The Chessboard of World War III ( How Syrian events could unfold and China occupies USA)

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posted on Sep, 4 2013 @ 07:34 PM
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I came across this post whilst browsing the net, it is penned by Dave Hodges from the common sense show. I don't know this man or anything about his credibility but his post on the possible outcome of WW III following an attack of Syria makes startling reading including a plausible worst case scenario of an attack/ occupation from China on US soil via the south.



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I shall post a few examples of external text for those who do not have the time to read the full article.


If war breaks out in Syria the best possible outcome will be the fall of the Assad regime, approximately 2,000,000 innocent people will perish and the world will witness the installation of the Muslim Brotherhood as the new leaders in Syria. If this is all that happens as a result of Obama’s anticipated reckless actions, we should consider ourselves lucky. The worst-case scenario includes the entry of Israel, Russia, China and possibly India into the fight. Please note that all three of the four nations have abandoned the petrodollar in favor of a gold for oil scheme, and this fact will prove to be a prime motivator leading to the expansion of the Syrian war. This article not only details the pattern of the likely fall of Syria, but this article primarily centers on each country’s role in the coming war should the conflict expand beyond the Syrian borders.


Obamas Brother manages investments for the Muslim Brotherhood........Read On >>>>>


It is difficult for most Americans to fathom that an American president would actually seek to install the Muslim brotherhood as a puppet government on behalf of the bankers that control our government. However, that is exactly what we see in Libya and Egypt. And that is precisely what the Obama’s game plan consists of with regard to Syria and ultimately Iran. And if the facts are fully known, nobody should be surprised because Barack Obama‘s Kenyan half-brother, Malik Obama, manages investments for the Muslim Brotherhood.


I am trying not to post too much content but I really do feel that this post gives a very good insight into the very real possibilities that are facing all of us right now. Outcomes that could affect millions of people worldwide including you and I and our families and children too.


What If War Does Break Out? Based upon my insider contacts, I have constructed some possible spinoff events which could follow the aftermath of Obama’s launching a decisive military strike against Syria. This analysis is meant to demonstrate the danger and the volatility of the present situation. The players who will decide the outcome of the Syrian war, which could culminate with the outbreak of WWIII, are United States, Russia, China, Israeland possibly India as well as Syria and Iran.


The article also talks of Syrian, Russian, British, Israeli, and India's options amongst others and does indeed make for grim reading, more due to the very real possibilities as apposed to being along the lines of doom porn.

The Author describes how China could invade the US in far greater detail than below but this is not really the main focus of this post but more like one more piece of a domino effect.

On the surface, China does not appear to have a great amount of options in the Middle East should the US attack Syria as a necessary prelude to going into Iran. However, China may retaliate in other theaters of action. If Obama attacks Syria, I believe it is a given that China will make a move on Taiwan. I would also look for China to attack the southern underbelly of the United States. For those who lack detailed geopolitical awareness, this would seem like an outrageous statement. However, it is common knowledge that the Chinese are in control of the Panama Canal. These forces would form the main body of a Chinese invasion force going North. China would move through Central America like a hot knife through butter. And it is also likely that the point of the attack will come out of the Sierra Madre’s in Mexico. My good friend, the late ex-CIA operative Bill Pawelec, told me many times that it was common knowledge in certain circles of the intelligence community that the Chinese have a sizable force in the area and that the point of any attack would come from this region. Pawelec also told me that Arizona, Texas, New Mexico and Southern California would be overrun in less than a week.

I would also like to bring to your attention a reply to this article which was allegedly made by a Syrian woman which does give across very well her own perspective as a Syrian woman. I will post her complete response below despite its length as I really do think her reply should be read in its full content for the benefit of ATS readers.

