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Topic started on 18-5-2003 @ 04:49 AM by magestica
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HEY Y'all,
I was wondering(after watching Goonies and all) Do you guys know if there is or 'were' true pirates and can you give me any info about
them...please..I've always had a pretty big interest in them, but never really heard anything...except for movies or TV. Noone really talks about
them much. I have other questions, but not wanting to sound tooo dumb-I'll wait for replies and see if anyone touches on my questions
Thanks Mag
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reply posted on 18-5-2003 @ 05:04 AM by Abraham Virtue
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The Barbary Pirates of the Barbary Coast, along the northern shores of Africa were known to terrorize the seas in order to live and produce means for
their country. Many Barbary Pirates were natives of Tunisia, Morocco, Lybia, Eygpt, and Algeria.
Then again that is just one era of Pirates. There were Pirates, in the Native Americas, in India, in other parts of Africa, and just about anywhere a
criminal can find ones self. In fact Pirates exist still to this day. Somalia is said to have unprotected waters that won't be safe for at least 500
miles off the coastal borders of that poverty stricken land. That is the home of the radical 6-12 way war that slaughters the people of East Africa
whole.
Then I have also heard that the Pirates, and the symbol on the flag often associated with Pirates is a Brotherhood operation. One that was created by
the Skull and Bones master ranking creators, the Brotherhood of the Snake. This can be believed but not proven.
[Edited on 18-5-2003 by Abraham Virtue]
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reply posted on 18-5-2003 @ 05:06 AM by Nans DESMICHELS
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and they made a sort of anarcgy society in the caraibes island.
Some where idealists and other materialists that's why they didn't sucess in there are adventure.
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reply posted on 18-5-2003 @ 05:08 AM by Nans DESMICHELS
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Originally posted by Nans DESMICHELS
and they made a sort of anarcgy society in the caraibes island.
Some where idealists and other materialists that's why they didn't sucess in there are adventure. 
Some of them try a build a new kind of society in the island. A sort of "free land". The last one of these freeland is sealand. but it's bot a good
place, there are only huslters, slayers and hijackers...
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reply posted on 18-5-2003 @ 05:08 AM by Abraham Virtue
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Originally posted by Nans DESMICHELS
and they made a sort of anarcgy society in the caraibes island.
Some where idealists and other materialists that's why they didn't sucess in there are adventure. 
Many of these Pirates lived horrible lives. Still do to this day.
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reply posted on 18-5-2003 @ 05:09 AM by magestica
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I was also wondering if there were/are any pirates that were Icelandic or Nordic? Or were the vikings totally different and in no way affiliated with
pirates?
It certainly makes sense what you said in your last paragraph about the skull and bones and the 'brotherhood' I have kind of heard a little of that
mentioned here and there as well..
Thanks for your info AV
Magestica~
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reply posted on 19-5-2003 @ 01:48 PM by Gazrok
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There are real pirates...
Vikings were pirates of a sort, but not what we typically term "pirates". It's a time period moniker. Pirates still exist in the carribean,
though no longer hunting gold-laden spanish vessels, and focusing on drug running instead.
In my area (Tampa, FL), we actually have a parade, coupled with a mock invasion by pirates, in honor of Jose' Gaspar (i.e. the Gasparilla Parade...a
Mardi Gras-like festival) who used to port in Tampa. Why do you think our football team is called the Buccaneers?
Most pirates (as we think of them) were plying the seas and profitting from the ongoing war between England and Spain, some even operating with
letters of Marquee (acted as agents of one, against the other) that made them "legal" pirates (they couldn't be arrested in their home
ports)...though many simply attacked targets of opportunity.
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reply posted on 19-5-2003 @ 01:52 PM by Leveller
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Just tap in "South China Sea Pirate" into your search engine.
Those guys are more active there today than ever before.
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reply posted on 19-5-2003 @ 01:53 PM by Leveller
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Here's a good link for you:
www.wikipedia.org...
and here's another
www.iccwbo.org...
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reply posted on 19-5-2003 @ 01:57 PM by Daystar
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i dont know much on this subject but wasnt the legend of Bluebeard based on some french guy? (and before any wise-@$$ decides to say 'dont you mean
BLACKbeard' well i am getting to him)
blackbeard was an english pirate whose real name was william (i think it was william) Teach and he was most definately REAL.
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reply posted on 19-5-2003 @ 02:10 PM by magestica
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I'm also from Fla and we have a festival every year there as well, they even hide a treasure and everyone goes on the search for it lol! They have a
parade and fireworks and people dressed as pirates everywhere(I know boring little town)
But I just always kind of thought of pirates more as people who were travelers and thieves..yet maybe somewhat misunderstood. I wondered if they are
portrayed the way they actually were. So thanks for the info all and the links..I'll definately check them out!
Mag
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reply posted on 19-5-2003 @ 04:06 PM by Gazrok
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who sank their victims' ships, and killed the crew, others simply took the gold and left. From what I've read, it seems that most of the film
adaptations aren't too far off the mark. The movie Pirates of the Carribean will be coming out soon....looks awesome....
And yes, William Teach is who you are thinking of daystar....
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reply posted on 20-5-2003 @ 07:18 AM by Daystar
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fanx for clearing that up, gazrok - i wasnt sure if his name was william or edward
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reply posted on 20-5-2003 @ 09:43 AM by Gazrok
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His name was largely thought to be Edward William Teach, but sometimes he is referred to as William Thatch, or Edward Thatch, if I recall correctly.
That's likely why you had both names in your head....
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reply posted on 20-5-2003 @ 09:57 AM by Daystar
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fanx anyway
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reply posted on 20-5-2003 @ 09:59 AM by magestica
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Gosh! It took me over 24 hours to figure out what that festival in my town was called...Ahhhh relief now!!
Again thanks for all the info folks
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reply posted on 20-5-2003 @ 10:25 AM by Nans DESMICHELS
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Played a great role in war between Spain, UK and France. Surcouf was a french pirates who fight against britains military ship and destroyed many
english galions.
Caribeans pirates are also the first whitemen who abolitated slavery, considering black men as brothers.
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reply posted on 20-5-2003 @ 10:26 AM by Nans DESMICHELS
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Black Flag with Skull and Bones, and it's the Pirates Flag
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reply posted on 20-5-2003 @ 10:41 AM by ADVISOR
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Originally posted by Nans DESMICHELS
Caribeans corsaires like Jean BART, Surcouf and others

"Corsaires" were often pirates who recieved payment from nations to intercept and hunt down other pirates or to protect ship routes.
The skull and crossbones flag is known as the "Jolly Rogers", I have one just so I could fly it on my houseboat when I get it.
[Edited on 20-5-2003 by ADVISOR]
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reply posted on 20-5-2003 @ 11:00 AM by Gazrok
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Corsairs are often also referred to as "Freesails"...and are under the aforementioned "letters of marquee" from their sponsoring nation.
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