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Dude! Where's my party?

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posted on Nov, 12 2004 @ 01:53 PM
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im a republican and im wondering where has my party gone? howd the neo-cons hijack it? no i dont think voting liberal will change anything but dude wheres my party? bringing religion into governmnet? im a relgious man but i believe religion has no place in the legislature!



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[edit on 14-11-2004 by pantha]




posted on Nov, 12 2004 @ 03:00 PM
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Oh man, I thought there was gonna be a celebration party. Bait and switch!




posted on Nov, 12 2004 @ 03:15 PM
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Originally posted by KrazyIvan
im a republican and im wondering where has my party gone? howd the neo-cons hijack it? no i dont think voting liberal will change anything but dude wheres my party? bringing religion into governmnet? im a relgious man but i believe religion has no place in the legislature!


DUDE! WHERE THE # IS MY PARTY!??


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posted on Nov, 14 2004 @ 12:18 PM
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Originally posted by KrazyIvan
im a republican and im wondering where has my party gone? howd the neo-cons hijack it? no i dont think voting liberal will change anything but dude wheres my party? bringing religion into governmnet? im a relgious man but i believe religion has no place in the legislature!


Dude the Republicans won! It is the democrats that are disappearing, with their hate.

I'm proud to be a Christian, I'm also proud to be a Republican!

Democrats hate...that is why they lost.

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posted on Nov, 14 2004 @ 12:50 PM
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The Republican Party is pretty much dead. Win/lose, it really makes no difference.

I'd be surprised if the Republicans become more reasonable in the future. I think the win will further exasorbate the problem.

More and more, Republicans are becoming disenfranchised with their party. The big two can only represent so many people before they start treading on their own people (been there already).

Nothing will change from the inside of the party, you're only hope is to go with the Libertarians until the Republicans pull their heads out of their asses.

Free market, small government?

HA!

[edit on 14-11-2004 by KrazyJethro]



posted on Nov, 14 2004 @ 01:21 PM
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Originally posted by KrazyJethro
The Republican Party is pretty much dead. Win/lose, it really makes no difference.


[edit on 14-11-2004 by KrazyJethro]


Winners live on, losers go away.

Think about how many 1st time voters, who voted for Kerry feel.

I bet their hearts are so broken, they will never vote again.

I have actually heard this rhetoric, and no I'm not going to provide a link.

The only way democrats get elected is to act conservative. Republicans get elected by supporting conservative views.



posted on Nov, 14 2004 @ 01:29 PM
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Carseller- th democrats hate and that's why they lost?

Republicans hate just as much.

Be proud of your party, and be proud of your religion too. However, they have no place to be together.



posted on Nov, 14 2004 @ 01:42 PM
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I really don't think they do.

Democrats did not support Kerry, they hated Bush.

Michael Moore and his movie promoted hate...helped Bush.

CBS promoted forged documents to get rid of Bush.

Rock "Stars" held concerts and sold CD's to get rid of Bush.

Move-On.org with the help of Billionaire George Soros wanted Bush removed.

This was the type of hate that energized the Republican Base.

So I'll say it again...

The democrats ran on hate and it got them nowhere.

Well on second thought maybe Republicans do hate...they hate the hate.



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posted on Nov, 14 2004 @ 06:29 PM
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Originally posted by Carseller4

Winners live on, losers go away.

Think about how many 1st time voters, who voted for Kerry feel.

I bet their hearts are so broken, they will never vote again.

I have actually heard this rhetoric, and no I'm not going to provide a link.

The only way democrats get elected is to act conservative. Republicans get elected by supporting conservative views.


Why bother quoting me if you have no intention of addressing anything I bring up.

Is this a responce to what I wrote, or more Freeperware?



posted on Nov, 14 2004 @ 06:34 PM
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Good post, Krazyivan. Big government, big spending, open borders, big medicare expansion: oh my! Why doesn't the left love the GOP? One would think.

It's certainly not the same GOP led my Reagan in the 80's and Newt in the 90's.



posted on Nov, 14 2004 @ 06:47 PM
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Originally posted by KrazyIvan
im a republican and im wondering where has my party gone


Its called the Libertarian party now. We are the ONLY party for smaller government



posted on Nov, 14 2004 @ 06:48 PM
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Originally posted by KrazyJethro

Originally posted by Carseller4

Winners live on, losers go away.

Think about how many 1st time voters, who voted for Kerry feel.

I bet their hearts are so broken, they will never vote again.

I have actually heard this rhetoric, and no I'm not going to provide a link.

The only way democrats get elected is to act conservative. Republicans get elected by supporting conservative views.


Why bother quoting me if you have no intention of addressing anything I bring up.

Is this a responce to what I wrote, or more Freeperware?


I answered your response just fine, and I even spelled response right too.

Republicans just had one of their biggest victories ever, yet you call the party pretty much dead.

Keep believing that and you will ensure more Republican victories in the future.



posted on Nov, 14 2004 @ 06:49 PM
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Originally posted by KrazyIvan
im a republican and im wondering where has my party gone? howd the neo-cons hijack it? no i dont think voting liberal will change anything but dude wheres my party? bringing religion into governmnet? im a relgious man but i believe religion has no place in the legislature.


We totally tried to tell you. Didn't you get the memo?

Still, Bob Jones thanks you for opposing the liberals, who incidentally hate christ and everything he stands for.



posted on Nov, 14 2004 @ 07:10 PM
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Originally posted by Carseller4
I answered your response just fine, and I even spelled response right too.

Republicans just had one of their biggest victories ever, yet you call the party pretty much dead.

