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Japan declares 'nuclear emergency' after quake - PART 2

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posted on Jun, 13 2015 @ 06:52 PM
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a reply to: thorfourwinds

Thank you SO MUCH for all the information & many links!
You're amazing. I will check them out now.

I'm just a layman so trying to get back into following the thread
some times is overwhelming & I was having a sense of being lost.

So thanks to ALL of you for continuing to be here & also to help others
like me to be able to stay informed...it means alot.

Cheers
Ektar
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posted on Jun, 14 2015 @ 10:38 AM
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posted on Jun, 14 2015 @ 11:00 AM
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PC, I have been trying to figure why the temps in the unit 4 SFP keep going up and is now at 21.4C, which is more than Unit 3 SFP until just recently when it too started going up. This is a jump of over 6C yes? since a month or so ago. (cant remember exactly).

I can't come up with a reason though maybe a nuclear engineer could.

The 4 SFP is now completely empty and probably doesnt have water circulated anymore which might affect a small increase, but at the same time its housed with no sunlight hitting it so it should be remaining fairly constant.

If anyone has a better handle on that temp rise Id love to hear it.

On another note, Im now convinced that they are still pumping nitrogen into 1, 2 and 3. The numbers for amount added keeps changing almost every day to different amounts. If they had truly suspended nitrogen operations those numbers would never change and in fact there should be a zero in their place. I suspect that they did discontinue at one point then started up again without removing the identifier that says operations suspended.

Or maybe they are just messing with us.



posted on Jun, 14 2015 @ 11:26 AM
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originally posted by: zworld
PC, I have been trying to figure why the temps in the unit 4 SFP keep going up and is now at 21.4C, which is more than Unit 3 SFP until just recently when it too started going up. This is a jump of over 6C yes? since a month or so ago. (cant remember exactly).

I can't come up with a reason though maybe a nuclear engineer could.

The 4 SFP is now completely empty and probably doesnt have water circulated anymore which might affect a small increase, but at the same time its housed with no sunlight hitting it so it should be remaining fairly constant.

If anyone has a better handle on that temp rise Id love to hear it.

On another note, Im now convinced that they are still pumping nitrogen into 1, 2 and 3. The numbers for amount added keeps changing almost every day to different amounts. If they had truly suspended nitrogen operations those numbers would never change and in fact there should be a zero in their place. I suspect that they did discontinue at one point then started up again without removing the identifier that says operations suspended.

Or maybe they are just messing with us.


Every single thing that comes out of Tepco has been screened and sanitized. Truth doesn't exist in a corporate world.

I will tell you this. There is only one way that the truth will EVER come out, and that's only if there is no other choice. Example, one of the cores hits a water table and causes a massive explosion of steam and radioactive materials.

Genie would be out of the bottle then.



posted on Jun, 14 2015 @ 11:27 AM
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a reply to: zworld

perhaps a pathway/void is present under the foundations. without looking at the as built layout, the corium could have propagated to this area. something to rule out at least.

further readings from yesterday with a slight west/south-westerly, exposed ground @1meter 100% above normal background. gable-end wall facing wind direction @1meter slightly above 100% nbr.

f.



posted on Jun, 14 2015 @ 11:38 AM
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Brand new mystery to solve. Has anyone ever heard of the oarfish.

Image at strangesounds.org...

and at news.discovery.com...

These babies are huge. The oarfish is known as the original sea serpent and can grow to 35 feet or more. They live deep under the sea and are very seldom seen, yet 5 have washed ashore in So Cal recently, and some scientists believe that this could portend future seismic activity. In fact, the Japanese have called them “ryugu no tsukai”, or “Messenger from the Sea God’s Palace”.

Now for the real interesting part. The following is from a news article from Kyodo News Agency in March of 2010. www.japantimes.co.jp...

from the article;

“A rarely seen deep-sea fish regarded as something of a mystery has been giving marine experts food for thought recently after showing up in large numbers along the Sea of Japan coast.

Yoshiaki Kai, an assistant professor at Kyoto University’s Maizuru Fisheries Research Station, said: “I have never heard of so many of them coming up like this.”

