Schools Sending 'Fat Letters' To Parents About Overweight Children

reply to post by stormdancer777

You can justify being obese by heritage? When you were growing up, you are saying it was common to see one in three obese people? I don't think so. Obese back in the day were for the rich, elite, and privileged and was revered. Today, you people are saying that you have to be rich to be of a good weight and to eat healthy because foods are expensive.

Originally posted by Hollie
reply to post by stormdancer777

 

You have to burn off your calories. You as a vegetarian, do you eat a lot of cheese, butter, and processed oils? A cheese pizza is loaded with fat and calories. Just because you are a vegetarian, doesn't mean you are eating healthy. The only reason you gain weight is because you do not burn off the calories take in. If it is the medication causing you to be lethargic, you have to pick it up a notch. If the medication is making you retain water, you have to cut out the sodium in your diet.

Well thanks for the advice.

I am a pretty strict vegan, seldom eat anything but veggies, the meds make it almost impossible to drop the weight, when I cut back on them the weight falls off, but I have to take them.

I was always an athlete, cycling, canoeist, jogger, hunter, then I started having panic attacks all that changed.

I have agoraphobia and fear of open spaces, it made me a prisoner.

Just remember we all have issues we deal with, if it aint one thing it's another.

Originally posted by Hollie
reply to post by stormdancer777

 

You can justify being obese by heritage? When you were growing up, you are saying it was common to see one in three obese people? I don't think so. Obese back in the day were for the rich, elite, and privileged and was revered. Today, you people are saying that you have to be rich to be of a good weight and to eat healthy because foods are expensive.

YOU are twisting this a little, I never said one in three,I said my husband and son can eat anything they want and not gain weight but they still have health issues, I did say sometimes it is hereditary, and it is.

I didn't say anything about the cost of food.

reply to post by beezzer

Now it's hate on the fatty-fats?

One poster alluded that I was obese because I oppose these kinds of letters.

I guess with that kind of logic;
I must be gay because I support gay marriage
I must be a terrorist because I'm a veteran with an American flag.

Hatin' on fat people.

They have been conditioned to do this Bee,

You know I guess it makes them feel better about themselves.

reply to post by stormdancer777


I did not mean it as YOU are saying one in three, I meant it that you are saying "one in three" was normal back then. Not that you were actually saying it, so to speak. Sorry about that context mix-up.

An when I said "you people" I mean "you people that claim the expense of healthy foods causes obesity". Not YOU, but you know what I mean.

I'm 34 years young, and I remember clearly when I was in grade school and middle school that there was maybe one or two fat kids per classroom. Now its the exact opposite in most places of the country; skinny kids and kids who aren't overweight are the MINORITY.

It's sad and scary. Sad because everyone loves their children and would never willingly do them harm, but in fact that is exactly what they are doing. By buying your children fast food and stuff that gets thrown in the microwave, you are KILLING your children. Today's youth probably won't live past 50, even with modern medicine.


What's scary is that this is all planned. EVERY SINGLE elitist on the globe wants the population much lower then it is now, and plans have been implemented all over the world to do just this. Not every plan is the same but they are in action you can count on it.

Another scary tidbit is that most sheeple in this country don't want to hear it when you tell them that they way they are feeding their children is not good. Doesn't help that they eat the same, so why should they feed their children any differently? Hmmmm, I don't know. Is it fun being overweight? Is it fun having diabetes? Is it fun being out of breath after going up the stairs?

I'm done getting worried and stressed out over all this dietary nonsense because it's too late for change. The people who don't take care of themselves and watch their diet are all too far gone in being puppets to their ego's to take notice and make changes. Keep on eating McDonalds til the day you get lowered into the ground in a casket that is meant to hold Obese individuals.


None of this post is judgement, I don't judge. It's just pointing out the obvious. Sad though that there are some who will feel judged, and those are the ones I speak of in this post.


Peace, love and light

reply to post by stormdancer777


Your absolutely right, people are indeed CONDITIONED to react and respond the way they do. It's an unconscious response that is made by the ego to preserve their feelings and emotions. All this is occurring because people don't know what it means to "become conscious of the unconscious ego".

It's hard to look in the mirror and notice our flaws, but only because we have been taught to AVOID anything that may be uncomfortable or painful. We have passed this on to younger generations and it definitely shows in their behavior as well.


We are well beyond the point of no return, make sure your all buckled up cause the ride only gets rougher from here.

Originally posted by Imightknow

What's scary is that this is all planned. EVERY SINGLE elitist on the globe wants the population much lower then it is now, and plans have been implemented all over the world to do just this. Not every plan is the same but they are in action you can count on it.

SELLING us the very crap that keeps their pockets full. With less people to sell their food to, how do they gain? You have to explain this to me because I do not understand this. I have heard this before and never received a solid answer. How does reducing the population benefit these big food companies again?

