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Dad finds and beats naked Perv outside of daughters window...Guess who could go to jail the longest?

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posted on Sep, 11 2013 @ 08:33 AM
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And for those who believe that violence doesn't solve problems, you are unfortunately wrong. It's a nice catch-phrase, but the truth is violence is an incredibly effective way to solve some problems.


Yeah sure,


and create 3 more by resolving 1.



posted on Sep, 11 2013 @ 08:53 AM
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Yeah...There no other way to be a good parent and a good protector of the family.... by protecting them while locked up in JAIL!

Know your limit, play within it.

This way perv gets "justice" and you stay out of jail.



posted on Sep, 11 2013 @ 09:53 AM
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InhaleExhale
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I wonder if you would be so apathetic if you walked in on a group of pervs gang raping your sister or your mother or your grandmother.


Oh my your posts in this thread are shocking and lack any humane thought.

You think this sick act you want readers to envision is the same violent crime as what the sick perv was doing?


How do you know the pedophiles natural progression?


Why do you sit there and think of these sick things or are a psycho-analyst of some sort?




Many peadophiles are closet, that is to say, its enough looking at kiddy porn or going to the local park nd talking photos..however with some, the urge is just toooooooo great, and looking turns to touching...
This guy held swinger partys in his house, walks around the neighbourhood nude and is a known peeping tom..so there is a history of sexual misconduct (not in reference to the swinger partys).

Maybe the chump was bored with his parties and thought he try something new...like the neighbours daughter perhaps..a normal peeping tom doesnt turn to peadophile overnight, it's got to be in him from the start..maybe he just hasn't has the guts for it unitl now..

In reference to my earlier comments, they guy was just so apathetic and so sympathising with the perp, it was just unreal.
It was honest opinion he was in need of a reality check..he needed to put himself in the shoes of a person who felt one of his children was directly under threat by a sexual predator. As he has no children himself, i used near family members hoping to make him see that the father wasn't "fullfilling his sadistic needs" as he kept saying, just reacting as a parent (be they human or animal) does when he/they feel one of their young is about to be harmed in the worst possible way...

Only those who have children can understand..



posted on Sep, 11 2013 @ 10:06 AM
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NuclearPaul
Any logical person surely would understand that if you behaved in this manner outside a child's bedroom and were caught by their father, they will beat upon you.

It's like going up to a gang of bikies and spitting in their faces. They will do the same.

And for those who believe that violence doesn't solve problems, you are unfortunately wrong. It's a nice catch-phrase, but the truth is violence is an incredibly effective way to solve some problems. That's why every country has a military.


Unfortunately, there are a few here on ATS who believe it is better to turn the other cheek.
What the father did was a natural knee jerk reaction on finding a perv butt naked by the window of his daughter.
Who knows what might have happened if he hadn't of caught him.
I'd like to see the reaction of certain people here in this thread if they came home at night to find the perv, schlong in hand, looking at thier kids through the bedroom window.

"I say, you, yon pervert....let go of your "john Thomas" my good man, for my daughter is a light sleeper and the sound of you furiously masturbating will without doubt wake her up.
And get down from that there tree, and be careful you dont hurt yourself in the process.
Now you just sit down and stay there whilst i go and ring 911. When the police eventually arrive i hope they give you a damn good talking to about going out a night without clothes on, you could catch your death of cold, you fool.
Now i understand you may have certain "urges", but for that there are ladies who work the highways..
Now you just try and keep warm whilst i bring you some cocoa, the police will take a while to arrive i suppose.."

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posted on Sep, 11 2013 @ 10:06 AM
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Okay now I have to weigh in. I appreciate that you don't condone violence. Commendable of you. For the most part, neither do I. For the father though, this would fall under the category of "crime of passion." I'm sure he probably feels bad about sending him to the hospital. I know I would. I also know that if I caught a man naked or not, staring into my young daughter's window (possibly even touching himself), all sorts of things would whir through my mind, and I see red.

I for one believe in turning the other cheek, but when your family, and especially your children are at stake, waiting 15 minutes for cops to show up is unacceptable. Could you wait? Or would you take action in the moment, and pray God gives you strength to stop the man and stop yourself before you go too far?



posted on Sep, 11 2013 @ 10:09 AM
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Exactly my thoughts. "Let go of your John Thomas." I'm a reformed crass-minded man, but that was funny.
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edit on 11-9-2013 by JackSparrow17 because: Quote mishap. "It's not my fault!" ~Lando



posted on Sep, 11 2013 @ 10:13 AM
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There is nothing wrong with knocking the sht out of him and tying him up for the cops to arrive.. by vigilante justice for no physical harm by the perv?

I would not bring a person close to death for that, i'm sure hope the perv will get the beat and other "stuff" in jail.

Most advocates here are discussing the limit of the father not why he acted because why he acted is clearly for anyone.



posted on Sep, 11 2013 @ 10:14 AM
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SpaceJockey1
Here's an example where high profile UK Coronation Street actor Michael Le Vell has just been FOUND INNOCENT of multiple sex charges, including rape.