Sir, I am Syrian and a mother. since about 2 years, this proxy war installed by the USA and her western, turkish and arab lackeys, is devastating my homeland and killing my people. I have lost several friends. Your mercenaries shot at me and I got wounded. Some day ago, my daughter, aged 15, said, it was better we’d die now rather than suffering the rest of our lifetime as she expects this war won’t end. What shall I say to her, at the eve of a huge war to come? That life can be nice, incase the greedy US-Imperialism would allow you to live? Can you really imagine how life is for a 15 years old teenager seeing bodies in the streets and destruction and displaced people and hearing the shells of the terrorists exploding and the cries of the wounded and the noise of grenades and shooting all day, 24/7????? Sir – with all due respect, in all your words I do not see any concern about the lives of syrian women, children and men which are threatened and taken away here by your mercenaries of al.Qaeda. Don’t we count? Are we worthless? And, please, Sir! do not name Assad that negatively, recognising that even your CIA had to admit (and reported it) that he has the utter loyalty of about 70 percent of the syrian people – how much support can Obama gain in the USA? So are we Syrians dumb to follow a ‘dictator’? No – we are united with our families, friends, our sons and husbands serving in our army to DEFEND our homeland. Every US-American would do the same if the USA was attacked. And we stand with our president as we realised he does his duty to defend his people. You do not need to be a fan of someone in order to be fair. Apart from that, I am optimistic that we Syrians already have won the war against you – by all evidence of high moral, dignity and the persistent will to defend our nation. We Syrians show the world that resistance against the Evil can work and in any case will help you to preserve your dignity. You may not know that Syrians, in their 7000 years old civilisation, experienced about 2000 years of occupation and colonization of their homeland by foreign powers, before the Syrians managed to free themselves from french occupation in 1946. You also may not know that this struggle for independence had been extremly costly on the side of the lives of people who died. But please just invest a minute to think about it as if all this would happen to you, your homeland, your family, your friends – what would you do? So, by telling you all this, I just want you to know that Syria is defending not only her homeland and her families but all the values that make her. If we Syrians loose our values, our history, our civilisation, we were dead. You can kill us all but you will never see us kneeling in front of you.
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posted on Sep, 4 2013 @ 07:37 PM
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What are your thoughts ATS?

Could we really be heading for WW III?

Could China overrun Arizona, Texas, New Mexico and Southern California in less than a week?

Seems like Russia and China could have a lot to gain here and others a lot to lose.

We regularly see posts with the WW III title and to be honest I often take little notice but could this moment in History be a whole new ball game?
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posted on Sep, 4 2013 @ 07:37 PM
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S n F, for you, good topic about how this is "assimilated" and processed, and the engine that "persuades" us to look at it in one way or another.

But might I suggest, they aren't really playing chess. I wish they were, for they would be so much more informed. They're simply playing Battleship, and who has the biggest "_______"
JMHO
Tetra50



posted on Sep, 4 2013 @ 08:26 PM
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Thank you for your s n f.
I agree that in many ways this is indeed a game of battleships but this battleship game appears to also smack of Russian Roulette.
Of course there are any number of possibilities of how these events may play out and all have deadly consequences if only for the innocent people of Syria who will no doubt be killed during any punishment that may be administered if Obama goes ahead. The sad thing is that if a strike is undertaken, there is a very strong possibility that more people will be killed by Obama than have so far been killed by Sarin.

I find it hard to believe that Obama is doing this simply to punish Syria, as the article states there is a far greater hidden agenda here that may cost the lives of so many.

Peace to you! :0)



posted on Sep, 4 2013 @ 08:37 PM
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In fact even as we speak, I have just read the following from the Daily mail

So far, the signs are not encouraging. Barack Obama has angrily cancelled a meeting with his Russian opposite number, while his administration cranks up the John Wayne rhetoric against opponents of military intervention.

Meanwhile, Mr Putin blusters that he may offer anti-missile technology to Iran, while Mikhail Gorbachev warns that Russian-American relations are at a ‘very alarming’ low.
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posted on Sep, 4 2013 @ 08:38 PM
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Originally posted by studio500
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Thank you for your s n f.
I agree that in many ways this is indeed a game of battleships but this battleship game appears to also smack of Russian Roulette.
Of course there are any number of possibilities of how these events may play out and all have deadly consequences if only for the innocent people of Syria who will no doubt be killed during any punishment that may be administered if Obama goes ahead. The sad thing is that if a strike is undertaken, there is a very strong possibility that more people will be killed by Obama than have so far been killed by Sarin.

I find it hard to believe that Obama is doing this simply to punish Syria, as the article states there is a far greater hidden agenda here that may cost the lives of so many.

Peace to you! :0)


What a truly great synopsis. and I mean that. That's the thing, right there. At the end of this "conflict," where our country claims (and I am assuming you are an American) to be defending the right of the people to live without being plagued by chemical weapons......we will kill more than we "free" from that possibility or even probability of that happening to them.......

Of course, there is a hidden agenda. And of course, anyone with half a brain, should seriously look at "how we got here," with Syria. I.E., who used those weapons, where did they get them, what was the focus and purpose behind it, as it seems to have solve nothing as to the "civil war" in Syria, so why would anyone have done that? This is a time, unfortunately, when someone should be asking salient, logical questions like that, and the time that, instead, you can bet no one who can be heard, will.........

