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posted on Sep, 10 2013 @ 11:03 AM
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reply to post by TheMagus
 


From my point of view, you're way out there.

I don't know what an nlp course is, and neither do I know what an ericksonian speech structure is.

What I do know is the truth; something I didn't learn from any human beings, but by much focus and consideration on being completely aware, intuitive, honest, and strong.

You could say I learned from people, but not in the positive; I learned what not to be, what not to do, and what not to say. That's how I learned from people.

But it sounds like the trauma you believe you received from your supposedly sociopath dad has set you on a path of judgment without discernment.

IT would be easy for your enemy to bring you down. You should mend that.




posted on Sep, 10 2013 @ 11:30 AM
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Looks like everyone is using positional logic against you
TarzanBeta. That if you are against non action somehow
you _must_ be for war. Even though you never spoke of,
nor called for, war. In anyway what-so-ever.



They hate him that rebuketh in the gate, and they abhor him that speaketh uprightly.

Amos 5:10


It's too late for the Warning TarzanBeta,
The move to capture the Chems should have come suddenly
in the first week of August, now the stones have started to
move and all we can do is try to not be downslope of them.


In their arguments against you they are not interested in
being right, only that no one else can be right without their
permission.







Enough about you,
I will now speak with your detractors.

Did the reader know that once long ago, before the
destruction of Jerusalem, a man came with instruct-
ions to tell the inhabitants to eat-#-and-die?



thou shalt eat it as barley cakes, and thou shalt bake it with dung that cometh out of man, in their sight. And the LORD said, Even thus shall the children of Israel eat their defiled bread among the Gentiles, whither I will drive them.

Ezekiel 4


Everyone thought he was mad, yet Jerusalem did fall.






Enough history,
Now I shall state my opinion on the matters before us.

The entire rest of the world thinks that America owes
them something.
That we consume too many resources,
that we are over weight, that we should be reigned in.

What if that list of seven countries in five years was
made because those were the most evil and oppre-
ssive countries in the world. Has anyone thought of
that?

I think that cries of hypocrisy and videos of town hall
ambushes by angry people are useful, but not when we
are two seconds away from winning the world.


The Banksters are bad, yes. I agree. But they have
already molested us, and yet we are still here. We are
Not like Iran where hundreds are hung to death every
year. We are Not like Syria where protesters are shot
in the street.

If we survived it, what makes Syria and Iran so sacred
that we must scream as loud as we can to spare them.
Or was that the plan all along. That the secret world
banking forces always knew they would have to control
two things in the end.

    1) That drugs are treated as criminal instead of a medical problem.
    2) That an isolated country of executioners will be needed to enforce that.




See in America the favorite method of destroying any
TPTB don't approve of is through the use of planted
kiddy pr0n. Even one's own friend will desert them if
that charge is laid. This is why the media machine
has turned so hard on Miley Cyrus. She broke the
spell of the pedo-bear.

But that only works in America, other countries have
other Taboos. Over the past one hundred years a
new taboo has been put in place. The criminalization
of a medical condition. Namely drugs. No one blinks
an eye when the State takes every possession a
person has because of drugs. No one blinks an eye
when the army is sent into a land to burn a drug field.

Amazon: Drug Crazy: How We Got into This Mess and How We Can Get Out

The history of modern Iran is one of ninja's, secret
hit squads, and a death penalty stance against the
use or trafficking of drugs.

Of course the secret world wide bank wants to keep
Iran intact. Their hit squads are to be the enforce-
ment arm used against anyone who doesn't go along
in the future. The ultimate contract killers, who
act because they truly believe they are morally in
the right. When drug use should really be an issue
between a person and their doctor.

I said it three years ago, I say it again now.


The day after all religion is erased from America
an Islamic president will be in office and declare
sharia law.

ATS 2010: Irreligion in the United States


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/TLDR
TarzanBeta is right, we are being double played

Mike

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posted on Sep, 10 2013 @ 12:07 PM
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TarzanBeta

For before, if you had this wisdom, it would have worked. But they knew your reaction would be this way this time, for it is your mode of operation. So therefore, you are predictable. And therefore now was the time for them to truly get away with their crimes. Because they knew that because we are now listening to alternative news sources more, that they could spin the evidence for the alternative news sites and therefore cause you to believe exactly what they want you to believe. In this way, they can now, and then begin a track record, of getting away with committing crimes without repercussions.


Who is this "they" you're referring to?

