'Several thousand' North Korean prisoners feared dead -

Several thousand' North Korean prisoners feared dead

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Thousands of North Korean prisoners may have died after a notorious prison camp larger than the size of London was closed at the end of last year, a new report from a human rights group says.

The Washington-based Committee for Human Rights in North Korea (HNRK) says Kim Jong Un consolidated the country’s prison camps after the death of his father in 2011, according to The Telegraph.

An account from a North Korean defector says Camp No. 22 in North Hamyong province once held an estimated 30,000

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I read this report days ago. I didn’t want to cover it. Didn’t want to touch it. But, no one else here on ATS has picked it up.

I’m not complaining - just saying I feel too inadequate sitting here typing away at my machine when all those people... All those poor people suffering and dying in this modern day holocaust. The horror of it is too much.

So - here it is. Out of 8-10k prisoners? 3-5 thousand people are ‘unaccounted for’. Nice way of saying dead isn’t it.

Dead - because they wouldn’t tow the political line in Korea North.

And the USA has it’s nose out of joint ready to start WWIII over the gassing in Syria?

Not that one is any more permissible than the other - but if killing off thousands of political prisoners isn't a crime against humanity that should by all rights make the world leaders rear up in horror than what is?

Unless world leaders are taking lessons.

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When Camp 22 shut down, an estimated 7,000-8,000 prisoners were transferred from the gulag's compounds, situated in the remote northern county of Hoeryong, to other labor camps. The report says that trains holding inmates were seen departing the area at night, heading south. Many prisoners are thought to have been moved to Camp 25 near Chongjin City or to North Hamgyeong Province's Camp 16, about which virtually nothing is known.

But that still leaves many thousands of prisoners unaccounted for. Their fates are unknown for the time being, as information from inside the so-called Hermit Kingdom often takes years to leak to the outside world, if it gets out at all.

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Hawk used the opportunity of the astounding news to issue a call to action: "If even remotely accurate, this is an atrocity requiring much closer investigation,"

(Video is short from Amnesty International - with prisoner interviews)

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"the size of London" and only 3.5k people?

you can probably add another zero to that at least!

Up to 20,000 North Korean prison camp inmates have 'disappeared' says human rights group

There are fears that up to 20,000 may have been allowed to die of disease or starvation in the run-up to the closure of the camp at the end of last year.

The suspicion has emerged from a newly-released report by the Committee for Human Rights in North Korea (HRNK) detailing the situation in penal colonies as Kim Jong-un consolidated his power after taking over as leader from his father, Kim Jong-il who died in 2011. Now the group that is demanding an inquiry into their fate.

The Washington-based organisation gleans information from defectors from the North, including former guards and the occasional survivor of a prison camp, as well as examining satellite imagery.

20k? 130k?

The report, North Korea's Hidden Gulag: Interpreting Reports of Changes in the Prison Camps, reveals that two camps have been shut down in the last year but that 130,000 individuals are still being held in penal labour colonies across the country.

Syria who?

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The video contains more background on North Korean prison camps. It’s horrific as the propaganda that accompanies it.

Whole families imprisoned. Children born inside those gates of hell who knew no other life even existed. Didn’t even know there was another way of life beyond the horrors lived daily in those ‘camps‘.

North Korea - military first and the worlds 4th largest army supporting a holocaust.

Maybe the children are right. There isn’t any ‘real world’ outside those camps. At least not any ‘world’ that gives a rats arse about them.

North Korea uses a ‘Three generations of punishment’ that exists no where else in the world. You commit a crime? Three generations of ‘your people’ disappear in the middle of the night never to be seen again.

And the Western World is where again? Doing what?

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I guess unless the prisoners were gassed and the North Koreans are sitting on top of resources the Western world isn't all that interested then again its always another potential warfront to take focus off all the other issues
Sorry Im not trying to sound callous but it is what it is
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Maybe a little known fact is N.K. supplies political prisoners to Siberia (big Korean population there) for the lumber industry. There are people who were born there and have never even seen their ancestral homeland. I think "VICE" did a news special on the camps and there is a thread or two here at ATS about the camp (s).

In any of these camps starvation and guard beatings are but a normal day to day type of existence.

