Dad finds and beats naked Perv outside of daughters window...Guess who could go to jail the longest?

And why are we paying good tax dollars to have this issue come before court? Sounds to me like the problem was solved. Real justice doesn't have to cost money. Meanwhile we stand around and argue about how much time, this and that, felony or not, who's crime was worse... Leave it alone, it's over and done.

Giving attention to this kind of behavior only nourishes it and helps it spread.

reply to post by PsykoOps


Besides that. I respect your feelings towards violence which I can tell you are against. Are you a father/mother yet? It is an immediate instinct to protect you children from predators and POTENTIAL predators.

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Known neighbor? Gets away? Seriously? And even if you were correct you are implying that detaining someone and beating someone is the same thing.

reply to post by Isittruee


If you want to protect your child you dont risk jail time for yourself. You dont risk serious bodily harm to yourself.

reply to post by PsykoOps


Are you implying the cops beating him then me something different? Let me fill you in. If he would of left my house bruise free he wouldn't of left the cruiser that way.

So now the argument is that just cause many cops are violent bullies it's ok to be one too? Never mind the possible conquences?

PsykoOps
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Known neighbor? Gets away? Seriously? And even if you were correct you are implying that detaining someone and beating someone is the same thing.

reply to post by Isittruee

 

If you want to protect your child you dont risk jail time for yourself. You dont risk serious bodily harm to yourself.

edit on 10/9/2013 by PsykoOps because: (no reason given)

Me shooting you wouldn't get me ANY trial time where I am. I do have a no trespassing sign up as law says though. As beware of dogs and my dogs are protective.

I just see it differently then you. I'll protect my family and not rely on the "law" to do it.

Yes sure cause it's legal to go around "your property" picking off anyone on sight. That's abit far fetched.

PsykoOps
Yes sure cause it's legal to go around "your property" picking off anyone on sight. That's abit far fetched.

No sir, never. You walking through my property and looking through my daughters window NAKED is very different.

Even breaking out my truck window to get my things I would chase you down and try to wrestle you down for the cops.

You try to hurt my family or disturb that sense of safe where my family lays their head at I will shoot.

Yes a teenager girl being peeped at is emotionally damaging and disturbing their sense of safe.

Could you sleep if you though someone was looking in at you?
Yes yes, call the cops.
Will I be back or won't I?

reply to post by PsykoOps


Like I said though not arguing down your opinion, just stressing mine. I respect your opinion. Off to bed with me. Good night sir.

Stars to you. Thanks for the debate.

Yeah, let's all throw a pity party for the psycho-pervy-naked VICTIM. Boo hoo. The naked guy looking through the little girls window got beat up so lets all empathize with this filthy piece of garbage because a father had the audacity to take offense and protect his child.

What? The child didn't need protecting? If someone tells you they are going to kill you do you wait for them to attempt it before you attack them? No, they already attacked you when they said they were going to kill you.

Does the father have to wait for the daughter to be raped before attacking the pervert? No, he already attacked when he took off his clothes and was standing outside the girls window naked.

Now I know some of you Harvard wannabe legal analysts are going to come on here and attempt to shoot me down and that's ok. I have a daughter also and the only thing that father did wrong was to leave that piece of garbage breathing.

I told this story to my mom and she said that a police officer once told my grandmother (her mom) that if something like this happens you drag them inside your house after the beating. Then you call the police.

mikelkhall
That's really a shame. I can't blame the father since I would have probably done the same thing he did. I guess the scumbag is pressing charges against the father for beating the crap out of him. I mean, damn, all he did was stand naked at a little girls window doing who knows what.

God does know what he was doing and so do we. That's why if it were MY daughter, I'm sure I would be in jail for murder. Sorry, but that would be my tipping point....for real.

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I believe that it goes without saying if we read the majority of posts here on this thread.

Do not mess around with my family or loved ones or you will recieve the brunt end of whatever i have in my hands, regardless of what the law says...