And anyone wonders why smart people become alcoholics or drug addicts in this state of affairs? What good does it do for you to have half a mind and 3/4 of a conscience, and be asking the hard questions, and then try to sleep at night????

Just my opinion. It doesn't count for much, but I type on this webisite no matter if my "monitor" if monitoring me, because someone, for God's sake, should have sense enough to wonder these things.
Thanks for the thread, OP, and the chance to say that, before no telling what, and God help us, what happens next....
Sincerely,
Tetra50



posted on Sep, 4 2013 @ 08:45 PM
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I know here on ATS, we are preaching to the choir, but people need to see the reality of obama's "transformation of america" I believe this is planned to completely destroy america, and change us from a republic to communism, through conquest of the chinese. See the trans - america interstate they are planning from the port in mexico, through the US, up through Canada that they have been pushing for years. See the amount of land that the chinese have been buying up in america. Why did obama take the chinese leader from washington dc to Iowa? this year when he visited? To show him their new farm land and food production sites.

New World Order. One world communist rule - they can't bring the standard of living up to america's standards, so they will bring america's standard of living down to the third world.

And Depopulation - Agenda 21.

It would be so much easier to take a few of the traitors out of america, than millions of people off the face of the earth - for them, starting in Syria, but certainly not ending there.



posted on Sep, 4 2013 @ 08:50 PM
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Once again I agree with you completely, I only hope that despite what actions POTUS takes in this matter that the repercussions to civilians of all nations will be minimal.

I still wonder if the power of the people could actually prevent an all out war because sadly from what I have witnessed so far, there were more protests against invading Iraq and I'm sure that this instance has far greater chances of severe repercussions.

As stated in the original article which I believe to be well balanced


How serious are the Chinese and Russians at standing up to the imperialistic United States?

Considering that both Chinese President Hu and Major General Zhang Zhaozhong have threatened the United States with nuclear war if they invade either Iran or Syria, I would say that they are very serious.

So clearly, Russia isn't the only threat here but it does appear that Putin is at least trying to press for talks rather than action. Of course this could just be a delay tactic whilst Russian destroyers head for the Med as we speak.




posted on Sep, 4 2013 @ 08:50 PM
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Fox News tonight is replaying their 9/11 tribute on tv tonight after having those nauseating "hearings" on tv all day today - it's not Sept. 11th?

Beat the war drums - be patriotic - Bull #.



posted on Sep, 4 2013 @ 09:01 PM
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Originally posted by Happy1
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I know here on ATS, we are preaching to the choir, but people need to see the reality of obama's "transformation of america" I believe this is planned to completely destroy america, and change us from a republic to communism, through conquest of the chinese. See the trans - america interstate they are planning from the port in mexico, through the US, up through Canada that they have been pushing for years. See the amount of land that the chinese have been buying up in america. Why did obama take the chinese leader from washington dc to Iowa? this year when he visited? To show him their new farm land and food production sites.

New World Order. One world communist rule - they can't bring the standard of living up to america's standards, so they will bring america's standard of living down to the third world.

And Depopulation - Agenda 21.

It would be so much easier to take a few of the traitors out of america, than millions of people off the face of the earth - for them, starting in Syria, but certainly not ending there.


Yes, we have always been a skeptical bunch here on ATS but from what I have read so far in other related topics shows that at least we are challenging the governments actions this time like never before, perhaps because lives depend on it like never before.


In effect China is already on the doorstep with a big welcoming smile from Obama. In any other given scenario, if someone said to me that China would or even could successfully invade the American Homeland I would have laughed till I cried but in todays climate I am not so sure.

We all know that historically there is often a War after a big depression and History may well be repeating itself in our lifetime which is a grim but very real prospect.

Hodges, towards the end of his article also states, and I quote,
" Yes, you are reading this correctly, I believe that the US is supposed to lose the coming war2.
Which appears to fit in nicely with your synopsis.
Great input!



posted on Sep, 4 2013 @ 09:03 PM
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Originally posted by Happy1
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Fox News tonight is replaying their 9/11 tribute on tv tonight after having those nauseating "hearings" on tv all day today - it's not Sept. 11th?

Beat the war drums - be patriotic - Bull #.


Perhaps to regenerate those inner feelings of Patriotism. Only this time the people are wiser. (I hope
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posted on Sep, 4 2013 @ 09:09 PM
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Originally posted by studio500
In fact even as we speak, I have just read the following from the Daily mail

So far, the signs are not encouraging. Barack Obama has angrily cancelled a meeting with his Russian opposite number, while his administration cranks up the John Wayne rhetoric against opponents of military intervention.

