reply to post by TarzanBeta
reply to post by TarzanBeta
Venerating that which is less than you is silly.
Would you venerate the grass, though it does not grow of its own accord, neither does it have any say in where it grows, neither if it gains
light, or water, or anything? And trees the same? Or even the sun the same
Yes. It all has a purpose for which we appreciate it. Why not venerate it for those reasons?
This is the same reason we should not be venerating ourselves; but we have a form of imagination that is beyond all other things in our
perceivable universe, and therefore are granted a form of godhood. But even that is gifted. Appreciation of nature is wonderful. Veneration of nature
is fantastic. There is a significant difference.
A profound respect and appreciation for nature is never wrong.
God has come down and said hello. But on your premise that He hasn't...
He has never come down and shaken hands with me, looked me in the eye, and said, "Hello, I'm God. Do you have a moment? I'd like to discuss some
things with you."
If that were to happen, I would sit and listen. But it hasn't.
But on your premise that He hasn't, then therefore, you do believe in evil.
As I have said before, I'm not sure I do. Don't tell me what I believe in - between the two of us, you're the least likely to know.
if you didn't believe in evil, then you wouldn't be angry at a God that you suppose has not come down to make things the way -you- in your
finite understanding believe they should be.
I'm not angry at any god. I am disappointed in the people who follow the same god you do. Watching them is like watching a bird who believes its wings
are tumors and walks around all the time doing penance for whatever it did to earn those "tumors". They want to be prisoners, slaves, drones. They
want to eschew responsibility of their fate. Worst of all, they hate being human. They can't stand it. They spend their whole lives in anticipation of
not being human anymore.
That's what I see.
You're not sure that you are in the position to understand;
Nuh uh, that's not what I said. I said: "Even if evil does exist, I'm not sure we are in the position to understand nearly as well as you seem to be
implying." Not me. We. All of us. Including you.
But if you aren't sure about your own position, you surely cannot judge the position of another. So saying, "we" in this case invalidates
I did not misspeak. I meant what I said. You cannot say you truly understand evil, for that would be arrogance, would it not?
If you don't believe in a God that created us, then you can't possibly claim to understand what humans were "meant" to be. That statement
defies the alternate stance of random generation and natural selection.
I can see what works and what doesn't. I can understand what follows the grain and what crosses it. God worship tends to elicit the sort of mentality
that crosses the grain. Random generation provides the soil from which natural selection operates.
You are being honest when you say that you desperately want to be proven wrong, because you're not trying very hard to be proven right.
And now you're just trolling.
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