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Superstorm Sandy, once every 700 years?

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posted on Sep, 3 2013 @ 07:46 PM
A story that came out yesterday in the USA Today says that scientists doubt that we will ever see another storm like Superstorm Sandy in our lifetimes. Actually, probably not for another 700 years. That’s how unusual this storm was.

There was much debate here at ATS on how the storm could have taken a never-before-seen sharp turn into the Jersey coast and head west when the jet stream across the northern tier of the United States normally travels from West to East. The storm basically turned right into the jet stream.

Sandy had reached major hurricane strength near Cuba in October, before it headed north. Along with its 1,100 mile-wide width, one thing that made Sandy so unusual was the storm's track, marked by a sharp, sudden westward swerve into the East Coast. Most hurricanes instead skirt the coast on a northeasterly heading, often spinning out to sea once they reach Mid-Atlantic latitudes.

Superstorm Sandy steering winds look less likely in the future

I can remember myself questioning this storm path, but was met with much skepticism that it was anything unusual but a changing jet stream pattern on that particular day to create the perfect storm. Sandy was a major hurricane that was simply captured by a steering wind in the north that spun it on a course we’ve never seen before. The article in the USA Today suggests that climate specialists at the time blamed global warming and said it may be the new normal.

"A lot of speculation after Sandy was that its steering winds were some sort of 'new normal' caused by a warming climate," says climate scientist Elizabeth Barnes of Colorado State University in Fort Collins, Colo.

Now the “experts” are saying that it won’t be the new normal and that it’s highly unlikely we’ll see a storm take that sort of path again this century. It actually calls that storm path a once-in-700 year’s path. Here is the current explanation for it, from the article;

Previous estimates suggest that Sandy's westerly lurch into the New Jersey coast was a 1-in-700 year occurrence. It was driven by east-moving jet stream winds that were bottled up by two "blocking" weather patterns over the Atlantic Ocean. With the jet stream pushing Sandy out to sea blocked, westward-headed winds at lower altitudes essentially shoved Sandy ashore.

The conspiracy theorists ran rampant throughout ATS and elsewhere. My self included. I never for a second believed this to be some random storm, a normal occurrence. I still don’t buy it. I found it quite a coincidence that Obama was trailing to Romney prior to the storm and then surged 6 points in the polls in the days after, while Romney slipped. The voters claimed that Obama handled the storm well, simply by showing up and getting a supportive hand shake from Chris Christie. It was quite a blessing that a disaster on this level occurred just a week before the election. A blessing for Obama, anyways, but not much of one for the 117 people who died or the many thousands who lost their homes, businesses and possessions.

How could this have been a created storm for the sake of politics? That was a big question at the time, here at ATS and all over conspiracy land. How could Superstorm Sandy have been steered into the East Coast?

HAARP took the most heat for this. It’s been suggested that HAARP may be able to control the weather. Skeptics say that’s ridiculous. There are plenty of threads that discuss HAARP, simply do a search here at ATS and you’ll find them. You can read all about it.

But here’s a bit on the why from an article at

On Friday, InfoWars published a story arguing that Sandy "will undoubtedly produce widespread chaos and present an ideal opportunity for Obama to come off as a strong and decisive leader."
"Following the 'perfect storm,'" wrote Infowars' Kurt Nimmo, "the establishment media will naturally provide all the propaganda Obama needs to sweep the election on Tuesday, November 6, a week after the hurricane is projected to hit."


From the same article on why HAARP gets the blame;

In a piece on the nonprofit web site in March 2010, aerospace and computer engineer David Naiditch explained why he believes conspiracy theorists love to blame HAARP. "[It] is a gigantic, high-energy, Pentagon-funded gizmo located in the remote Alaskan wilderness that plays around with the Earth's ionosphere," he wrote, "but whose purpose seems deeply mysterious to the scientifically uninformed."

For me, I don’t know what HAARP can or cannot do, but I’m a believer that it’s not simply for some ionosphere research. IMO, they passed that stage a long time ago. Can it control the weather? I don’t know, but who’s to say it can’t? The so-called experts? How do we common folk know who is legit, or who is a government shrill?