“An old saying has it that the fish comes to the beach as an omen of a big earthquake.

Kiyoshi Wadatsumi, a specialist in ecological seismology and director of the nonprofit organization e-PISCO that studies signs of earthquakes, said, “Deep-sea fish living near the sea bottom are more sensitive to the movements of active faults than those near the surface of the sea.”

But he said the deep-sea fish found in nets or on beaches did not seem to be directly connected with earthquakes.”

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Except that the 8.8 Chilean earthquake happened at the exact time as these die-offs and they were followed by the great Tohoku EQ one year later in 2011.

And now 5 recently and 2 in 2013 have come ashore here. Are the Gods trying to tell us something?



posted on Jun, 14 2015 @ 11:59 AM
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originally posted by: matadoor

Every single thing that comes out of Tepco has been screened and sanitized. Truth doesn't exist in a corporate world.


I totally agree M, but not sure about some of the monitoring. If that were totally the case they wouldn't be changing the numbers for nitrogen injection. If they wanted people to think injections had stopped they would just run up a zero and leave it at that. There may be some things that they have to post for the IAEA. They can manipulate the numbers downward but still have to show something.

This is all guesswork of course but I cant come up with any other explanation for the N numbers.



posted on Jun, 14 2015 @ 12:12 PM
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a reply to: zworld

www.youtube.com...

Sorry Z, first thing I thought of..


We have already proven so many times over that Tepco has lied, we simply don't know what are lies, what is the truth, or anything else for that matter, and we won't, until Japan is forced to allow an independent party to take over this operation.

Believe it or not, I think the international community is going to demand this, once the real facts come out on the damage to the pacific ocean, and the world is going to demand that actions take place to stop the poisoning of the ocean.

It has to happen eventually, or we as a species, and the entire planet earth, will cease to exist.



posted on Jun, 14 2015 @ 12:15 PM
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I think it would be the best if biotech cleaned it up . For example there are bacteria that eat radiation and can feed on everything in that reactor reguardless of its state. We just need to culture enough of them, its most likely the easiest path to solving a complex problem, just a wee bit of radioactive biotech to solve the doom of our time FTW.



posted on Jun, 14 2015 @ 02:10 PM
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a tricky proposition imo the bacteria or extremophiles may already be present. refer back to prior pages for photo.

I would say one would need vast quantities that would fill the chamber many times over, however I would not discount it.

reduction of the transuranics is a must. whilst ineptco are running rings round themselves it seems a viable reduction solution may be found in grids of plates that can be lowered into the vats of collected water/tritium/nasties and a current applied. consider a lead/acid car battery and imagine a charge applied so that an anodic/cathodic flow can be realised. as alpha and beta radionuclides are attracted to negative/positive charge respectively, I see no reason why this shouldn't be considered on a feasibility study.

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posted on Jun, 14 2015 @ 02:31 PM
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hi z
regarding the oarfish, it resides between 1000m and 3000m in the bathypelagic zone along with hatchet fish, deep-sea angler, giant squid, gulper, viper fish, sperm whales and their calves.
as food is already scare at those depths, I would suggest that a major situation is revealing itself.

many years ago I was fit enough to small scale free dive. one of my favourite locations was near a waterfall in the lake district. below a particular bridge the body of flowing water was approx 9meters in depth. the flow was good nearly all the way to the bottom with one exception. there was a basin located at the bottom about a half meter in depth.
from just under the surface I noticed someone had dumped three beacon batteries into this basin. as I approached them I observed a yellowish mist just above these batteries. I steadied myself to observe it further and noticed that this mist was leaching out of these batteries. I immediately retrieved and brought them up for disposal. to my surprise I suddenly had an audience of several tourists who began questioning me on whether this was my job lol. I informed them no and as I entered the water again they were clapping. when I hit bottom again the mist was still present and so I dispersed it away to be caught in the main current. this basin over the years has had tiny sprats/fish present, however that year after a subsequent follow up remained empty.


the point I am getting at is perhaps the transuranics have reached the bathypelagic zone (descended like a mist) and for the critters it has become unbearable.
f


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posted on Jun, 14 2015 @ 05:03 PM
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originally posted by: fakedirt
a reply to: zworld

perhaps a pathway/void is present under the foundations. without looking at the as built layout, the corium could have propagated to this area. something to rule out at least.

further readings from yesterday with a slight west/south-westerly, exposed ground @1meter 100% above normal background. gable-end wall facing wind direction @1meter slightly above 100% nbr.

f.