Meanwhile, Mr Putin blusters that he may offer anti-missile technology to Iran, while Mikhail Gorbachev warns that Russian-American relations are at a ‘very alarming’ low.
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There is a thread here right now, titled, Why Do Chemical Weapons Matter? I suggest anyone interested in this thread and its ongoing outcoming, read my replies on that thread, to remember or truly think about what we are discussing here and what the "end" will truly be like.

I state this as much for the community here, as much as hoping the government analysts, such as they may be, truly DO read sites such as this. For, there will be no escaping the repercussions of the road we are headed down, and those who monitor sites like these, have families, women and men they love, and children, neighbors, etc........

Do you truly understand what this could mean. Russian and China? Look at a map, and see where these divisions take us, and then think about the potential weaponry involved.

In Reagan's era, their excuse for constantly building the nuclear arsenal was that it would DETER. It seems we have come far enough in terms of time and generations, that people have forgotten, completely, what a war involving these warheads truly means......or does no one care, because they look at Fukishima, and think, well, we're still alive, after all......

Get a friggin' grip. It won't be so slow, or so enigmatic or questionable as to how "press" spins it, believe me. The divisions distrubted here, globally, and what it represents weaponry-wise, is truly staggering and frightening.

no one, i repeat NO ONE, who cares for humanity, at all, should resist sounding that DEATH KNELL right now for what it represents.

Happy1: There will no longer by any need for Agenda 21, after such a concurrence and battle……
Respectfully,
Tetra



posted on Sep, 4 2013 @ 09:17 PM
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And so it begins


Barack Obama is to be given only 90 days by the US Senate to deal with Bashar al-Assad. The upper house’s foreign relations committee last night approved a resolution that permits the president to order a ‘limited and tailored’ military operation. But that mission should not exceed 90 days and nor could it involve any US troops on the ground for combat operations, they said.



posted on Sep, 4 2013 @ 09:28 PM
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This is a fantasy and has zero basis in the reality on the ground. Just how would the Chinese going to get to the US? How would they supply those troops? Where is the USAF and USN at? Are they being attacked by aliens? Why would Russia or China face nuclear destruction and complete economic collapse to defend a country they have not even bother to make the very basic diplomatic moves to protect. Where is the US Military in all this? Even at when Iraq and Afganistan were going on 90% of US forces were still in the US and that number is higher now. How are the Chinese going to invade with no air support? What the hell does the Suez canal now to small to fit modern warships have to with anything? How did Mexico and the US not notice a million starving Chinese soldiers hiding in Mexico? You people and wishing for WW3 gets real old. 70% of the worlds military spending come just from NATO and 50% of that is the US alone. China depends on a rich powerful United States for its own survival.



posted on Sep, 4 2013 @ 09:29 PM
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I couldn't find any validation in regards to the presence of Chinese forces in Mexico. I agree that they could (and it would make strategic sense, like saying that Russia would come from the North). As for Panama I also find no evidence for the claims beyond the defacto control and buildup of deep sea ports (around the world) and the proposal to build an alternative to the Panama canal in Nicaragua.



posted on Sep, 4 2013 @ 09:30 PM
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Originally posted by tetra50

Originally posted by studio500
In fact even as we speak, I have just read the following from the Daily mail

So far, the signs are not encouraging. Barack Obama has angrily cancelled a meeting with his Russian opposite number, while his administration cranks up the John Wayne rhetoric against opponents of military intervention.

Meanwhile, Mr Putin blusters that he may offer anti-missile technology to Iran, while Mikhail Gorbachev warns that Russian-American relations are at a ‘very alarming’ low.
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There is a thread here right now, titled, Why Do Chemical Weapons Matter? I suggest anyone interested in this thread and its ongoing outcoming, read my replies on that thread, to remember or truly think about what we are discussing here and what the "end" will truly be like.

I state this as much for the community here, as much as hoping the government analysts, such as they may be, truly DO read sites such as this. For, there will be no escaping the repercussions of the road we are headed down, and those who monitor sites like these, have families, women and men they love, and children, neighbors, etc........

Do you truly understand what this could mean. Russian and China? Look at a map, and see where these divisions take us, and then think about the potential weaponry involved.

In Reagan's era, their excuse for constantly building the nuclear arsenal was that it would DETER. It seems we have come far enough in terms of time and generations, that people have forgotten, completely, what a war involving these warheads truly means......or does no one care, because they look at Fukishima, and think, well, we're still alive, after all......