There are lots of pertinet, respected and understandable posts here about how the criminal may end up as a "victim" so to speak because of the way that the father reacted...

Have any one of you posters who condone the way the father reacted so violently (according to the news article) stopped to consider how a judge or policeman/woman or even yourself would react if they were in the same situation?... REALLY???

REALLY PICTURE IN YOUR MIND THAT IT IS YOUR MOTHER, FATHER, SISTER, BROTHER, GRAN, GRANDAD, CHILD Etc etc etc...

If they were a loving and caring parent they would not let the law get the better... they would use natural instinct to protect their children and/or loved ones... and that... is a common known fact!!!

Prove that all of us parents here on ATS are wrong and i will eat my hat!

No-one threatens, touches or harms in any way one of my loved ones if i am physically there at the moment and gets away lightly if i catch that person. (i would even go as far as hunting that person down if the police are not capable, in order to bring them to justice... and if they are violent when i subdue them, then i will use violence equally to stop them...)

Kindest respects

Rodinus

Coming into this discussion a bit late, but as a father of a young daughter; If I caught someone in the 'act' as this naked guy was, I'd naturally assume that at some point his offending was likely to escalate to something more sinister, so I'd be sure wanting to send him a MESSAGE.

But having said the above, I believe the issue for the 'devil advocates' on here is that at what point do we draw a line as to what 'justifies' taking violent, and possible deadly action against an offender, and is it our right to take that action, when no physical or invasive action has been taken by the pervert?

What if your 14 year old daughter comes to you one day, and says that a family member or close associate had been molesting her since she was 6? Do you fly into a rage, grab a weapon and drive to his home or work, then let him have it?

Based on what a lot of people have been saying here, they'd most likely agree that the SOB deserves whatever happens to him, including death. Problem is, accusations like the above, including FALSE happen all the time. Not only could someone be seriously beaten and or killed, they may be entirely INNOCENT.

Here's an example where high profile UK Coronation Street actor Michael Le Vell has just been FOUND INNOCENT of multiple sex charges, including rape.

Now imagine if that innocent man had the misfortune of being in the wrong US neighborhood, and was accused by the daughter of one of the more fiery members here...not just his life could have been lost and his family impacted, but also the ramifications would have been huge for the person, and family of the one the took the law into their own hands, against an INNOCENT MAN

After hearing about Michael Le Vell's acquittal today, and then reading this post and the comments, it made me think long and hard about how my first 'natural' reaction in anything to do with abusing children, is to think violent punishment, the reality is that other than stopping someone in the ACT, all other scenarios should only involve the police and the Justice System.

We create and need laws for a reason as they also protect us from our own potential wrong actions, that could end up robbing your own family of their father, if jailed for assault or manslaughter.

Sometimes being a father requires more than just 'reacting' to situations...you also have to think of the CONSEQUENCES of your actions.

Just my two bobs worth.

reply to post by Rodinus


That's right Rodinus! It's a natural instinct. Have you ever seen what a mother lioness or mother elephant will do to another animal that threatens its young? It ain't pretty, I'll say that much!

reply to post by SpaceJockey1


This is true....however if the dude is naked outside her window doing "things"....well it's game ON....it's obvious what he's doing. In the other cases of hear say....the law need to sort that out.

StealthyKat
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That's right Rodinus! It's a natural instinct. Have you ever seen what a mother lioness or mother elephant will do to another animal that threatens its young? It ain't pretty, I'll say that much!

I have indeed SK... don't forget i am a vet (unless you were not aware?) who has specialised in this particular field (including old and new world primates)!

Kindest respects

Rodinus

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No, I was not aware....awesome! Primates will do some serious carnage too!

Any logical person surely would understand that if you behaved in this manner outside a child's bedroom and were caught by their father, they will beat upon you.

It's like going up to a gang of bikies and spitting in their faces. They will do the same.

And for those who believe that violence doesn't solve problems, you are unfortunately wrong. It's a nice catch-phrase, but the truth is violence is an incredibly effective way to solve some problems. That's why every country has a military.