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Originally posted by LexiconV
... show me the passages in the bible where your jesus condemns homosexuality.
Originally posted by Wertdagf
Yet throughout history religion and Christianity in America has tried to hold back social progress. Saying its the end of the world and satan is taking over... and then a few years down the road ITS WAS THEM ALL ALONG that made the social progress possible.... right...
Originally posted by WertdagfNo doubt in a few years Christians will have deluded themselves to the point where they believe THEY ended discrimination of sexual orientation.
Originally posted by Wertdagf"Their infants will be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses will be looted and their wives violated." - Isaiah 13:16
Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
There are several references to the proper way to obtain and treat slaves, about how slaves should obey their masters. they are in both the old and new testaments.
See a summary here
Here's the new testament ones:
Ephesians 6:5 NLT Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ.
Originally posted by Aloysius the GaulEph 6:9) And masters, treat your slaves in the same way. Do not threaten them, since you know that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no favouritism with him. (See also Ephesians 6:7-8)
Coll 4:1 Masters, provide your slaves with what is right and fair, because you know that you also have a Master in heaven.
Originally posted by Darth_Prime
Since a topic regarding Homosexuality has once again gone the way of Religion,
Originally posted by Cinrad
It was about a prime minister alluding to Aristotle on slavery and saying it was the Bible.
"Because St Paul said in the New Testament, 'slaves be obedient to your masters'. And, therefore, we should have all fought for the Confederacy in the US war. I mean, for goodness sake, the human condition and social conditions change."
reply to post by LexiconV
Anyway, why would anyone care what Jesus thinks if Jesus is not their lord and saviour?
Rudd says he is a Christian. Shows how much of a slime ball this guy really is. Just a few hours before he was addressing a webcast sponsored by Australian Christian Lobby asking Christians for their vote then he totally disregards the words of his saviour and lord with an allusion to Aristotle. That's right, not the Bible but Aristotle believed that slavery is a natural condition. The Bible is against slavery.
reply to post by arpgme
The rules of marriage should be enforced. The country's law says that marriage is between a man and a woman. That is the rule.
So Rudd's so called clever retort shows he just another christian atheist, as is probably the pastor he is debating.
Well, mate, if I was going to have that view, the Bible also says that slavery is a natural condition, Because St Paul said in the New Testament, 'slaves be obedient to your masters'. And, therefore, we should have all fought for the Confederacy in the US war. I mean, for goodness sake, the human condition and social conditions change.