As far as I can tell, nobody who isn't in on the action has a real clue who set off the chemical attacks. There are various news bites that hint at different sources. Each has their own agenda to paint a different picture. Taking the angle that all the major news syndicates root from the same sources owned by the "elite" (which I think is a vast oversimplification), it means they're just trying to create chaos and allow people to choose whatever side they believe in, keeping people divided while continuing on.

I think this that regardless of how this started, interests are being pursued on all sides. The US has reason to get involved outside of "humanitarian" support, obviously. I think you're over-thinking this one, while concurrently oversimplifying. There isn't any one side of propaganda that people would be falling into. All information being mass propagated is biased, and spin of some sort. Welcome to reality.



posted on Sep, 10 2013 @ 12:12 PM
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I edited my post and this second one popped up?! strange.

I wonder if this edit of my second causes a third to show up?!


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posted on Sep, 10 2013 @ 12:15 PM
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I know most don't want to hear it, but the bible already layed this out perfectly already. War in the middle east, once this happens and the temple for Jesus is rebuilt, we have 5 years left.....But I won't go into many details because most of ATS doesn't want to hear that the bible was right or Jesus was actually real, etc....

I sure know the truth and I wish some of you ATSers did too, I would really enjoy your company in heaven with me!



posted on Sep, 10 2013 @ 12:26 PM
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Most do not want to know the Truth but for them that do here is a link to read endtimepilgrim.org...
It does not take a lot of wisdom to know what the abomination of desolation is. The Mid east war would bring an end to that, for it is going to be a war of beliefs, teachings and thoughts.



posted on Sep, 10 2013 @ 01:39 PM
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Why is when people have a debate about war the anti war crowd always says something like. "Why do you go sign up and fight." As if the only way anyone is allowed to have an opinion about real world situations that doesn't directly involve their precense. This debate is always one sided. I doubt many people believe war is a great thing. You cant just fart rainbows all over corrupt nations. SOMETIMES their is a real world need to go to war. When people are being oppressed and slaughtered in the 100,000 death range. It's quite clear their needs to be a discussion on intervention.
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posted on Sep, 10 2013 @ 01:47 PM
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It is their civil war not ours to go and get involved in! We had Nam, Korea, and our own civil war, if England in 1860 thought as you do would we be under crown rule? do we need to be in an other country's war? Where nether side is a friend to the US ?



posted on Sep, 10 2013 @ 02:03 PM
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bekod
reply to post by SexNinja
 
It is their civil war not ours to go and get involved in! We had Nam, Korea, and our own civil war, if England in 1860 thought as you do would we be under crown rule? do we need to be in an other country's war? Where nether side is a friend to the US ?


It's not just their civil war when obviously China and Russia have picked sides! The people in the middle east are getting tired of extremists leaders and dictators. South Korea seems to be doing pretty damn good! While N. Korea doesn't seem to being to well. Hmm. China and Russia both backed N. Korea. Syria is Irans ally. Cmon!



posted on Sep, 10 2013 @ 02:18 PM
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Are they their fighting for either side? , no, not that we know of, but we US are trying to get in , McCain would... if he had his way,put ground force in there, same with Kerry... do you see Briton or France making moves? , no they listened to their people.

We are the only ones that seem not to listen.... 60% of the people, saying not our mess, stay out of it.

Something is being done to prevent a full, blown war, Syria, Russia, and the UN are in the moves to take away the Chemicals , this is what we all want. We can bring Assad to UN court later on war crimes. if it is proved he did it.

If and when proof is shown he did it, then and only then, will I jump on the war band wagon.... till then it is not our mess to get involved in.
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posted on Sep, 10 2013 @ 02:29 PM
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First Assad denied having chemical weapons. Chemical weapons were used. After chemical weapons were used now Assad is willing to turn them over. The U.N. is a joke .Because the most prosperous and free nation on earth should not take the do nothing approach to world problems. S. Korea is a testament. 50 million liberated in Iraq, in 20 yrs if they are a prosperous nation another huge win! History will judge!



posted on Sep, 10 2013 @ 02:39 PM
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If you were walking down the street and saw through a window and adult beating a child to death. Would you intervene? What if other people saw this isn't your neighborhood and that not your child therefore its not your business. Would this child abusers golfing buddy be able to persuade you not to take action? By your logic yes.
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posted on Sep, 10 2013 @ 02:44 PM
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putin makes more demads as if this was not cooming
worldnews.nbcnews.com... from the link

Putin makes more demands as Obama agrees to UN discussion of Russia's Syria proposal

Syria's Foreign Minister Walid al-Moualem told NBC News' Keir Simmons in Moscow that he hoped acceptance of Russia's "peaceful solution" would "put an end to the war."