Originally posted by Krazysh0t
I don't see what the big deal is here. It's just a letter. Do you flip out when some insurance company sends you some mass mailer trying to get you to switch to their insurance? No you just throw it away. Same here, it's just a letter telling you that your child is most likely unhealthy and (most likely) here is a few steps you can pursue to correct that. If you don't agree with the letter, than just throw the letter away. It's not like the police are kicking down your door, arresting you, and putting your child into protective services because your kid is the size of a whale.

I can't believe that people would find it offensive to be told that they are raising their kids in an unhealthy lifestyle. It's like the PC idiot crowd somehow got mixed with crazy right against government control. The way this article reads its like "Who are YOU to tell me that my child is fat! That's offensive!" PC crowd...

Then you got the others who are basically saying that this letter is one step away from the gestapo state

There was one poster who was even suggested that he'd assault (a crime by the way, unlike having an unhealthy child) the people who sent him this letter if he received it. Dang, are you sure YOU aren't still in grade school... You people need to grow up, learn to take some constructive criticism (even if it does originate from the state) and move on with your lives. One thing that always holds true about constructive criticism is that YOU DON'T HAVE TO LISTEN TO IT!

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I agree totally 100%.

I dont see the 'fat-o-mail' being anything different then what the parents should already know about. Just like the 'skinny-o-mail' should be coming out anytime soon.

Anyone that gets that their children are Heavy .. should take steps to improve on this condition right now. The letter is only putting it back into your own realization of something you already know.

I mean holy crap man .. Fast food and packaging (IMHO) was created for those that had to Feed without having to cook or clean within a time constraint. It is an easy way to feed .. without the hassle or time that would allow someone to carry on with their lives to do it themselves.

Too many have taken to fast food.

Fat kids are Fat. Period. Reasons are sometimes imbiguous .. but to know from a different source that your kid is overweight might just get you to think about what food program some of the parents work with. Children get their food from parents. .. Parents live with fat kids because they dont understand or dont care.

Im sure there is more reason for concern is a child is showing 'bones' than showing Fat.

JG.

My daughter is 5'5" and weighs about 185 lbs. She is NOT FAT. She is built like a Russian gymnast! In fact, she is so big because she did gymnastics for about 14 years then plays soccer and softball, played powder puff football and wrestled. Her legs are like tree stumps. I took her for a phsyical a couple years ago and the nurse that took her vitals suggested a diet to her. I was appalled. Her body fat is normal. She is all freaking muscle. I told the doctor and the doctor told us not to let it get to us because the BMI charts the nurse was using does not take into account muscle mass. She also has severe asthma and takes a daily steroid to keep her breathing. The steroid makes her retain water. So her weight is water and muscle.

My daughter came home from that appointment in tears saying she was fat. It took me forever to make her realize not every child on the planet is a bean pole. She has since embraced her muscles and her size and she is a happy kid. She eats healthy, she doesnt drink soda. She doesnt eat sweets. She is a healthy kid.

To me, as long as your child is healthy what does it matter what the number on the scale says??

I think our society is too hell bent on making us all cookie cutter replicas of one another.

When I was a teen, I was skinny, but an uncle told me at a family dinner one year that he could pinch more than an inch. That ONE statement led to 15 years worth of eating disorders. I was so determined to lose the inch he said he could pinch. My weight went down to 90 lbs and I was a rack of bones. I was deathly sick. My hair fell out. I wouldnt eat. My father finally intervened and got me help. It took 15 years for me to love myself again.

We are all different. I get that there are children that are overweight and unhealthy. But there has to be a better way to help them than to send a fat letter home.

Why dont the schools incorporate nutrition classes? Why dont they bring back recesses? Why dont they bring back PE?? Our schools add to the problem by cutting these valuable things from our children's schedules.

Our country has so many issues. SOmetimes I think we just just demolish it and start over. It is ridiculous!!

Oh, and by the way, I do not worry about my daughter walking around campus at night...she can take care of herself. I seriously have 0 worries there. She could down a grown man before he knew what hit him. Lets see a bean pole defend herself!!

Originally posted by stormdancer777
reply to post by beezzer

 

Now it's hate on the fatty-fats?

One poster alluded that I was obese because I oppose these kinds of letters.

I guess with that kind of logic;
I must be gay because I support gay marriage
I must be a terrorist because I'm a veteran with an American flag.

Hatin' on fat people.

They have been conditioned to do this Bee,

You know I guess it makes them feel better about themselves.

This is what I meant about the social engineering going on in schools.

Originally posted by k21968


Oh, and by the way, I do not worry about my daughter walking around campus at night...she can take care of herself. I seriously have 0 worries there. She could down a grown man before he knew what hit him. Lets see a bean pole defend herself!!

The bigger they are, the harder they fall. I know plenty of "bean poles" in my classes that could easily defend themselves.

I received a 'Skinny Letter'. My daughter is 10, fit & healthy. They sent home a letter asking if we fed her enough. No joke. Just because she isn't pushing maximum density like so many other kids, I guess they assumed she was malnourished.

