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Originally posted by johncarter
Rednecks? Yes, I ve noticed an invasion of rednecks on my thread the last 24 hours. Munsching on their kentucky fried chicken while typing the usual garbage, about what they think russia is capable of, or how ppl live there
The Admiral Kuznetsov heavy aircraft carrier will be ready to act as part of a Russian naval group in the Mediterranean by the end of 2013, Navy Commander Adm. Viktor Chirkov said.
Originally posted by ionwind
The Mediterranean could get even more crowded.
The biggest threat to NATO warships could be the Russian Tupolev Tu-22M Backfire anti-ship bombers.
These Mach 2 bombers have a range of 6,800 km (4,200 mi, 3,700 nmi) and could easily reach the Mediterranean from air bases in Russia. Each one can carry up to 3 enormous 12,800 lb AS-4 'Kitchen' missiles.
Imagine a squadron of 20 Backfire bombers moving at mach 2 launching 60 Kitchen missiles which move at mach 4.6. The crews of the target ship would not have much time to intercept 60 missiles closing at mach 4.6. The Backfire was in fact designed by the Russians to be aircraft carrier killers. I read that when the US Navy tested shooting these down, even if hit, the huge debris moving forward still caused considerable damage.
This reminds me of the Cuban blockade during the 1962 Cuban missile crisis. One miscalculation by anyone, and there could be a lot of fireworks.
Originally posted by Catacomb
This is quickly becoming another Cuban Missle Crisis. I believe that Russia is very serious about Syria. They have let things go in the past, but Syria is different. With their own people manning air defense stations, it only seems plausible that they would take a threat to attack such systems by the US, seriously.
My hope, is that we do not attack. I believe this is quickly getting out of hand...edit on 4-9-2013 by Catacomb because: (no reason given)
According to the Russian press agency, the Russian Navy continues stage-by-stage rotation of warships and support ships of the standing naval force in the Mediterranean. Having passed through the Bosporus and Dardanelles straits, the big landing ships will reach the designated area in the Mediterranean Sea on September 5 or 6 to start their mission under the command of the remote zone headquartered onboard the big anti-submarine ship of the Russian Pacific Fleet Admiral Panteleyev.
Currently, according to the Russian defence ministry, one of the key tasks of the Russian standing naval force in the Mediterranean is indepth monitoring over the air, underwater and surface situation in the zone of its deployment, adding that the rotation of Russian warships in the Mediterranean Sea would continue till mid-September.
Should Obama fail to understand the Russians or try a move against Assad, this is what could happen very easily and from a vast range of missile batteries of leathal S300 and S400 or even P-800 super fast and super leathal Yakhonts (the so called, "undelivered".. nodge..nodge..blink blink) :
A dozen of these P-800 Yakhonts could zero in on Nimitz and Truman, at speeds up to Mach 2.5 or around Mach 8.5 for later models. One missile can be launched every three seconds. The mobile control centre is able to manage up to 12 TELs simultaneously.
I would be very, very nervous if I were a US sailor on one of these ships right now, trying to start another war for the sake of our dear military industrial complex and their representatives in the White House and Senate.
edit on 4-9-2013 by johncarter because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ATSWATCHER
Remember how in 02 Russia flew over the U.S. Carrier Group, and FAXED in the pictures directly to the Carrier's Admiral's office,
No, care to provide a valid source for that claim?
Do I need to show Youtube video of Iran's videoing of the U.S. Carrier,
Please do.... Hey, I have pictures of a US carrier also, what is the significance of that?edit on 5-9-2013 by hellobruce because: (no reason given)
reply to post by ATSWATCHER
Yeah, sure, the Russian navy is unsinkable.
If the U.S. decides to invade Syria, Russia will do what they did when the US invaded Iraq, nothing,
The D.O.D. KNEW VERY-WELL THE WEAKNESS OF Iraq AND THATS WHY THE WENT IN, THIS TIME Syria HAS THE CAPABILITIES to fight back, just sit back and watch U.S. ship get blown up
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Just one of these things can let rip with two dozen nuclear tipped missiles!
God help us all if the lunatics in the White House trigger a full scale war
Originally posted by juspassinthru
Originally posted by hellobruce
Originally posted by johncarter
It is accompanied by Destroyers, Fregats and a couple of nuclear Typhoon class subs
So why would Russia be sending SSBN's - who do they plan to nuke?
Putin really wants a war by the sound of it!
Russia really wants to defend an ally from a rabid, dying AGGRESSOR nation. I don't no how anything could be more clear.
edit on 5-9-2013 by juspassinthru because: (no reason given)
Of course, because Russia has been known as the greater liberating country over the last century.. LOL. Eastern Europe would now like to bitch slap you for reality sake.
reply to post by johncarter
Besides, what does Russia really know about war anyway. The US is very experienced in real war scenarios.
Russian military spending has risen steadily in recent years. The current defence programme is the largest since the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991. The plan is to increase military spending from 2011 to 2020 by 11 percent each year, raising the proportion of modern weapons in the army to 70 percent by 2020. Most of the Russian army’s weapons date back to Soviet times.
Konstantin Makienko of CAST delivered a report on “State Armament Program 2011-2020.” The reforms have sought to increase the large-scale acquisition and procurement of modern military equipment. Most of this equipment is Russian-made, but some foreign systems are being imported from foreign countries to help keep the Russian defense industries, not wishing to lose their domestic market, competitive. In contrast, the large size of the State Armament Program (SAP) 2011-2020 means that Russian defense industries will now give priority to providing weapons to the Russian military rather than manufacturing systems for exports.
The most serious problems affect the radar and navigation systems, Izvestia says citing anonymous Russian air force pilots. Apparently, the glitches are not just due to software but there are also some hardware issues.
Maintaining the Su-34 also sounds like a nightmare for the ground crews–as each aircraft is different, and apparently a lot of the wiring is poorly soldered. The worst of the jets are the first two planes which were delivered in 2006–which are basically only there to decorate the airfield according to a senior Russian air force official Izvestia spoke to. But the three newest jets are a lot better, which is not unexpected.
As the Sukhoi rep points out in the story, almost every new aircraft has teething problems. It’s just part of life in the aviation business–early examples often have flaws. They’ll fix it, I’m sure. It’ll just take time and money.
Do you even know who the Russians are? If the USA f***s with Russia they will crush you just like the other petty-empires they've crushed in the past, ask Napoleon or Hitler!
The only reason Russia is there is because they want their slice of the pie, and will protect their interests after the the dust settles.
End of story.
and the wilful ignorance of a large section of your population will "USA! USA! USA!" us all right into WWIII.edit on 5-9-2013 by squarehead666 because: content/clarity