Does U.S. Air Force have "starships"?

well if you want to be technical a rocket could be considered a "starship" so yeah the air force does possess starships.

Some agencies have tech that is at least 50-100 years beyond what we are being shown. We were never alone on this planet,galaxy,universe. Where do think fiber-optics come from? The time it takes to integrate alien technology into society would be about 50 years. Roswell falls within that range.

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The birth of fibre optics is well documented and pre dates Roswell..

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Originally posted by Oannes
Some agencies have tech that is at least 50-100 years beyond what we are being shown. We were never alone on this planet,galaxy,universe. Where do think fiber-optics come from? The time it takes to integrate alien technology into society would be about 50 years. Roswell falls within that range.

More like 10 years. They may have knowledge that is 20 + years ahead but actual hardware or prototypes are at about 10-12 years ahead of what you see or would expect.

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With the Air Force there's no point having a plane or starship for that matter with no mission, what could the Air Force do with a Star Ship? It's hard to fight a war in Iraq from another star system no? How could spending that much money on a plane which would serve no purpose really to the Air Force be justified?

NASA would be a different story, but even then if they had the technology they would probably make it public, so they could get a bigger budget and generate more interest in space. So if they had that technology they would most likely be screaming it from the rooftops.

eh, its a recruiting advert

he's selling a dream, telling a story, whetting young whipper snappers appetites for possible adventures that lay in store if they only take the chance to follow his dream and sign on the dotted line

I wouldn't read anything more into it

Guys and girls, you tinfoil hat wearing folk have more than your fair share of threads on this forum, let us have some reality forums and maybe even bleeding edge but not far out stealth interstellar secret starships when we can barley support of low earth space lab called the ISS.

grey580
I'm sure there are a few air force refueling boom operators that could chime in here.
They've seen all types of craft. Especially top secret stuff.
But they can't confirm nor deny ;p

Eh, pretty sure we wouldn't be refueling starships from KC-135/KC-10's. However that being said, I don't think we have any star ships flying around out there like star trek or SG-1. After all, we are flying US Astronauts on the Russian space rockets (faulty) at 25 million a pop. Why do that if we have a star ship out there?

a reply to: m83x1

I saw this the other day. It is very peculiar. The spaceshuttle is not a starship. Humanity does not yet have interstellar craft. Supposedly.

UNLEASH THE KRAKEN!

I'm going to go out on a limb and say no, the Air Force doesn't.

I can think of others that make more sense though.

Yes there is clearly a Cosmic based EA*RTH STARSHIP Conspiracy that has AIR FORCE and Other influences

a reply to: Ophiuchus 13

Actually the Air Force is a bad service for any kind of starship mission if you think about it.

a reply to: Aliensun
And why are people killed?
Scientists UFo experiencers

Note: In 2006, Howard voiced his interest in a collective book project on the family’s experiences with vessels and other life forms, to include a compilation of sensitive material gathered over the years. Howard suffered an untimely death by a virus of “unknown origin” on October 2nd- this was 14 years to the day after the Reed’s case was mentioned at the United Nations Symposium, October 2nd, 1992.

The CDC, on sweeping Howard’s office, reported finding a vial containing the deadly virus in his air conditioning unit. The building was closed and remains closed to this day. Oct. 6th was then proclaimed a day of remembrance in Howard’s honour, by the City of Bridgeport, CT as he was strongly supported by Senator Christopher Dodd. A Ph.D. who released his test results regarding the Reed case after evaluating family members, on September 15, 2010, was also found dead on November 12th, 2010, just eight weeks later.

