reply to post by TheSubversiveOne
It has been my understanding of scriptures that Jesus was not God as He was Jesus. If Jesus was God while in the flesh of man then how is it He says
"John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my
Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God."
And then again the scriptures say -- "1st Corinthians 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be
subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all."
In my understanding, there are two creations. The first creation is that of the celestial substance and the second creation is that of the
terrestrial substance. God created the celestial world and as total Spirit He was invisible to this creation. The Creator then brought forth from
Himself visibility to relate to the celestial creation. This visibility was God and was known as "The Word" in the celestial realm. The Creator
introduced "The Word" as His only begotten Son because of all created sons of the celestial God "The Word" was not created but was brought forth
with life within Him to be known as the Creators Begotten Son
John 1:1-4 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
(2) The same was in the beginning with God.
(3) 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
(4)1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
The terrestrial Jesus did not create anything as Jesus. The celestial "Word of God" created and then appeared in His own creation as terrestrial
flesh named Jesus.
As Jesus was conceived by the Word means that His Spirit was also brought forth into the soul of terrestrial flesh. As Jesus was born of the flesh
it was His spirit that remained as "The Word" with life within Himself. This had no effect upon the Creator who still remained Spirit God in the
celestial realm. Only the Creator's Begotten Son was the conceived spirit in the flesh of man. The flesh of Jesus was entirely human terrestrial
flesh which experienced the totality of a terrestrial man.
As the flesh of Jesus perished it was His Spirit that had to experience rebirth back to the celestial realm. We call this resurrection. There is the
mystery. There is no one that can understand any more than what has now been revealed.
As (Jesus) returns for His one thousand years reign, He is shown as "The Word of God" --
Rev 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
Some that say God died is not true at all. The Creator God was removed from the entity of the celestial "Word" as He gave "The Word" the ability
as an independent entity such as you would give your own son.
The difference is as follows. Jesus' spirit was an entity with life within Himself which had previous celestial knowledge and was the only begotten
Son from God. All other human life form spirits are created and procreated terrestrial life forms with no spirit of everlasting life without the
water and fruit to sustain their spirits. In fact these spirits can face a death.
God cannot die because death is created by God for the terrestrial creation.