reply to post by truejew
Water baptism is no more a work than repentance and receiving the Holy Spirit. It is God alone who remits sin by His grace through our faith in being
water baptized. When asked, "what shall we do?", Peter said, "repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of
sins...".(Acts2:38) Peter did not say, "repent" and "if you want to get baptized also that would be nice". Plus Jesus said that we must be born
again of the water and the Spirit to enter Heaven (John 3:3-5) and he that believeth and is baptized shall be saved (Mark 16:16). Peter said, "The
like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us..." (1 Peter 3:21).
Okay, I want to start off by saying that if you believe water baptism is required for salvation then you are calling Jesus himself a liar.
Therefore they said to Him, “What shall we do, so that we may work the works of God?” 29 Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of
God, that you believe in Him whom He has sent.”
Here is why you are confused friend Jesus is the Baptist in today's time.
John was clothed with camel’s hair and wore a leather belt around his waist, and his diet was locusts and wild honey. 7 And he was preaching, and
saying, “After me One is coming who is mightier than I, and I am not fit to stoop down and untie the thong of His sandals. 8 I baptized you with
water; but He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit.”
And as I began to speak, the Holy Spirit fell upon them just as He did upon us at the beginning. 16 And I remembered the word of the Lord, how He used
to say, ‘John baptized with water, but you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit.’ 17 Therefore if God gave to them the same gift as He gave to us
also after believing in the Lord Jesus Christ, who was I that I could stand in God’s way?”
In acts 1 Jesus himself confirms he baptizes not with water but the Holy Spirit.
Gathering them together, He commanded them not to leave Jerusalem, but to wait for [e]what the Father had promised, “Which,” He said, “you heard
of from Me; 5 for John baptized with water, but you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now.”
Now lets look at the beginning of 1 Peter 3:21(one of the verses you quoted)
"and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also"
Water baptism is symbolic and not required for salvation. The baptism that now saves us is the baptism of the Holy Spirit, and is bestowed by Jesus.
You are misinterpreting the subject of John 3:3-5. The subject is being born again, not baptism. Birth of water is our first birth our physical birth,
and when we are born again we are born of the Spirit.
The thief on the cross did not die under the New Covenant. He died under the law and before baptism in the name of Jesus Christ.
The law cannot save.
10 The law is only a shadow of the good things that are coming—not the realities themselves. For this reason it can never, by the same sacrifices
repeated endlessly year after year, make perfect those who draw near to worship. 2 Otherwise, would they not have stopped being offered? For the
worshipers would have been cleansed once for all, and would no longer have felt guilty for their sins. 3 But those sacrifices are an annual reminder
of sins. 4 It is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins.
We who are in Jesus Christ are new creatures. We are not bound by sin. While sin is still a part of your nature, it is no longer a part of ours. We
may still make a mistake once in awhile, but it is a mistake and not due to a sin nature or out of premeditation.
1 John 1
If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to
forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His word is not in us.
You are deceiving yourself friend. I hope this opened your eyes.