Get a friggin' grip. It won't be so slow, or so enigmatic or questionable as to how "press" spins it, believe me. The divisions distrubted here, globally, and what it represents weaponry-wise, is truly staggering and frightening.

no one, i repeat NO ONE, who cares for humanity, at all, should resist sounding that DEATH KNELL right now for what it represents.

Happy1: There will no longer by any need for Agenda 21, after such a concurrence and battle……
Respectfully,
Tetra

Tetra, I can only echo your sentiments and obvious depth of feeling of these possibly world changing events. I cannot understand myself why so many people seem to be just sitting back and taking little or no interest in such profound events that are so very real and dangerous to say the least.
This is no prediction thread, or what happens if a comet falls, or what if Aliens land, this is so very real and happening right now. Unfolding in front of our very eyes and yes we do need to get a grip and quick!

I will take a look at the thread as I have tried over the last few weeks to study and fully understand this whole conflict from varying perspectives which has helped a lot in understanding the motivation behind this debacle.
Thank you for sharing the link and your sentiments. I wish more people would echo your sentiments.
SnF



posted on Sep, 4 2013 @ 09:34 PM
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Are you aware of the chinese in south america? Why do you think they need more deep sea ports through nicaragua? Who are the russian, chinese, iranians in collusion with?

I'm not going to link you to anything - just do your own research - then you may learn something.



posted on Sep, 4 2013 @ 09:35 PM
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Seen better movies, then this scenario.




posted on Sep, 4 2013 @ 09:45 PM
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Originally posted by MrSpad
This is a fantasy and has zero basis in the reality on the ground. Just how would the Chinese going to get to the US? How would they supply those troops? Where is the USAF and USN at? Are they being attacked by aliens? Why would Russia or China face nuclear destruction and complete economic collapse to defend a country they have not even bother to make the very basic diplomatic moves to protect. Where is the US Military in all this? Even at when Iraq and Afganistan were going on 90% of US forces were still in the US and that number is higher now. How are the Chinese going to invade with no air support? What the hell does the Suez canal now to small to fit modern warships have to with anything? How did Mexico and the US not notice a million starving Chinese soldiers hiding in Mexico? You people and wishing for WW3 gets real old. 70% of the worlds military spending come just from NATO and 50% of that is the US alone. China depends on a rich powerful United States for its own survival.


Hi MrSpad, well that's one part of the discussion here. I don't know who the( "You people and wishing for WW3 gets real old". ) are because there's no one here doing that. This is simply a discussion regarding a number of possible scenarios, that's all. I also wouldn't be so sure that China depends on the US for survival either. China has a vast number of its own resources.

Could China successfully invade the US? I have no idea but I am sure that much would depend on US military commitments at the time. Plus of course if any tactical nuclear weapon was used to eradicate a possible invasion on US soil, many Americans would also perish too.

But these are just scenarios that have been written by a man with a lot more knowledge on this subject that myself.
Hodges does state that his "Unnamed sources" have confirmed that China could achieve this but those sources could be anyone.

Thanks for your perspective though and to be honest I would tend to agree with you that the US could repel such an attack if such a scenario ever occurred however obscure the probability.
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posted on Sep, 4 2013 @ 11:30 PM
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I will not unriddle your post, as I can be resumed it to "I have nothing for you, but I'm certain (but will not guarantee) that you will find anything that substantiates my position.".

So I continue to point out the simple fact that you allusion to a danger is mostly unfounded or at least as valid as anything in regards to any other nations acting in their self interest, but without any declared aggressive stance. If we look at patterns of behavior the Anglo-American have the top position in aggressive behavior and continued effort in remaining geopolitical leaders by force.

Any perceived infringement of China in South America or even Africa can be resumed to economic interests and because the US (and other Western powers) by its continual bad behavior or lack of interest in uplifting the conditions economic conditions of those nations have created a void, that as any void tends to promote fulfillment. China has now the industrial might to take the job of other nations in those arenas (even in Europe, China is taking major positions in commodities (electricity and communications), Russia was extremely abused after the collapse of the USSR, but luckily they had the natural resources to climb up and out of the pit they were thrown into, as a prime energy producer (oil and gas) recent events in world economy (capital/currency wars) have permitted it to rebuild and partially recoup from the dreaded position it found itself after the desegregation. The same can be said in part from any other of the BRIC nations that will from now on jokey for relevance in the world stage... especially since the West if crumbling economically and politically.
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