My understanding is that if you are hurt or can not work you get the bullet to the back of the head treatment or it seems that method has given way to trying to hit a home run by taking a club to the back of ones head; not worth a bullet I suppose...

The few POW stories of those who have escaped the camps will reinforce the old saying of, "Man's inhumanity to man".

I agree. It is hugely hypocritical of the USA to pick and choose which country to "liberate" based on their supply of oil. Zimbabwe is another country that needs justified regime change. At least Mugabe is old now and has not much time left in the world. Several years tops. I am sure there is a cozy space reserved for him in Hell.

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Maybe a little known fact is N.K. supplies political prisoners to Siberia (big Korean population there) for the lumber industry.

I'll see what I can dig up - if nothing more than to wrap my head around this a little more.

At the moment I'm left with a really sour taste in my mouth. All the people out there sobbing their little hearts out over a holocaust past - and doing dog squat about one taking place right before their eyes.

Then again - how am I much better? I wouldn’t even begin to know where to begin to help - or how - or if I could - which I doubt.

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Warning: the following post is pure speculation,
pulled right out of my ear.





Maybe they were never prisoners in the first place,
and they have taken their secret tunnels manned
their fleet of mini submarines and are on the way
to Vancouver right now.

That's where the currents would take them, if they
sailed down the Yellow Sea and around South
Korea.

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You know Silo I am ashamed of myself. Going through what I am going through forced to move to where I am now and on a diet many would not like (but U know the good thing is I am loosing weight like 57 pounds to 237 with a target of 220 in mind) but this is not by choice but the situation I am in.

That is not the point the above just explaining why I have been feeling so sad... To see that video and what that young man has lived through on top of what he did but escaped as well. I am on easy street comparative! Thank God he is now found the courage to witness his life for the rest of us to see the BS behind Syria human rights reason for war...... Its clear its oil...

Remember readers Black Hawk Down.... That showed we left a place that we were needed. Unlike NK we could have made a difference there! North Korea is a power keg waiting to go off. The scary thing is we do not know what kind of stock pile of weapons outside of standard conventional weapons they really have...

3 generations in prison forced labour camp! If this does not explain the Orwellian future for USA with the FEMA camps and coffins we have seen because of Jesse Ventura (and others) exposed then there is no hope waking up the American population.

Thanks Silo for your research and posting... I hope more people will see and share that video.... A reality that I hope does not become at the FEMA camp near all of us....

Black hawk down, ummm, never understood invading a country without surrounding it first, American planners never took a lessons from the German Russian war? when Germany invaded Russia, the Russians just retreated further into their own country, the Somalians did too, the Somalis had the whole of Africa to melt into, Dumb arse planners.

It makes me a hypocrite to say that we need to let people fix their own problems and stay out of everyone else's business, but the North Koreans in those camps are living in hell under that regime. That makes me a hypocrite, I know that. If we really needed to play hero anywhere, and have it truly matter to the citizens, the NK prison cities should be a prime example of where to go. The thing is, these people have had decades of hardcore anti-US propaganda drilled into them, and are utterly fearful of pissing off the regime. I doubt we'd be received well, out fear of punishment if nothing else.

After going through my North Korean Sources I find nothing of this news.

english.yonhapnews.co.kr...
blogs.wsj.com...

These follow everything, these are also the same sources Bekod uses in the NK thread.

reply to post by Senduko

So your point is this is a non issue?
Somethind made up?
Not true?

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North Korea very much has its problems, as for how these and other issues are addressed has been the cause for a lot of debate. The best way out I see is to assist the reunification efforts rather than to continue pushing the isolationist policy, which just further compounds the issues and problems making it harder for all involved.

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A lot of people with Strong Socialist Principles will not give a toss about this. These are the same people who supported East Germany and the Soviet Union. The same ones who go out on marches about everything under the sun and who tun a blind eye to tyrants. Disgusting. That fat bas###d should be taken out.

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Nope just stating my sources aren't picking it up. Which I find odd.

Originally posted by Wirral Bagpuss
I agree. It is hugely hypocritical of the USA to pick and choose which country to "liberate" based on their supply of oil. Zimbabwe is another country that needs justified regime change.

Afganistan has oil?