Document Shows FBI/ICE Sets Up Users With Child Porn

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posted on Sep, 4 2013 @ 11:43 PM
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Document Shows FBI/ICE Sets Up Users With Child Porn


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Of course what am I trying to reveal here? A guy claiming to be a FBI agent has sent me this document over Torchat but I was able to verify this man to be a real government agent working for the FBI cyber crimes division working in conjunction with ICE.
This is one of the training notice or training document proposals on new methods the government will use to net child porn suspects. It doesn’t include much information so I suspect it is more of a draft document or proposal. It still reveals quite a lot with why people here and there are mysteriously arrested with child porn then quickly co
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posted on Sep, 4 2013 @ 11:43 PM
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Well, isn't that grand. Is that not the very definition of entrapment? They are planting hidden files on unsuspecting users machines.

This is not stuff people are actively searching for, or know exist. It may not pass muster with people that are very computer savvy, but honestly, how many computer users is that? I would suspect less than 10% of users, if that. These are the kind of underhanded tactics that our LEA are using? Sounds like corruption to me.


This method has been successful at deterring both child pornographers and copyright infringementand has been approved for official procedures under the guise that it be kept as classified information.


That is a snippet from the document itself. Lumping people infringing copyrights in with child pornographers. Lovely.

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posted on Sep, 4 2013 @ 11:56 PM
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A guy claiming to be a FBI agent has sent me this document over Torchat but I was able to verify this man to be a real government agent...


Right... lets just gloss over HOW you verified him and go straight to more accusations.

I would be interested if he REALLY verified this person and not just CLAIMED he verified him.



posted on Sep, 4 2013 @ 11:59 PM
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This is exactly what I've been trying to tell people!

My wife doesn't believe that the 32gb worth of video files mysteriously appeared on my hard drive overnight. I keep telling her that the FBI did it. Maybe now she'll drop the divorce.

Thanks OP



posted on Sep, 5 2013 @ 12:07 AM
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Originally posted by Xaphan
This is exactly what I've been trying to tell people!

My wife doesn't believe that the 32gb worth of video files mysteriously appeared on my hard drive overnight. I keep telling her that the FBI did it. Maybe now she'll drop the divorce.

Thanks OP


you had 32gb of Child Porn? or just video files?



posted on Sep, 5 2013 @ 12:14 AM
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Originally posted by Fisherr

Originally posted by Xaphan
This is exactly what I've been trying to tell people!

My wife doesn't believe that the 32gb worth of video files mysteriously appeared on my hard drive overnight. I keep telling her that the FBI did it. Maybe now she'll drop the divorce.

Thanks OP


you had 32gb of Child Porn? or just video files?



The problem is, now anyone that is brought to trial in a case like this will be able to sow the seed of doubt in the jury's mind.
If this can happen to anyone, how can it be proven that they did it? Multiple attempts to discredit may just make the whole point moot.



posted on Sep, 5 2013 @ 12:16 AM
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Is there a reason someone would want to do this to you?



posted on Sep, 5 2013 @ 12:23 AM
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Originally posted by Fisherr
you had 32gb of Child Porn? or just video files?


Originally posted by rockintitz
Is there a reason someone would want to do this to you?

lol it was just a joke people. Seriously.

IF THE NSA IS READING THIS, IT WAS JUST A JOKE



posted on Sep, 5 2013 @ 12:27 AM
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Lol I apologize for misunderstanding the "smirk-face"
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posted on Sep, 5 2013 @ 12:28 AM
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Anyone with a lawyer worth their salt should be able to sow seeds of doubt in any case involving "computer forensics" really. Anything can be planted on a computer with fake time stamps. Time stamps are so easy to forge, they should not be considered evidence of anything. My only advice really is to keep your computer securely encrypted with truecrypt, using the hidden OS method. Even that only goes so far though, if some LEA wants to get you on "something" a way will be found really. Unless you got millions to throw away on a power lawyer firm, you are screwed. That is the way our justice system seems to be. Every once in a while you get a jury that can see through BS, but it seems to be an anomaly, rather than the norm



posted on Sep, 5 2013 @ 12:29 AM
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Nice! Further on up the road...."While we were auditing your tax files, my associate discovered an encrypted folder which, of course we went into....Some of those images are truly...Well...Disgusting!...Mr. X, they're just children!"
Pan to a poorly lit character in a corner of the room who take two steps toward Mr. X, stops, pushes up his hat brim and says.
" Mr. X I'm Mr. Y from the NSA...This can all end here in this room if you want, we just need a little favor!"

Have I ever shared my overactive imagination with you people?



posted on Sep, 5 2013 @ 12:29 AM
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Seeing how the feds are using very questionable tactics to "catch terrorists", it does not seem to be that farfetched though.



posted on Sep, 5 2013 @ 12:41 AM
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Of course what you say is true. My point would be that with every case that emerges, the ability to deny involvement with files on ones own computer is easier and easier to deny. Plausibly.



posted on Sep, 5 2013 @ 01:49 AM
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I have always thought this to be possible. I remember about 2 or 3 years ago they showed a fusion center on the news and they panned to a computer monitor with someone working and casually mentioned how all of the dots on the map of the state were child porn actively on someones computer. What had me was the fact that there had to have been thousands if not more of these dots. My first thought was well why aren't they rounding these people up. Then the blackmail/frame up angle struck me. Makes perfect sense in that light. A more chilling thought is that gov agencies could be participating in creating these images and videos being thrown on the net for this time of operation and since the Franklin incident I wouldn't put anything past them.



posted on Sep, 5 2013 @ 12:20 PM
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The lengths that they will go to in order to catch regular movie pirates is disgusting, especially when Hollywood is having one of its most profitable years ever.
I download movies from one or two very trustworthy sites ONLY and if the FBI or NSA has infiltrated them then watch me shoot my middle finger at you and if you do manage to get past my VPN and proxy, good luck opening my TrueCrypt hard drive, fascist bastards.
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posted on Sep, 5 2013 @ 12:31 PM
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I always said, how can we trust LEA to uphold the law, when they break so many laws themselves to catch the law breakers. Selling drugs, masquerading as hookers, encouraging terrorism, etc etc. It's total BS.



posted on Sep, 5 2013 @ 12:33 PM
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Most of my downloads come from closed communities, but at the moment I am not too worried about getting busted for downloading some programs or tv shows. Not really something canadians have to worry about much at this time. Now planted CP hidden in #, that I do have to worry about if this tactic is the truth.



posted on Sep, 5 2013 @ 12:51 PM
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I dont understand how one can not see an extra file/video after downloading a movie and and if theres one included and its questionable then just delete it using a secure erasing program.
Now, if theyre embedding video of this stuff within the movie itself, then not only is that BS, it wont hold up in court.



posted on Sep, 5 2013 @ 12:57 PM
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I remember back in my kazaa days, people would "embed" crap in files all the time. Programs trojans and viruses of course, but there were times I downloaded what I thought was a movie, and would start out as the movie, and after ten minutes it would switch to a chick screwing a horse or pooping or some other nonesense. Thankfully torrenting started getting big soon after that "porn rickroll" crap started, where people could comment on the fakes.

I know there is ways to hide stuff in jpegs and even some kinds or word documents. So the hidden stuff could be simply hidden in a "readme" or nfo file. Or cover art or whatever.
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posted on Sep, 5 2013 @ 01:51 PM
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Damn if that's the case, there could be tons of people out there with child porn on their computer without even knowing it... A 12 year old girl trying to download free Justin Beiber songs or even just images could have something hidden. It's a crazy world we live in...





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