Sharing from the Part 1 thread, in case this diagram from the first of its kind shroud repair and replacement activities are relevant to the void/pathway you referenced.

Interesting diagram of what is under Unit 2 from when shroud repair was done. There is another layer of piping under there and the area would have had to be excavated under the reactor or was already open and accessible.


And a helpful pic for the archives



PDF download of Fukushima shroud repair

Link to plant schematic

I appreciate your posts.


ETA: Dear ATS mods, is there anyway to restore quote function in the Part 1 thread so content can be copied with picture codes in new threads? By locking that thread, the picture codes and link codes were also locked/lost. I understand you can't allow a quote to post, but can it at least be viewable for copying? Sure would help! Thanks for any consideration! There are many instances where the only place content still exists is on the ATS part 1 thread. Many links to the original sources now are dead. Go figure.
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posted on Jun, 14 2015 @ 05:04 PM
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originally posted by: matadoor
a reply to: zworld

www.youtube.com...

Sorry Z, first thing I thought of..


Damn, i thought the strait man had already ridden off into the sunset.


No, I understand the point. Analyzing sheet leaves you with.....

At the same time I have to consider that industrial mistakes pertaining to accidentally leaked info have won lawsuits before so one must be ever vigilant. But your are probably absolutely right, the TEPCO website isn't where you want to look. The only caveat is for videos where things have been revealed that they didnt mean to reveal, but other than that increase all values many fold to get closer to the picture.



posted on Jun, 15 2015 @ 09:50 AM
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Excellent article by Hunziker at www.counterpunch.org...

some quotes from the article;

Fukushima will likely go down in history as the biggest cover-up of the 21st Century. Governments and corporations are not leveling with citizens about the risks and dangers; similarly, truth itself, as an ethical standard, is at risk of going to shambles as the glue that holds together the trust and belief in society’s institutions. Ultimately, this is an example of how societies fail.

Seiichi Mizuno, a former member of Japan’s House of Councillors (Upper House of Parliament, 1995-2001) in March 2015 said: “The biggest problem is the melt-through of reactor cores… We have groundwater contamination… The idea that the contaminated water is somehow blocked in the harbor is especially absurd. It is leaking directly into the ocean. There’s evidence of more than 40 known hotspot areas where extremely contaminated water is flowing directly into the ocean… We face huge problems with no prospect of solution.”

As the disaster happened, enormous levels of radiation hit Tokyo. The highest radiation detected in the Tokyo Metro area was in Saitama with cesium radiation levels detected at 919,000 becquerel (Bq) per square meter, a level almost twice as high as Chernobyl’s “permanent dead zone evacuation limit of 500,000 Bq” (source: Radiation Defense Project). For that reason, Dr. Caldicott strongly advises against travel to Japan and recommends avoiding Japanese food.

Even so, post the Fukushima disaster, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton signed an agreement with Japan that the U.S. would continue importing Japanese foodstuff. Therefore, Dr. Caldicott suggests people not vote for Hillary Clinton. One reckless dangerous precedent is enough for her.



posted on Jun, 15 2015 @ 11:45 AM
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well, this is certainly interesting:

the-japan-news.com...

A robot entered Tokyo Electric Power Co.’s No. 1 reactor at its Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant for the first time last month.

Undeterred by radiation, robots are indispensable assets that can shed light on the conditions of such sites normally inaccessible to humans. TEPCO, the government and other parties are continuing to develop robots to deal with melted fuel inside reactors.

A big headache

The Great East Japan Earthquake of March 2011 cut off power and disrupted cooling functions at reactor Nos. 1-3. Nuclear fuel inside the pressure vessels subsequently melted after reaching critical temperatures.

Constantly emitting deadly radiation, melted nuclear fuel presents the biggest headache for decommissioning work. Moreover, each of the reactors has its own unique problems.

