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Originally posted by finalaccount2008
I take my gay friend to church all the time, and like anybody else he has his own struggles. I always wonder if we are judged for this by the church. At skate church (like a youth group type deal), a guy who was walking across the nation from Oregon to New York visited us. He said he was on this walk to stop people from bullying, because not only did he have to fight frequently in high school due to bullying, but his fifteen year old son commited suicide as he just couldn't take the bullying he was enduring at school anymore. He said his son wasn't sexually active, and that in the bible it says no one sin is worse than another. I remember as i'm sure most of you do the story of how we are not to throw a stone at somebody in judgement because we are all sinners in one way or another.
K, that's my rant, how does ATS feel about homosexuality and Jesus?
I could easily be wrong, and that might be what's causing some confusion in my mind, but I see homosexuality as a desire, an inclination, a tendency, to be physically attracted to someone of the same sex. I don't see that as a sin, neither does the Catholic Church. I don't know about other religions' positions.
So you think according to scripture that homosexuality is a sin? I could see that. Just seems unfair to me since gays are born gay from what I can see.
I've sinned HORRIBLY in my life almost killing somebody and being a felon and a womanizer and a dealer in the past, but now I'm alot better.[/quote] I'm very happy for you. Just as an aside, not all crimes are sins and not all sins are crimes.
To show you how confusing this can get; I love Darth_Prime, I kind of like him but I don't know him as well as I'd like to (I think there's a lot of sensitivity and love in him), and I think some his actions go against what God wants for him, he should look into that and reconsider his path. I want him to be eternally happy. Darth_Prime has to do what he can, and rely on God for the rest.
In the same way, I should reconsider my path to avoid any "sin areas" that I might be susceptible to, and pray for God's mercy.
Originally posted by finalaccount2008
reply to post by charles1952
Good post. So you think according to scripture that homosexuality is a sin? I could see that. Just seems unfair to me since gays are born gay from what I can see. I've sinned HORRIBLY in my life almost killing somebody and being a felon and a womanizer and a dealer in the past, but now I'm alot better.
BTW, my pops (pictured in my avi) was born in '52! Gotta love baby-boomers
As far as I know, Jesus never mentioned homosexuality much less condemn it. You'd think if homosexuality really was a sin and against God's wishes, he would have said something about it, but he didn't.
Either he thought of it as a non-issue or those who put the NT together intentionally left his teachings of it out of their book because he taught that it was not a sin. Either way, being gay is not a sin and is completely natural.
Over 1,500 species of animals show homosexual behavior, so it definitely isn't a choice either.
On numerous occasions, Jesus condemned the sins of adultery (Matthew 19:18), sexual immorality (Matthew 19:9) and fornication (Matthew 15:19). These terms describe any type of sexual intercourse that is not within the confines of a marriage ordained by God. Jesus then proceeded to define exactly what God views as a morally permissible marriage. He stated:
Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning made them male and female, and said, “For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh”? So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate (Matthew 19:4-6).