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Firstly, Obama seems to have no fear continuing to be demonized for his speech, neither his actions. Don't you find that a little interesting? Some say it's because he is just playing his part. But the man is human, also. He will possibly have nowhere to go in this world for him and his family to enjoy at all, anywhere, because of the action that he is willing to take. In order for someone to sacrifice so much, he must believe in -something- opposed to his own aspirations. There is some credit due here.
I, by myself, could play all of you like this, if I so desired. Imagine what an entire community of elite conspirators can do to you.
and methinks the only ones trying to play us here is the Op and his zionist fellow traveler revealed as such by their poorly disguised hatred of Aram
edit on 10-9-2013 by TheMagus because: (no reason given)
Okay, first of all, that description about the men ganging up on the woman in the bar was pretty disturbing. Women aren't resources.
Wrong. I never said that. YOU said that. Obama does not generally go against his aspirations; so therefore, it is admirable in this manner. I believe going for your aspirations is not a bad thing. But I also believe in being given a test to determine your mettle. I think this is his. And I think you know what I meant at any rate, so why are you making me to tell you what you already understand?
Second of all, yeah, you hit upon an important point. Believing in something opposed to one's own aspirations allows for Western society to function.
Headed? See how you want to argue my points, and then...
If that falls apart, not a single one of us is going to be able to survive in a world where everyone is out for themselves. And we are quite possibly headed straight there.
And the last sentence of yours I quoted. I don't think that is good at all that you can do that if you wanted to. Although this is not a personal insult, I mean it as a symptom of the future.
Think about a world where everyone could "play all of you like this." How quickly would your personal bluff be called? How long until it got exhausting? How many years do you think you would make it out of 30 or so?
Just some meta-analysis. Actually, I agree with your thread, I'm just adding another level to it. All of the psychological evidence presented in your thread actually points to someone with your perspective trying to play people, possibly without even realizing it.
My immediate reaction is to come to the exact opposite conclusion than the one you are presenting.edit on 10-9-2013 by darkbake because: (no reason given)
All I get from this post is that you are well versed in the rules of debate. You don't present any facts to support your concept, which is all this is. A very interesting concept I will say but a concept only. On a site like ATS I understand facts are a rarity so you may come back with something like "there are no facts to support otherwise." That is true, at least facts that we can trust. Which is why we can't just trust what you are saying. You say our president must believe in something more and that is why he shows no sway to the publics opinion. It may be simpler than you think. Obama said a while back that using chemical weapons would be the last straw. Syria just attempted to call his bluff (or not depending on what you believe) and he does not want to back down. So you see, you are not shedding light on a subject that you think we are in the dark about. You are just creating a conspiracy theory about a conspiracy theory.
Propaganda - the most underestimated tool in the game of chess, but the one most feared, and therefore the most effective.