Regardless whether it’s HAARP or some other way to manipulate the weather, I do believe it can be done and I believe it was done in this case. If the weather can’t be modified for specific purposes, such as in military tactics, then why did the United Nations have to ban any military or other hostile environmental modification techniques of the weather? This prohibition was signed and ratified by President Jimmy Carter in 1977.

We know the experts are trying real damn hard to control the weather, so much so that Congress proposed legislation about it.

2005 U.S. Senate Bill 517 and U.S. House Bill 2995 U.S. Senate Bill 517[25] and U.S. House Bill 2995[26] were two bills proposed in 2005 that would have expanded experimental weather modification, to establish a Weather Modification Operations and Research Board, and implemented a national weather modification policy. Neither were made into law. Former Texas State Senator John N. Leedom was the key lobbyist on behalf of the weather modification bills.
2007 U.S. Senate Bill 1807 & U.S. House Bill 3445 Senate Bill 1807 and House Bill 3445, identical bills introduced July 17, 2007, proposed to establish a Weather Mitigation Advisory and Research Board to fund weather modification research [27][28]


in2008, The Chinese made world headlines when they said they would control the weather by shooting down any rain clouds that approached Beijing during the opening ceremonies of the 2008 Olympics.


posted on Sep, 3 2013 @ 07:48 PM

That may sound extreme, but Chinese authorities didn't become such meteorological control freaks overnight. Chinese research into weather control dates back to 1958. Forty years later, the government-run Weather Modification Program launches thousands of specially designed rockets and artillery shells into the sky every year in an attempt to manipulate weather conditions.
Run by the Weather Modification Department, a division of the Chinese Academy of Meteorological Sciences, the program employs and trains 32,000 to 35,000 people across China, some of them farmers, who are paid to handle anti-aircraft guns and rocket launchers [source: Aiyar]. These heavy-duty weapons launch pellets containin¬g silver iodide into clouds. Silver iodide is thought to concentrate moisture and cause rain, a process known as cloud seeding. China has invested heavily in this technology, using more than 12,000 anti-aircraft guns and rocket launchers in addition to about 30 planes


Were the Chinese successful in preventing the rain?

The Beijing Weather Modification Office spent a lot of time researching how to prevent rain in the city during the Aug. 8 opening ceremony of the 2008 Summer Olympics. The government even guaranteed clear skies for the event -- a promise it managed to deliver on. The feat only took the launch of 1,104 rain dispersalrockets from 21 sites in the city to pull off

Read the above article and it describes several ways that the Chinese also seed the clouds in the northern part of their country to help increase the water supply and even to cool off on a hot summer day.

So, bottom line, weather can be controlled. I say to the skeptics, that after 50 years of government research into controlling the weather, it’s ridiculous to assume they can’t!

I also say to the skeptics that Superstorm Sandy is either one of the greatest conspiracy theories of all time, or it’s one of the greatest coincidences of all time…a 700-year storm on the eve of a presidential election in which the incumbent was on the verge of defeat, ultimately changing the outcome and shaping an entirely new future for our country and mankind.

Almost a year later and I’d say it’s a future that isn’t looking too bright!

posted on Sep, 3 2013 @ 08:30 PM
reply to post by Rezlooper

That is what they said about the perfect storn/Halloween Nor'easter of 1991.

But then again they were predicting a new ice age back then too.

If people believe everything they read maybe they should stop reading.

posted on Sep, 3 2013 @ 08:52 PM
reply to post by VforVendettea

Yes. That storm (the "Halloween storm") was as unusual as Sandy. After moving southwest from off Nova Scotia it increased to hurricane strength before looping around and heading back north.

That must have been artificial too because there's no such thing as a unusual storm that isn't.

posted on Sep, 3 2013 @ 09:46 PM
reply to post by Rezlooper

post by Rezlooper
So, bottom line, weather can be controlled. I say to the skeptics, that after 50 years of government research into controlling the weather, it’s ridiculous to assume they can’t!

I think they've been doing it for years.
Bumper harvest here...poor harvest there = Lots of money to be made.
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