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Originally posted by AthiestJesus
Originally posted by OccamsRazor04
Originally posted by PtolemyII
As for Boston ,i believe some people did get hurt ,And the bombs were not big.
Some patients were all staged photo ops .
The ems people at the scene ,just like with sandy hook ,did NOT follow protocol at all.
The stats i got about the call ,thru ems people in NYC,is that every patient was moved to a hospital within 18 minute of the blast .
That's UNHEARD OF
I don't care how many drills you've done .It never goes that smoothly during the real event .Never
So 180 staged patients, and every EMS employee as well as every nurse and Doctor and patient tech are all in on it? That's what you think?
Everyone involved was "in on it" , even though I personally do not believe many doctors were involved in this fake story at all , I suppose you could say that ... yes .
Now come with your point , what`s your punchline ?
Originally posted by PtolemyII
ps ,the double amputee in the wheelchair should have been seizing from sitting upright and blood loss.
They boarded collared and immobilized the minor injury next to this guy ,and move him upright in a wheelchair ???
Yeah ,OK.
Ask any ems person anywhere ,ANYWHERE,this question .
You have two patients side by side .The mechanism of injury caused one patient to lose both legs ,,and is in dsnger of shock from blood loss,and has two exposed bone ends ,both femurs.
the other was knocked down but has no obvious life threatening injuries and is A+O times 3 at the scene ....
You have one stretcher,one set of immobilzation equipment , and one wheelchair .
Question ,,how do you manage and move each of these patients ?
edit on 9/5/13 by PtolemyII because: (no reason given)edit on 9/5/13 by PtolemyII because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by AthiestJesus
reply to post by PtolemyII
Exactly ..... "this guys got no legs" .......... "eeerrr use the wheelchair ?!? " As soon as you put him in that chair he`s going to bleed out at an insane speed man.
I have no punchline. No evidence can ever be presented to you because EVERYONE is in on it. Your mind is made up, and for you it's more logical that thousands of regular people employed at the hospital are part of some elaborate plot than for there to be no plot.
Originally posted by OccamsRazor04
Originally posted by AthiestJesus
reply to post by PtolemyII
Exactly ..... "this guys got no legs" .......... "eeerrr use the wheelchair ?!? " As soon as you put him in that chair he`s going to bleed out at an insane speed man.
My sources actually deal with exactly this. You obviously did not read them because you do not care, and do not want evidence, you want support for your belief.
Nothing you say has any merit whatsoever until you deal with the HUNDREDS of patients that were cared for by THOUSANDS of hospital employees, with several deaths and many amputations.
Originally posted by AthiestJesus
I have no punchline. No evidence can ever be presented to you because EVERYONE is in on it. Your mind is made up, and for you it's more logical that thousands of regular people employed at the hospital are part of some elaborate plot than for there to be no plot.
Yeah , uuuuhm , that`s actually your punchline right there ^^^
"No evidence can ever be presented to you because EVERYONE is in on it" ..... See , you wanted to try and assassinate my character by trying to make out that I`m a crazy loon who simply refuses to listen to people like yourself (who you obviously believe are "sane") . And using capitals on the word -everyone- shows the tension buzzing around you whilst you were typing that post .
Originally posted by AthiestJesus
Everyone involved was "in on it" , even though I personally do not believe many doctors were involved in this fake story at all , I suppose you could say that ... yes .
So hundreds of doctors and nurses became Thousands in a matter of minutes ? And you have the nerve to use the word logical ?
Originally posted by PtolemyII
reply to post by OccamsRazor04
I'm a 911 first responder.I'm a retired NYC paramedic,and i retired after the second 911 bombing ,as i went to the first one in 93 as well.Ive been to quite a few major multi causality incidents .i know exactly what I'm talking about .
You ,on the other hand ,are someone who only knows what Google tells you .
Your opinion is one thing ,your rational is misguided given you probably know nothing about emergency medicine ,prehospital or otherwise .