More at the link....



posted on Jun, 15 2015 @ 02:00 PM
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On their Website, Chiyoda Technol Corporation admits their Dosimeter UNDERCOUNTS Radiation by 30 to 40%



On 1/28/2015, “CHIYODA TECHNOL CORPORATION” announced on their website that their dosimeter shows cumulative exposure dose lower than actual air dose rate by 30 〜 40%.

Fukushima citizens are given the dosimeter of this company, which is the largest “glass badge” maker. The citizens wear these dosimeter to measure the individual cumulative radiation dose in a certain period.

Having a company executive apologize it in the city council of Da-te city in mid January, they officially announced this fact on their website.

The dosimeter counts γ ray only when it comes to the front of the badge. In the circumstance where γ ray comes in all the direction, it shows only 60 〜 70% of the actual radiation dose.

The maker states it is not unrealistic because most of the highly radiosensitive organs are in the front of human body.

 
www.c-technol.co.jp...



posted on Jun, 15 2015 @ 02:19 PM
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the bottom part made me wet myself! personally i'd have one on each foot, one by the junk and several around the rest of the bod.
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posted on Jun, 16 2015 @ 09:38 AM
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On top of everything else why not the worst toxic algae bloom ever.

Note the date they first started seeing diarrhetic shellfish poisoning (DSP).

From the Seattle Times via ENE enenews.com...

Toxic algae bloom might be largest ever — Scientists onboard a NOAA research vessel are beginning a survey of what could be the largest toxic algae bloom ever recorded off the West Coast… At the same time, two other types of toxins rarely seen in combination are turning up,,, along the Washington coast… the toxin has never hit so hard in the spring, or required such widespread closures for crabs… concentrations in California anchovies this year [are] as high as any ever measured… [Dan Ayres with Washington's Dept. of Fish & Wildlife] recently spotted a sea lion wracked by seizures… collapsed into a fetal position and quivered… Domoic-acid contamination is rare in Puget Sound, but several beds have been closed this year because of…  paralytic shellfish poisoning (PSP) and a relatively new threat called diarrhetic shellfish poisoning (DSP). The first confirmed case of DSP poisoning in the United States occurred in 2011 [in Washington]… 2015 is the first time regulators have detected dangerous levels of PSP, DSP and domoic acid in the state at the same time — and in some cases, in the same places…

ON EDIT: from wiki the date of the first poisoning.

The family collected mussels from a public dock at Sequim Bay State Park, Sequim, Washington, on June 29, 2011. The mussels were stored in seawater until they were cooked 2 hours later. The mussels were boiled in water, wine, herbs, and butter for 10 minutes until the shells opened, then consumed immediately.
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posted on Jun, 16 2015 @ 09:51 AM
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originally posted by: FormOfTheLord
I think it would be the best if biotech cleaned it up . For example there are bacteria that eat radiation and can feed on everything in that reactor reguardless of its state. We just need to culture enough of them, its most likely the easiest path to solving a complex problem, just a wee bit of radioactive biotech to solve the doom of our time FTW.


Here's a new one too.

From www.eurekalert.org...

Bacteria Could Help Clean Groundwater Contaminated By Uranium Ore Processing

The team's discovery, published in the April 13, 2015 issue of PLOS ONE, is the first known instance where scientists have found a bacterium from a common class known as betaproteobacteria that breathes uranium. This bacterium can breathe either oxygen or uranium to drive the chemical reactions that provide life-giving energy.

"After the newly discovered bacteria interact with uranium compounds in water, the uranium becomes immobile," said Lee Kerkhof, a professor of marine and coastal sciences in the School of Environmental and Biological Sciences. "It is no longer dissolved in the groundwater and therefore can't contaminate drinking water brought to the surface."



posted on Jun, 17 2015 @ 09:59 AM
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The Ring of Fire on the western flank is acting up in a serious way as volcanic activity accelerates.

From theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com...

Mount Asama volcano erupts near Tokyo – geologic activity increasing for Japan

Philippine volcano spews ash, no violent eruption expected

Indonesian volcano Mount Sinabung erupts: Over 10,000 evacuated




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