By Alastair Jamieson, Albina Kovalyova and Keir Simmons, NBC News
Russian President Vladimir Putin said Tuesday a proposal for Syria to hand over chemical weapons will not succeed unless the United States and its allies reject the use of force against Syria.
Putin’s statement came not long after President Barack Obama agreed to discuss the plan, after Damascus confirmed it would accept such a deal.
“All this will work only in case we hear that American side and all those who support it will denounce using force,” Putin said in televised remarks.
According to a senior administration official, Obama was changing his speech Tuesday afternoon to reflect the latest diplomatic developments. The president prepared to address Congress and the American people to make the case for the use of military strikes if diplomatic solutions fail.
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The president does still believe that a military option has to stay on the table, the official said, in response to Putin's suggestion.
seems to be a push comes to shove over Syria



posted on Sep, 10 2013 @ 02:48 PM
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It is not my job to play cop , this is why we have the 911 system now if i knew the person and child you bet I would step in, but not knowing the person or the situation non of my bis to step ,act yes.... act as to call the authority's, nothing more nothing less.
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posted on Sep, 10 2013 @ 02:55 PM
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when did he deny having them? from the beginning this has been the issue , he has Chems , they must not fall into rebel hands.... look that up,He denies using them would you shoot your self in the foot ? I still think it was the rebels that did it, to bring the US in and so far it has not worked , bet anything an other attack comes. before Russia has a chance to get them out. The rebels need US to win or they lose.



posted on Sep, 10 2013 @ 03:00 PM
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bekod
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when did he deny having them? from the beginning this has been the issue , he has Chems , they must not fall into rebel hands.... look that up,He denies using them would you shoot your self in the foot ? I still think it was the rebels that did it, to bring the US in and so far it has not worked , bet anything an other attack comes. before Russia has a chance to get them out. The rebels need US to win or they lose.

'Bashar Assad's Foreign Ministry flatly denied the American charges. "Of course Syria has no chemical weapons. They (Americans) have been talking for years about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. But so far, the presence of these weapons has not been confirmed," said ministry spokeswoman Bouthayna Shaaban.

www.dailymail.co.uk...
www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Sep, 10 2013 @ 03:03 PM
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Calling the police is intervention. However it is not minding your own business.



posted on Sep, 10 2013 @ 03:04 PM
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TarzanBeta
reply to post by TheMagus
 


From my point of view, you're way out there.

I don't know what an nlp course is, and neither do I know what an ericksonian speech structure is.

What I do know is the truth; something I didn't learn from any human beings, but by much focus and consideration on being completely aware, intuitive, honest, and strong.

You could say I learned from people, but not in the positive; I learned what not to be, what not to do, and what not to say. That's how I learned from people.

But it sounds like the trauma you believe you received from your supposedly sociopath dad has set you on a path of judgment without discernment.

IT would be easy for your enemy to bring you down. You should mend that.




From my point of view, you're way out there.

flattering will get you nowhere stripling

you've learned nothing from human beings? are the rocks and trees telling you to go to war?
maybe you should do as they tell you to do, instead of trying to convince others

you've learned nothing it seems,
except how to "go along to get along"

"You should mend that"


and your failing attempt to goad me into a T&C violation is as transparent
as your cognitive disconnect.

particularly the fact that you're contradicting yourself constantly [within the same sentence usually ]pretty much puts paid to any credibility regarding any subjects.

this should be obvious to all now that you've allowed this foolishness to come out of your mouth



What I do know is the truth





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posted on Sep, 10 2013 @ 03:16 PM
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"They" represents the enemy in general; the enemies of truth. And the Syrians are responsible, whether it is considered government or rebel. It still happened in Syria and Assad has taken -no- action against the rebels for this act. In fact, nobody has taken any action at all. Everyone is pointing fingers at everyone else.

This is another very old trick.

Under whose authority it happened, they are the ones who should be acting. They are not. They are therefore accomplices at the very least; which means they are responsible for the act.

We should have acted immediately.



posted on Sep, 10 2013 @ 03:17 PM
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and methinks the only ones trying to play us here is the Op and his zionist fellow traveler
revealed as such by their poorly disguised hatred of Aram

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