The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

Couple of things. #1 I don't know how it works over in the UK, but in the USA courts don't find anyone innocent. The comparable ruling is Not Guilty. That doesn't mean a person didn't commit the acts of which he was accused. It means there wasn't sufficient evidence presented to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he was guilty.

#2 Being accused in a he said/she said situation is very different than catching someone in the act. Now let's say you observe what the specifics of this situation are, not a person out for a leisurely evening stroll who cuts across a corner of your yard, but a naked person outside your child's window fondling himself. You yell, he runs away, you call the police. No evidence, no charges.

Two weeks later, thus emboldened, the guy actually climbs into a child's window and assaults her -or- him. Now how do you feel about your choice?

If we know anything about child predators, it's that they don't stop, they don't get 'cured'. They do what they do until they're rendered unable to do it.

Everyone has to live with their choices. I know the choice I'd make, and I'd sleep like a baby.


As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



posted on Sep, 11 2013 @ 10:17 AM
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That just assumption he will be back next time. He might have even be scared that some man was living in that house just from the voice. The perv usually look for target that does not have a male or strong persons present.

Why do you say to teenagers shop lifting? cut their hands off? seems like what you are suggesting.



posted on Sep, 11 2013 @ 11:15 AM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

You misunderstand. I didn't mean to imply he'd come back to the same location. Just that inevitably he'll do it again somewhere, and the possibility the next time wouldn't be so benign.

If you want to discuss teenage shoplifting, feel free to start another thread. I see no basis for comparison between youthful indiscretion and predatory pedophilia. If you do, we have no framework for discussion.


As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



posted on Sep, 11 2013 @ 12:18 PM
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With all the sexual deviancy, murdered children, kidnapped people, sex slave trade there is a tipping point, and I do believe that some are to the point of "Shoot Shovel SHUT UP".

I will be amazed if the jury finds the dad guilty of anything.
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posted on Sep, 11 2013 @ 03:08 PM
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I hope new evidence comes to light that shows that the window was open and that the punk was half-way through the window. Then it would be a case of stand-your-ground.



posted on Sep, 11 2013 @ 04:16 PM
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expatwhite
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2 things i think should be considered here

1 - the Daily Mail. They have been known to "be liberal" with certain truths

2 - The fact that the article says COULD face longer sentence.

I would hope that in any reasonable court of law that the dad would be let off with a slap on the wrist and no more. Otherwise the world really has gone loony tunes
. The world has been Looney tunes for quite a while. You must be new to these parts. Welcome. Take my advise. Just find humor in everything.... cause none of this is real. It's all just a game. Your gonna see some really whacked out sh$t.



posted on Sep, 11 2013 @ 06:50 PM
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Could've would've should've. I can do that too.
Would you sleep like a baby after beating a guy to coma and turns out that he is retarted with the IQ of 5 year old and had absolutely no idea what he was doing? Someone whose supervision failed. That's why civilized society has court system.



posted on Sep, 11 2013 @ 06:54 PM
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If the mentally challenged is beating off naked outside of my childs window, I will make sure he doesn't do it again. It's amazing that you don't see the danger of letting these sickos run loose in society saying " They had a bad childhood" all the while they rape,molest, and do untold amounts of damage to our children who fall prey to them.

No, it's an incurable disease and if caught in the act they need to be removed from society.



posted on Sep, 11 2013 @ 06:54 PM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

Apparently you can also assume. Not once have I ever said I'd beat anyone into a coma, so your projection is irrelevant, to me anyway.


As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



posted on Sep, 11 2013 @ 07:00 PM
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Funny how you just dismiss my reply when I did the exact same thing you did. Talk about projection.



posted on Sep, 11 2013 @ 07:09 PM
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Should have killed him and dumped his body in the forest. Then maybe he wouldn't be facing ANY jail time and the world would be a better place.



posted on Sep, 11 2013 @ 07:24 PM
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PsykoOps
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Could've would've should've. I can do that too.
Would you sleep like a baby after beating a guy to coma and turns out that he is retarted with the IQ of 5 year old and had absolutely no idea what he was doing? Someone whose supervision failed. That's why civilized society has court system.


Oh my god. You are so right. That guy could have been totally innocent and that barbarian of a father should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

That father was such a moron thinking that his daughter might have been in danger with so little evidence being presented to him.

I have a daughter and thank god I'm not stupid enough to jeopardize my life or liberty over something as trivial as a grown man standing outside her window, but-ass naked, making noises.

Thank goodness we have so many upright, moral law abiding citizens on this site to help steer the less fortunate members away from such primitive thoughts as honor, integrity, courage, loyalty and respect.

Thank you so much for keeping us on the straight and narrow.



posted on Sep, 11 2013 @ 11:26 PM
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Give the father a commendation .. then when the pervert is out of hospital cane him and imprison him. But with no justice in western countries anymore they will charge the father and probably release the perv who most likely will try to sue the father for beating him .. and people wonder why I view western society as a cesspool this case is a prime example of whats wrong ...




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