Sad.

So many peeps in this thread saying so many different things that I dont really know who this is aimed at any more

But I'm going to say this!
1. Our stores ARE full of poor quality food thats cheap.
2. Healthy food IS more expensive. Consider yourself lucky if you think it isn't.
3. Most families have incomes that have diminished to poverty level.

A parent who's income is at poverty level has little choice but to buy the cheap food. Remember, they have other expenses too, like clothes for the kids etc, and it all has to come out of the poverty level income!
What choice does the parent have? Buy cheap food and keep the kids clothed, or buy expensive food and let the kids where rags? It really is that simple.

Simply saying "Healthy food is not more expensive" is a lie, just because you can say those words does not make it true! Every person who's struggling to keep afloat knows its a lie, please stop with this nonsense!

I see people complaining that they see parents buying their kids fast food etc. Well, do you realise that for many parents, that garbage food is the only 'treat' they can afford to buy for their kids! For many families the kids wait all week for pay day so they can have that Big Mac treat!
I'm sure if they could afford it those same kids would wait all week for pay day so they could enjoy a good healthy home roast dinner!

Stop writing insulting letters to the parents. It not your job. If you must get involved then write to the stores and demand they stock healthy food at a healthy price, because that IS the root of the problem.

reply to post by Synallaxis


The letter, it really asked if you fed her enough?!?!?! I would have to see that to even believe that.

reply to post by VoidHawk


I gave several examples of cheap healthy foods that would feed an army. You chose to ignore them.

Originally posted by VoidHawk
If you must get involved then write to the stores and demand they stock healthy food at a healthy price, because that IS the root of the problem.

You are blaming the entrepreneurs for what they sell. What people stock, and how they price things should not be a factor in ones health.

Originally posted by beezzer
I don't get this.

Has christian-bashing become passe'?

Now it's hate on the fatty-fats?

One poster alluded that I was obese because I oppose these kinds of letters.

I guess with that kind of logic;
I must be gay because I support gay marriage
I must be a terrorist because I'm a veteran with an American flag.

Hatin' on fat people.

A sad sign of society.

Hate?

Are you serious?

I have fat friends!

But seriously, obesity is not a protected ground for a reason. It's not like there's an entire fat culture being oppressed unfairly and can't change that part of them. Some of them, yes, sure. But come on, Beez, it's not like their world is going to suddenly end when they get a letter saying that their weight is far beyond healthy margins. It's going to end in the near future if they don't do something about it.

I think it's rather hilarious that three people have compared being obese to homosexuality now. No lineage whatsoever.

Originally posted by k21968
My daughter is 5'5" and weighs about 185 lbs. She is NOT FAT.

Oh, and by the way, I do not worry about my daughter walking around campus at night...she can take care of herself. I seriously have 0 worries there. She could down a grown man before he knew what hit him. Lets see a bean pole defend herself!!

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Any grown man/woman can 'down' any other grown man or woman before anyone knew what hit them.

Dont live on the premise that anyone has the upper hand. Sometimes They do have the upper hand.

Ive seen Bean poles that would Rock your world.

Safety is key issue then at this point.

JG.

The problem here in this thread is not obesity, it is people's interpretation of what obesity is. My grandson is a little chunky, his problem is he plays x box all day. All the "pro's" in health care were evaluating him as Obese, they were all skinny. The official translation from the specialist in the field says he is not obese, but close to the point at which he will shortly go over. Who do you believe? A specialist trained in the field or a bunch of theropists in the healthcare industry who benefit by more people that they treat.

I know that my grandson needs to go out and do things, my daughter is overprotective about him because his legs are deformed at the ankles. He could be doing stuff outside though, maybe he can't run and jump but he can go for a short walk in the woods or go swimming more. He needs to be cut off from those video games so he goes out and does more. He needs to learn his own limitations, not have someone tell him he cannot do things.

The big problem with this is that he either needs to do everything in gym or he can't go to gym. A doctors excuse was needed to limit his running and jumping and still attend gym. By the theropists saying his problems with his feet is not the problem, his weight is, they are saying he can do everything in gym, then he misses school since he can't even walk. It is not the specialists in the fields that are the problem, it is the therapists and some GP's who are the problem. The highly trained individuals tend to know things that the common healthcare workers can't comprehend....that every case has special circumstances and every case is a little different. My grandson has metabolic issues yet they tested for everything but. When a specialist was going to send him down to get these looked at, the GP canceled the tests so her interpretation would be shown to be right. Metabolic issues specific to a person can cause a great deal of problems. Why does he have this problem? My daughter was feeding her kids foods that contained a lot of oxalates, phytates, and goitinerogens when they were young. The kids were always sick. A lot of people in this mining area have problems associated with their ancestors having heavy metal poisoning causing changes in the genes. Certain veggies need to be cooked well and not eaten raw. That is all there is to it. You do not avoid these veggies, you cook them, it has to do with enzymes.