In memory of Tom’s father, a commemorative bench can be seen in the City Green. Thomas Reed was a South Beach fashion photographer, and the founder of Miami Models, w/clients: Polo Black Label, Tommy Hilfiger, and Ralph Lauren. He held positions in upper management with companies, Honeywell and Entergy.

mysteryscience.org...

a reply to: grey580

Reminds me of an old Airwolf episode when the boom operator told the pilots they just refueled a helo at high altitude and the pilots laughed believing the kid had to be mistaken and not smart enough to identify the most basic aircraft.

a reply to: Zaphod58

Accepted, as the COSMOS are sailed more so then flew...

a reply to: Zaphod58

It's more of a space comm thing.

a reply to: boomer135

Their could well be secret space stuff. If their is water on any of the worlds at present visited. Then a steam powered space ship with a small nuclear reactor would have been possible since nuclear engineering took off. The thrust would be dependent on the pressure of the steam created. In fact even in some normal power stations "superheated steam" breaks the water into hydrogen and oxygen and leaves a glow of blue electron light where its happening.

If the Air Force had continued to fund Project Orion, they might have later succeeded in producing a starship, but it didn't happen. Apparently, they stopped funding because of the radiation concerns and because NASA was the new face of space exploration - the Air Force deals in weapons. In a time when there was talk about controlling the spread of nuclear weapons and fears of nuclear annihilation, the thought of using nuclear weapons to provide thrust for spacecraft would make eyes roll.

There were probably other reasons it stopped short. What reason is there in 1963-1966 to fund a program to produce a spaceship that can travel quickly between the planets? Not much. In fact, there's not much reason to do it today, either. The problem is we don't really have a strong reason to travel to the other planets yet. We're not out of land on Earth and colonizing a hostile extraterrestrial environment is expensive. Even if we exhausted the land, we could always build colonies underground or in (or on) the oceans, so there's little reason for us to go off-earth for living space. Until we're in dire need of rare earth metals or He3 or some other exotic material, we'll probably still be stuck in low Earth orbit or on the moon.

Because there's no strong need to travel to other planets, the funding is low. Evenso, we've produced ion propulsion systems for probes that're very efficient. We've also done some preliminary work on solar sails. I think Japan even launched a test solar sail prototype. There's some research into techniques to get us to Mars more quickly via nuclear systems. These're not the same thing as detonating mini-nukes behind a pusher plate in a repeated manner, but they'll put us on a road towards interplanetary travel if we keep supplying the money. Interstellar is a long ways off, but some might argue the Voayger probes are now interstellar.

Here's probably one of hte best examples:
www.theregister.co.uk - NASA-backed fusion engine could cut Mars trip down to 30 days...

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The proposed Fusion Driven Rocket (FDR) is a 150-ton system that uses magnetism to compress lithium or aluminum metal bands around a deuterium-tritium fuel pellet to initiate fusion. The resultant microsecond reaction forces the propellant mass out at 30 kilometers per second, and would be able to pulse every minute or so and not cause g-force damage to the spacecraft's occupants.

The spent fuel pellet is ejected behind the motor to provide propulsion, and because the whole process is magnetically controlled there's relatively little wear and tear on the engines. A pellet the size of a grain of sand would provide the same propellant as a gallon of conventional rocket fuel.

All this requires electrical power to control and contain the reaction, but Dr. Anthony Pancotti, an advanced propulsion engineer with the team, told The Register that the advantages of magnetic inertial confinement fusion (over that requiring massive lasers, for example) mean that the spacecraft could power itself on solar energy alone.

"It's very scalable; we can achieve fusion at a much smaller scale," he said. "We could run the designed engine off 200KW of solar panels, which is about the same power as generated by the panels around the International Space Station"
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The FDR is one of only ten projects to get Stage Two funding from the program. This $600,000 award will provide the proof-of-concept FDR system over the next 18 months, and a working spacecraft would be ready as soon as 2020, Pancotti predicted – but if NASA wanted to throw money at the project, this timescale could be cut.
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And one more thing. It may be some of hte UFO sightings are Air Force creations stemming from the long ago and dead Project Silver Bug. The problem is if this is true then why have these not been made public? The SR-71 was made public. There're many aircraft that were once classified but are now public. While the Acro Car was made public and is officially accepted as a spinoff of Project Silver Bug, it failed terribly. One can wonder if there're other as yet still classified spinoffs.

Also note those "aircraft" would not need runways. The facilities that house htem could be underground. So they really could hide these things well as long as they killed any paper/digital trails or satellite feeds.

I theorize it went a little like this.

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....and vanished