and brainwashing?edit on 12-9-2013 by windword because: (no reason given)
DeadSeraph
reply to post by DigitalResonance
I'm sorry but that just doesn't cut it. A person can choose to reject religious doctrine. I have met many people who were raised in religious homes who turned out just fine, and chose to reject the beliefs of their parents. They live perfectly healthy, well adjusted lives.
A child doesn't choose to be the victim of sexual abuse. You can spin it all you want. I've read about all the "religious abuse" people have claimed to have suffered here. Abuse is abuse is abuse. I am not excusing abuse in any way shape or form. I contend that the claim sexual abuse is less damaging than religion is not only absurdly irrational, it is inexcusable.
Now I will ask you all one more time:
Is growing up in a healthy non-abusive Christian family worse than growing up being the victim of sexual abuse?
How can any of you rationally defend Dawkins' comments?
I am by no means downplaying your experiences, or how they affected you. But can you honestly say you were raised in a healthy family to begin with? How can you claim your "religious abuse" was worse than your sexual abuse when the one stemmed from the other? Abuse is abuse.
No logical person can claim that religion is worse than the sexual abuse of children. One is a philosophy, the other is an atrocity.