Originally posted by AthiestJesus
Nothing you say has any merit whatsoever until you deal with the HUNDREDS of patients that were cared for by THOUSANDS of hospital employees, with several deaths and many amputations.
Yeah , remind me why we should bother speaking to you ?
That right there ^^ is ignorant , and shows that you are only here to play the moral high ground game .
Originally posted by AthiestJesus
I have no belief , so don`t go creating one for me just to fit yours.
Lets clear this up , I have not asked you for evidence of anything , I`ve just joined the conversation , so throwing your arms about and screaming evidence makes absolutely no sense what so ever mate .
I do not care ? ... do not wat evidence ? .... assassination of character.
Originally posted by OccamsRazor04
Originally posted by AthiestJesus
I have no belief , so don`t go creating one for me just to fit yours.
You clearly do since in spite of my presenting overwhelming indisputable evidence you just plow forward with it being a conspiracy.
Lets clear this up , I have not asked you for evidence of anything , I`ve just joined the conversation , so throwing your arms about and screaming evidence makes absolutely no sense what so ever mate .
I do not care ? ... do not wat evidence ? .... assassination of character.
This is true, my apologies, I got you confused with the OP. The OP asked for evidence, which I presented, so while you did not ask for it (my mistake) it's exactly what the conversation is about.
Originally posted by OccamsRazor04
Originally posted by AthiestJesus
Nothing you say has any merit whatsoever until you deal with the HUNDREDS of patients that were cared for by THOUSANDS of hospital employees, with several deaths and many amputations.
Yeah , remind me why we should bother speaking to you ?
That right there ^^ is ignorant , and shows that you are only here to play the moral high ground game .
How is it ignorant to ask you to explain how we have bombing victims without any bombing?
It's like me telling you someone spraypainted my white car black, and you pull up a video and analyze people watching, saying their facial expressions look off, and the way the spraypaint moves is wrong because of the wind, and refuse to acknowledge the fact my car is black.
Originally posted by AthiestJesus
reply to post by OccamsRazor04
What , so you work at a hospital and think that gives you a higher standing than everyone else ? , you have already made it very clear that you believe you are the only person in this thread who knows what happened . And you`re trying to make an argument out of how many patients / doctors there`s supposed to have been .
How did jeff get over the trauma of losing both legs and become the happiest man alive just a matter of days later waving flags at that game ? (He`s writing a book btw , you know ... to sell ...... for profit ) Since your the resident medical expert , please explain to me how many doctors it takes to make you forget you`ve just lost your legs .
Originally posted by AthiestJesus
Originally posted by OccamsRazor04
Originally posted by AthiestJesus
Nothing you say has any merit whatsoever until you deal with the HUNDREDS of patients that were cared for by THOUSANDS of hospital employees, with several deaths and many amputations.
Yeah , remind me why we should bother speaking to you ?
That right there ^^ is ignorant , and shows that you are only here to play the moral high ground game .
How is it ignorant to ask you to explain how we have bombing victims without any bombing?
It's like me telling you someone spraypainted my white car black, and you pull up a video and analyze people watching, saying their facial expressions look off, and the way the spraypaint moves is wrong because of the wind, and refuse to acknowledge the fact my car is black.
That`s not what you wrote though , you have even quoted me quoting you so your quote is still there to see .....
" Nothing you say has any merit whatsoever until you deal with the HUNDREDS of patients that were cared for by THOUSANDS of hospital employees, with several deaths and many amputations "
That ..... is ......ignorant .edit on 5-9-2013 by AthiestJesus because: (no reason given)
That's exactly what I wrote. If we have bombing victims then by necessity we have a bombing. So musings on things that look "strange" can not be evidence of no bombing when we have victims of a bombing. It's logic 101.
Originally posted by AthiestJesus
reply to post by OccamsRazor04
And back to your evidence
So you`re telling me that cupcakes and little baby jesus made jeff forget he`d just had his legs torn from his body ?
Are you a receptionist by any chance ?