Keep believing that and you will ensure more Republican victories in the future.


If you want to call it a victory fine, but beating a serious socialist like Kerry all wrapped up in "moderate" clothing shouldn't have been too hard in the first place.

So why was it so hard for us not to sweep them? Because there are big problems in the Republican Party.

We are "fighting" the socialism and communism with what? We used to fight it with capitalism. That free market and innovation took us all the way to the top.

I think we need to get back to basics, especially with regards to the federal government (which has gotten a bit out of hand).

Why are we not looking into constructive ways to get rid of Social programs, at the very least away from the federal government.

That's what we used to want.

If we did away with all social programs, and the IRS, we would have every working American find 30+% back each month.



posted on Nov, 14 2004 @ 07:12 PM
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Originally posted by Nerdling

Originally posted by KrazyIvan
im a republican and im wondering where has my party gone? howd the neo-cons hijack it? no i dont think voting liberal will change anything but dude wheres my party? bringing religion into governmnet? im a relgious man but i believe religion has no place in the legislature.


We totally tried to tell you. Didn't you get the memo?

Still, Bob Jones thanks you for opposing the liberals, who incidentally hate christ and everything he stands for.


Whoooooo yeah! Did you see my thread? Its called "Meet the Press: Liberals hate Jesus"

Oh yeah!



posted on Nov, 14 2004 @ 07:44 PM
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Originally posted by KrazyJethro

Originally posted by Carseller4
I answered your response just fine, and I even spelled response right too.

Republicans just had one of their biggest victories ever, yet you call the party pretty much dead.

Keep believing that and you will ensure more Republican victories in the future.


If you want to call it a victory fine, but beating a serious socialist like Kerry all wrapped up in "moderate" clothing shouldn't have been too hard in the first place.

So why was it so hard for us not to sweep them? Because there are big problems in the Republican Party.

We are "fighting" the socialism and communism with what? We used to fight it with capitalism. That free market and innovation took us all the way to the top.

I think we need to get back to basics, especially with regards to the federal government (which has gotten a bit out of hand).

Why are we not looking into constructive ways to get rid of Social programs, at the very least away from the federal government.

That's what we used to want.

If we did away with all social programs, and the IRS, we would have every working American find 30+% back each month.



It wasn't just a victory over Kerry, who in my opinion was a sacraficial lamb.

It was a victory over Michael Moore, hollywood, rockers, the media.

That was alot to overcome, but to the democrats defense, they made it a race. Good thing democrats had no one to vote for. Their votes were against Bush not for Kerry.

Protecting the USA against terrorism, which is a real threat, costs big time. Now that we have everything in place. We can concentrate on tax cuts, partially privatizing Social Security and simplifying the tax code.

Spending cuts won't happen with any effect until we have a fillibuster proof senate. That is likely to happen in 2006.

The brightest days of the Republican Party are to come. They still stand for smaller government, and more power to individuals. Libertarians will have a choice next time.



posted on Nov, 14 2004 @ 07:50 PM
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Originally posted by Carseller4
The brightest days of the Republican Party are to come. They still stand for smaller government, and more power to individuals. Libertarians will have a choice next time.


Can you tell me ONE TIME in history that the Republicans reduced the size of government?

Even during Reagons term government grew, at even a quicker pace than der Clinton, if memory serves me correct.

Government will shrink when Republicans realize they are being duped and come over to a party that DOES stand for smaller government (Libertarians)

At least with them controling every part of government they will run out of excuses for not doing it

[edit on 14-11-2004 by Amuk]



posted on Nov, 14 2004 @ 08:29 PM
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That's my point, the Republican party has become a narrow platform of global politics and social issues (not including social programs).

This became a battle of Gay rights, Iraq, Afghanistan, Abortion, and Christianity.

This has almost nothing to do with the internal workings of the government, and they rarely ask for our opinion anyway.

Tax cuts are real small potatoes when it comes to spending and taxation overall (which is way too high).



posted on Nov, 14 2004 @ 08:38 PM
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Originally posted by KrazyJethro
Tax cuts are real small potatoes when it comes to spending and taxation overall (which is way too high).


Exactly.

Tax cuts, while are a step in the right direction, are merely a side show to distract form ever increasing government, not to even mention stuff like the Patriot act.



posted on Nov, 15 2004 @ 08:59 PM
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Originally posted by Amuk

Originally posted by Carseller4
The brightest days of the Republican Party are to come. They still stand for smaller government, and more power to individuals. Libertarians will have a choice next time.


Can you tell me ONE TIME in history that the Republicans reduced the size of government?

Even during Reagons term government grew, at even a quicker pace than der Clinton, if memory serves me correct.

Government will shrink when Republicans realize they are being duped and come over to a party that DOES stand for smaller government (Libertarians)

At least with them controling every part of government they will run out of excuses for not doing it

[edit on 14-11-2004 by Amuk]


All spending starts in the House of Representatives

Don't blame Reagan. All of his budgets where declared DOA (Dead on Arrival) by Tip O'neil, the Democrat's leader in the House. Reagen quadrupled revenue to the government by lowering taxes. Unfortunately Democrats controlled the House and Senate and spent it as fast as it came in. All spending starts in the House of Representatives.

Coincidentally, Clinton had a Republican controlled House and Senate 6 of the 8 years he was in office. Once again all spending starts in the House of Representatives.

Bush's inherited a recession, and we were attacked on 9/11. He was only in office 8 months when this happened. Security costs money. Now that we got a handle on the situation, I feel the economy will come on strong and further tax cuts will put us back on track. Because all spending starts in the House of Representatives, which is now Republican controlled.




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